Clevo X580 TBA at CES 2025 - 18", 4+4 drives and memory, 2xTB5

[1610ftw]

46 minutes ago, SACbomber said:

Review for this thing is out: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Medion-Erazer-Beast-18-X1-laptop-review-How-does-the-RTX-5080-perform-in-the-gaming-giant.1022307.0.html

 

Disappointing Cinebench R23 score of 31.5K. That XMG Neo 16/Tongfang with identical 275HX processor nearly hit 41K.

 

Yes, saw that too, pathetic. The pictures also tell the story of a rather bad Tongfang imitation with a cheap looking case. Severe lack of judgement on behalf of Medion coupled with a price that does not at all reflect the subpar performance.

[the jg89]

Hey @win32asmguy

 

I noticed that the ssd area has writing like pcie 4.0 pad = pink on the motherboard

I got a bunch of thermal pads to use for the ssds that look like they fit there, if I use them there

will it affect the motherboard?

 

also how are the temps on the ssd? just wondering

also I'm confused on which thermal pads to use since the metal plates on the bottom cover are different heights.

[win32asmguy]

7 hours ago, the jg89 said:

Hey @win32asmguy

 

I noticed that the ssd area has writing like pcie 4.0 pad = pink on the motherboard

I got a bunch of thermal pads to use for the ssds that look like they fit there, if I use them there

will it affect the motherboard?

 

also how are the temps on the ssd? just wondering

also I'm confused on which thermal pads to use since the metal plates on the bottom cover are different heights.

 

There are different height pads depending on the slot. Always check for contact pressure on the pad in case the z-height of your SSD is different than the OEM drive.

 

I did not really test drive temperatures in mine. It would not have been relevant data as I only use one drive which is not going to generate as much radiant heat as using four drives would.

[1610ftw]

On 5/23/2025 at 6:30 AM, the jg89 said:

Hey @win32asmguy

 

I noticed that the ssd area has writing like pcie 4.0 pad = pink on the motherboard

I got a bunch of thermal pads to use for the ssds that look like they fit there, if I use them there

will it affect the motherboard?

 

also how are the temps on the ssd? just wondering

also I'm confused on which thermal pads to use since the metal plates on the bottom cover are different heights.

 

The SSDs will heat up the motherboard to some degree and I have long wondered  how much of an issue that would be. MSI and Clevo used to have their own self contained area with an array of up to 3 NVME SSDs some time ago but since then I have only seen the provision for cooling pads that connect to the mainboard.

 

Does that mean it is safe? I would be a little bit sceptical if we are talking about writing terabytes to an SSD regularly but for  everyday use it is probably fine. As a rule of thumb I try to avoid temperatures above 75C when transferring big amounts of data while shooting for regular temps in the low 60s or preferably less - quite high but such can be the realities in laptops.

 

You can get HD Sentinel to check temps for yourself in the task bar and other parameters, too. It also warns you of possible failures. I have used the family license for years and highly recommend it, a test version is provided for free:

Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring

 

[the jg89]

Dumb question but how do you undervolt this laptop? I know you're supposed to use the control centre program for that but I want to ask first before touching anything ^_^'

[win32asmguy]

4 hours ago, the jg89 said:

Dumb question but how do you undervolt this laptop? I know you're supposed to use the control centre program for that but I want to ask first before touching anything ^_^'

 

On the X580 I purchased from Sager undervolting protection was enabled and the efi setup variables were write-locked.

[1610ftw]

11 hours ago, the jg89 said:

Dumb question but how do you undervolt this laptop? I know you're supposed to use the control centre program for that but I want to ask first before touching anything ^_^'

 

Cannot currently be undervolted but from what I have gathered undervolting would not help you that much. In the thread about the new MSI Titan @SACbomber reported between -30 and -50mV which is pretty low so you would get much less of a performance bump via undervolting compared to last gen CPUs that for me were all undervolting in excess of -100mV.

 

[the jg89]

I only ask because the cpu fans were loud as f**k when I was testing the games out, even at 70C they were pretty loud.

Thankfully this was remedied when I took out the heatsink and used noctua h2 thermal paste on there,much better results now but jesus there were a bijillion screws I had to take out to get to the gpu and cpu lol.

 

[br2]

Well, 275Hx is a fraction of a second slower than 13980Hx in compiling a system. Moore's law ain't what it used to be...

What happened to Sac Bomber and his Titan thread?

[1610ftw]

2 hours ago, br2 said:

Well, 275Hx is a fraction of a second slower than 13980Hx in compiling a system. Moore's law ain't what it used to be...

What happened to Sac Bomber and his Titan thread?

 

Did you get the X580?

Looks like the SACbomber account is gone - that is unusual!

[br2]

19 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

Did you get the X580?

Looks like the SACbomber account is gone - that is unusual!

Yeah, talked about it with him and @win32asmguy in his thread, there was some good stuff in there.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[1610ftw]

On 5/28/2025 at 12:23 PM, the jg89 said:

I only ask because the cpu fans were loud as f**k when I was testing the games out, even at 70C they were pretty loud.

Thankfully this was remedied when I took out the heatsink and used noctua h2 thermal paste on there,much better results now but jesus there were a bijillion screws I had to take out to get to the gpu and cpu lol.

 

 

Sorry, somehow did not see this post. Looks like yours did not have PTM7950 then! 

 

Haha, taking off the heatsink can be bad as you have to not only take off the screws for CPU and GPU but also for the fans 🙂

 

Have you tried to play around with the Clevo Control Center fan settings? Usually you can use it to tame the fans to a degree although you have to keep an eye on temps.

 

I usually like to have a curve that keeps noise in check up to ca. 80C on the CPU and 70C on the GPU but with a unified heat sink is it more difficult to allow the CPU to get hotter than the GPU, especially when both are under load.

[win32asmguy]

4 hours ago, br2 said:

Well, 275Hx is a fraction of a second slower than 13980Hx in compiling a system. Moore's law ain't what it used to be...

What happened to Sac Bomber and his Titan thread?

 

To me its more about the feature set than performance for this generation. It is the first where I can have a professional looking chassis and build quality, iGPU video outputs, but still have max wattage CPU and GPU.

 

Often I find that one model offers great CPU performance, another offers great GPU performance, another has nice build quality and aesthetics, but rarely does any have it all, especially with tuning possible and acceptable fan noise.

 

Not sure about SAC Bomber, but maybe if he no longer has an account then the associated threads he started get removed as well.

[br2]

9 minutes ago, win32asmguy said:

To me its more about the feature set than performance for this generation. ...

 

Not sure about SAC Bomber, but maybe if he no longer has an account then the associated threads he started get removed as well.

Yeah, I pretty much expected it to be like the 14's, thot i'd get some bump from a 13. 🫤

 

Should just have some default thread owner instead of losing the data. 

[1610ftw]

18 hours ago, br2 said:

Yeah, I pretty much expected it to be like the 14's, thot i'd get some bump from a 13. 🫤

 

Did you try limiting max power uptake? That could help with the 275HX.

Hopefully undervolting will be available soon - the 13th and 14th gen needed it more but it should still save you up to 10% power on the CPU and either allow you to run cooler or with more performance.

 

18 hours ago, br2 said:

Should just have some default thread owner instead of losing the data. 

 

Agreed, also all his other posts are gone like in this thread.

 

@Reciever can you elaborate on why we cannot see any of the posts of SACBomber any more? I would have thought that as soon as somebody posts here he would agree for his posts and threads to stay even when he leaves but apparently this isn't the case?

[br2]

10 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

Did you try limiting max power uptake? That could help with the 275HX.

Not really complaining, i'm happy enough. I'll check that out.