Meaker Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I agree with Derbauer on this one, same node, equivalent cost to performance increase. It's not a new generation so far. 1 1 1 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturnotaku Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 HUB called it a 4090 Ti, and that's the perfect descriptor. 1 1 1 Desktop: Ryzen 5 5600X3D | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4070 Super | 4 TB SSD | Windows 11 Gigabyte Aorus 16X: Core i7-14650HX | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4070 | 2 TB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 3 Gaming: Ryzen 7 6800H | 16 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 3050 | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro: Ryzen 5 5600U | 16 GB RAM | Radeon Graphics | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 coupled with the insane price increase we can already see enthusiasts jumping ship. i guess were finally hitting an upper limit of what highend gamers are willing to pay for halo gpus 😄 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in RAID 10 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj92 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: coupled with the insane price increase we can already see enthusiasts jumping ship. i guess were finally hitting an upper limit of what highend gamers are willing to pay for halo gpus 😄 Titan V from 2017 says hi 😁 While it wasn't a "gaming" card. Many "high end gamers" also bought it. I actually have one, but I didn't buy it until 2020 I think. 3070 level performance in raster, it wasn't a bad investment at the time. can't say same thing about 5090 lol 3 Alienware m18 : Intel Core i9 13900HX @ 5.0Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080 | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ Alienware M18x R2 : Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 3080 | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO Alienware 18 : Intel Core i7 4930MX @ 4.5Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 5000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 NVMe More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (RTX 5000) BEAST Server: Intel Xeon W7-3465X 28 P-Cores | nVidia RTX Titan | 128GB RDIMM | Intel Optane P5800X CS Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CSStudiosYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Meaker said: I agree with Derbauer on this one, same node, equivalent cost to performance increase. It's not a new generation so far. 39 minutes ago, saturnotaku said: HUB called it a 4090 Ti, and that's the perfect descriptor. No argument from me on this one. But based on 3080->3080ti and 4080->4080 Super, the 5090 is definitely more than a TI or Super but not worthy of a new generation. Let's call it the 4090TI Super..... This means 6000 series should be a true monster with new architecture and another node shrink. 1 Electrosoft Alpha: SP109 14900KS 59/46/50 | Asrock Z790i Lightning | Nvidia RTX 5080 FE| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Ellectrosoft Beta: Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, electrosoft said: No argument from me on this one. But based on 3080->3080ti and 4080->4080 Super, the 5090 is definitely more than a TI or Super but not worthy of a new generation. Let's call it the 4090TI Super..... This means 6000 series should be a true monster with new architecture and another node shrink. sooo basically, what it boils down to me to is this: - i already got the budget, so might as well try to get my hands on one - 4090 pricing will be nice n stable for a while with such a huge gap between 5090 and 5080, so ill get a good chunk of my money back - in many games im interested in, the 5090 pushes the FPS "just over the edge" into playable territory without having to use excessive upscaling (want to avoid that as much as possible, DLSS quality worst case, no FG for me) - highly interested in the 50-100% uplift for transcoding videos, thatll give me a tangible increase in every-day productivity for typical workloads of mine 🙂 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in RAID 10 / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj92 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I think nVidia's 5000 series would have been much better if they were on 3nm, but being on the same exact node, it's quite hard to get more performance without skyrocketing power. If nVidia had released the 4090Ti or Titan (full ad102 die) then the 5090 would have probably been only 15-20% faster, making it look even worse. I'd still like a 5090 for it's multiple decode/encode engines or at least a 5080. That's actually one of the bigger upgrades for content creation or even something like a Plex server. Before they were limited to Quadro to have 3 video engines. 2 1 Alienware m18 : Intel Core i9 13900HX @ 5.0Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080 | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ Alienware M18x R2 : Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 3080 | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO Alienware 18 : Intel Core i7 4930MX @ 4.5Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 5000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 NVMe More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (RTX 5000) BEAST Server: Intel Xeon W7-3465X 28 P-Cores | nVidia RTX Titan | 128GB RDIMM | Intel Optane P5800X CS Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CSStudiosYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturnotaku Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/23/2025 at 4:38 PM, jaybee83 said: sooo basically, what it boils down to me to is this: - i already got the budget, so might as well try to get my hands on one - 4090 pricing will be nice n stable for a while with such a huge gap between 5090 and 5080, so ill get a good chunk of my money back - in many games im interested in, the 5090 pushes the FPS "just over the edge" into playable territory without having to use excessive upscaling (want to avoid that as much as possible, DLSS quality worst case, no FG for me) - highly interested in the 50-100% uplift for transcoding videos, thatll give me a tangible increase in every-day productivity for typical workloads of mine 🙂 HMU if you're going to sell your 4090. That's the way I think I'll go when I eventually undergo a complete platform upgrade, probably later this year with a Core Ultra 300 series. 2 Desktop: Ryzen 5 5600X3D | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4070 Super | 4 TB SSD | Windows 11 Gigabyte Aorus 16X: Core i7-14650HX | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4070 | 2 TB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 3 Gaming: Ryzen 7 6800H | 16 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 3050 | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro: Ryzen 5 5600U | 16 GB RAM | Radeon Graphics | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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