Light Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Every time I look at the bios I find myself wondering, what does it mean on the Overview page where it says: Maximum Clock Speed: 4.40 Ghz Minimum Clock Speed: 0.80 Ghz for a CPU that is supposed to be max 5.0 Ghz according to intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/228439/intel-core-i912950hx-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz/specifications.html I don't see the 4.40 Ghz figure anywhere on the Intel or Dell site. Is that to do with laptop thermal balance, or ? Is this limiting the performance of the 12950 HX CPU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 The previous generation had the Maximum Clock Speed in bios faster than the maximum clock speed advertised by intel, so I'm not sure what to make of the latest generation having the bios maximum clock speed in bios only 88% of the intel advertised cpu speed ??? Not sure what that bios entry controls (?) (or measures?), or if it makes any difference, but it seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 might that be the max multicore clocks? max boost as listed by intel is only the single core max. 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 I don't know -- I guess first I have to figure out if that is a hard coded "setting" or a "report" in the dell bios. The previous generation dell precision had "Max CPU clock" 10% higher than the speed Intel advertised for the max boost of the CPU, whereas this current generation has it 12% lower than the Intel advertised max speed, so it has me really curious what that bios entry means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 did you make sure in bios under performance menu "Intel Turbo Boost Maximum Technology 3.0" is turned on? is that 4.4 number static or fluctuating each boot? it might just be counting the min and max Mhz it run that session that far, it ramped to max 4.4 and run as low as 800, 1 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 Yes, I turned on Intel Turbo Boost Maximum Technology 3.0 and rebooted and it's still showing Max Clock 4.40 Ghz The BIOS Maximum Clock Speed: 4.40 Ghz seems to be static - have not seen it change yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 On the previous Dell Precision, BIOS had "Maximum Clock Speed" 5.50 Ghz and that CPU was only rated for a maximum speed of 5.0 Ghz according to Intel. So the previous generation Precision laptop had that number 10% higher than Intel's advertised speed, and the new one has Maximum Clock Speed 12% lower than Intel advertised speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 not seeing bios version, are you on the latest 1.6.3? the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 also wondering if that speed entry is really something read out "live" or if that is just a spec listing of some kind. what are ur actual clocks under idle, multi and single core load? Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: not seeing bios version, are you on the latest 1.6.3? Yes 1.6.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, jaybee83 said: also wondering if that speed entry is really something read out "live" or if that is just a spec listing of some kind. what are ur actual clocks under idle, multi and single core load? Real world I'm seeing a single core load (exporting a very large tiff file from a vector graphic to a raster image which is a single threaded operation and pegs one core while I wait for the menu to switch from optimized to adaptive) hover around 4.27 to 4.37 Ghz and a momentary peak at 4.43 Ghz in windows task manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 6:51 PM, Light said: Real world I'm seeing a single core load (exporting a very large tiff file from a vector graphic to a raster image which is a single threaded operation and pegs one core while I wait for the menu to switch from optimized to adaptive) hover around 4.27 to 4.37 Ghz and a momentary peak at 4.43 Ghz in windows task manager. dont trust task manager when it comes to clocks monitoring...rather use smth like hwinfo64. Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I haven't looked closely at how Task Manager handles Alder Lake (P + E cores running at separate speeds). Does it just report the P cores speed? Or does it average them all? That could drag down what you'd expect to see since the E cores will always be running slower. (HWiNFO will report all of the core speeds individually.) Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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