Lenovo Legion 7 2022 announced

[saturnotaku]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/c/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-7-series

 

With the announcement today of Intel's new 55W HX CPUs, Lenovo completed the refresh of the Legion product line with the 7 Gen 7. Both Intel and AMD CPUs will be available in the standard and slim chassis designs. However, it would appear that NVIDIA GPUs will be limited to Intel-based models only. The AMD variants will all be Advantage Edition with Radeon 6000-series GPUs.

[KING19]

Good find.

 

I wonder what the prices will be, Most likely insanely expensive especially for the Intel version..

 

I noticed they're using a 1080p webcam which is about damn time. Sucks that the AMD version is not using Thunderbolt 4/USB 4...

 

 

[GeekBear80]

The new Slim 7 is said to be approx. $1519 for the AMD/AMD version and $1586 approx. for the 7i Intel/nVidia ditto. 

 

It is obvious that the new Slim will become the ThinkBook 16p gen 3 further down the line even if the Legion version is perfectly fine (discrete design). The "regular" 7 has way too much RGB while the sibling is pleasant to look at to me. 

 

Moving to a 3070 is also a step forward (I guess it will be possible to reflash it to a higher TGP). It says "100 W" at this time without info on boost (such as 100 W base with boost to 115 or 130 W).

[KING19]

 

 

[saturnotaku]

Many more details about the 2022 Legion 7 announced here. Here are the highlights:

 

• NVIDIA GPUs will indeed only be available on Intel-based models. If you want an AMD CPU, you must take a Radeon GPU.
• The webcam has been upgraded to 1080p. No word on Windows Hello IR support, but the power button contains the same fingerprint reader as the Legion Slim 7.
• The bottom panel has been redesigned, making it much easier to open.
• The keyboard has been revamped with an extra 0.2mm of travel.
• Lenovo has brought the RGB control in house so no more Corsair iCue!

Availability in the US is supposed to start this month for the 7i with a starting price of $2450. The AMD version will follow in June starting at $2050.

[KING19]

^Nice

 

The Legion 7 most likely will be the best gaming laptop of the year and worth its price.

 

Looking forward to the full review!.

[ringoffire]

Still waiting on details.  Last year's Legion 7i was the perfomance champ competing with much thicker Clevo but I suspect 175w will be difficult in the thin chassis to maintain enough sustained wattage on the CPU combined- mine typically can manage 165w GPU but only around 40w CPU under load.  The new GT77 is advertised as handling sustained 175w GPU and 75W CPU loads, and per some early reviewed sustained 150W on CPU with some kind of load on the GPU as well. 

 

I think the liquid cooled tongfangs out there need more attention as the top timespy score right now is an Eluktronics several hundred points above the MSI 3080ti models.  Hard to compete with a liquid loop going outside the entire chassis, and I think all the other manufacturers need to start offering it as an option in desktop replacements.

[KING19]

The Lenovo Legion 7 2022 Models are now available on Lenovo's website

 

Intel version:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-7-series/legion-7i-gen-7-(16-inch-intel)/82td0004us

 

AMD version:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-7-series/legion-7-gen-7-(16-inch-amd)/82uh0000us

 

The price is kinda high but if you guys are interested better buy it quick before they're sold out

[saturnotaku]

That pricing is absurd, especially for the AMD one. The HP Omen 16 with the EX 6650M, so not much worse than the 6700, is currently on sale for nearly $1000 cheaper. When it gets discounted, the MSI Delta 15 with the same RX 6700M is in a similar price range. 

[KING19]

1 hour ago, saturnotaku said:

That pricing is absurd, especially for the AMD one. The HP Omen 16 with the EX 6650M, so not much worse than the 6700, is currently on sale for nearly $1000 cheaper. When it gets discounted, the MSI Delta 15 with the same RX 6700M is in a similar price range. 

 

Yeah i agree. The Intel version is definitely the better deal by far.

 

Lenovo normally over charge their laptops when they're first released. They're charging over $2000 for the Legion 5s with the RTX 3070Ti when they have last gens Legions on sale for almost half the price including ones with the RTX 3070.

[saturnotaku]

1 hour ago, KING19 said:

 

Yeah i agree. The Intel version is definitely the better deal by far.

 

 

Even then, it's still not a deal considering it's a 3070 Ti.

[win32asmguy]

1 hour ago, KING19 said:

Yeah i agree. The Intel version is definitely the better deal by far.

 

Lenovo normally over charge their laptops when they're first released. They're charging over $2000 for the Legion 5s with the RTX 3070Ti when they have last gens Legions on sale for almost half the price including ones with the RTX 3070.

They do have some great coupons for their workstations. For instance, the Thinkpad P16 can be had for ~$3200 after coupon with 12900HX, 64GB memory, 1TB ssd, RTX A4500 (pro version of 3070Ti), and a 4k 16:10 panel. Significantly cheaper than Dell/HP/MSI laptops that have Alder Lake and can take 128GB of memory. I also appreciate the Windows 10 support for that model, maybe the same for the Legion 7i Gen7 but it seems like most of the other manufacturers have dropped support for it.

[saturnotaku]

2 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

They do have some great coupons for their workstations. For instance, the Thinkpad P16 can be had for ~$3200 after coupon with 12900HX, 64GB memory, 1TB ssd, RTX A4500 (pro version of 3070Ti), and a 4k 16:10 panel. Significantly cheaper than Dell/HP/MSI laptops that have Alder Lake and can take 128GB of memory. I also appreciate the Windows 10 support for that model, maybe the same for the Legion 7i Gen7 but it seems like most of the other manufacturers have dropped support for it.

 

You can get a P1 Gen 5 with a 12800H, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, RTX 3070 Ti, and 1600p/165 Hz panel for $2450 + 8% Rakuten cash back. 

[KING19]

On 8/2/2022 at 7:44 PM, saturnotaku said:

 

Even then, it's still not a deal considering it's a 3070 Ti.

 

A 3080ti isnt that much faster than a 3070ti. OEMs often overcharge for 3080ti laptops

 

The prices will go down for the new Legion 7s eventually when more of them are available

 

Speaking the RTX 3070Ti. The walmart deal for the Legion 5 Pro Gen 7 is still active.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo-Legion-5-Pro-16-Laptop-Intel-Core-i7-12700H-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-3070-16GB-RAM-1TB-SSD-Windows-11-Home-Storm-Grey-82RF00DBUS/761504447

 

On 8/2/2022 at 7:53 PM, win32asmguy said:

They do have some great coupons for their workstations. For instance, the Thinkpad P16 can be had for ~$3200 after coupon with 12900HX, 64GB memory, 1TB ssd, RTX A4500 (pro version of 3070Ti), and a 4k 16:10 panel. Significantly cheaper than Dell/HP/MSI laptops that have Alder Lake and can take 128GB of memory. I also appreciate the Windows 10 support for that model, maybe the same for the Legion 7i Gen7 but it seems like most of the other manufacturers have dropped support for it.

 

Yeah they're. a workstation are the only laptops are worth that price imo. Not only the quality is great but you get much better support than customer based laptops.

[Bullit]

As the prices they are putting on,  the industry will be crying later that no one buys notebook and they will have to make a fire sale later....

[KING19]

The Legion 7 2022 RX6850M XT and 3080Ti configurations are now available on their site but the prices are insane

 

They're charging $4,119.99 for the 3080Ti version... Add the tax to it and the total is $4,367.19.......

 

Also they're having a sale for last year's model for half the price for a RTX 3080 including Intel version.

 

 

[ryan]

dude thats looking tight!!!

 

this could easily be the best laptop and even though they are both thin and light they might just well prove to be the fastest for their size

[jlp0209]

Microcenter now selling the Legion 7i i9 HX / 3080 Ti for $3500. It is in stock locally at my store. I'd consider it but for G-sync never being fixed on Gen 6 Legions with 1600p screens, so hard pass. 

 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/649578/lenovo-legion-7i-16iax7-160-gaming-laptop-computer-grey

[saturnotaku]

44 minutes ago, jlp0209 said:

I'd consider it but for G-sync never being fixed on Gen 6 Legions with 1600p screens, so hard pass. 

 

I was reading about this issue and am wondering if it's a problem on laptops that have Advanced Optimus or only those with standard G-Sync.

[jlp0209]

24 minutes ago, saturnotaku said:

 

I was reading about this issue and am wondering if it's a problem on laptops that have Advanced Optimus or only those with standard G-Sync.

 

I can't say with 100% certainty that it affects AO enabled systems as well, I could've sworn I found comments that it does. It's an issue with all drivers 512.xx and beyond. I had some optimism since one driver update seemingly fixed it on HP Omens, but nothing yet. 

[saturnotaku]

Legion Slim 7 AMD Advantage Edition (R9 6900HX/RX 6800S) is now available at Best Buy. $1950, though. 😐

 

Lenovo Legion Slim 7 AMD Advantage Edition 16" WUXGA Gaming Laptop AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX-16GB Memory-AMD Radeon RX 6800S-1TB SSD Onyx Grey 82UG0002US - Best Buy

[-batab-]

Sadly there is no 64gb version. I could have pulled the trigger on that one! 

 

I don't feel like Lenovo pricing is bad. It's actually (probably) the best among similar products. 

 

I'm also curious to see thermals/efficiency/performance of the amd vs Intel version. 

[Bullit]

Best do not make it accessible. Not everyone lives in US with good salaries.

[-batab-]

4 hours ago, Bullit said:

Best do not make it accessible. Not everyone lives in US with good salaries.

I agree, but unfortunately this is what we get with the current market situation. Current prices are hot garbage but we can't really expect to have one single producer or reseller to go -30% or -40% of his competitors.

 

Also I'm not even US, which makes it even worse considering the current € inflation.

[KING19]

On 8/29/2022 at 4:37 PM, -batab- said:

Sadly there is no 64gb version. I could have pulled the trigger on that one! 

 

I don't feel like Lenovo pricing is bad. It's actually (probably) the best among similar products. 

 

I'm also curious to see thermals/efficiency/performance of the amd vs Intel version. 

 

You can upgrade to 64GBs of RAM yourself and save money. OEMs often overcharges for RAM and SSD anyways so its no big deal.

 

Speaking of pricing there a labor day sale for the Maxed out version of the Legion 7 2022 Intel version for $3300. Make you use the code: GAMEON25

 

But still im not spending that much money on any laptop.