HP Omen 16 (16-k0023dx), i7-12700H, RTX-3060 (115W), 32 GB RAM. P-cores always hit 100°C.

[Trevayne10]

Per the title,
 

I have an HP Omen 16 laptop (16-k0023dx), i7-12700H,  RTX-3060 (115W), 32 GB DDR5-4800.  When gaming, P-cores always hit 100°C, but doesn't really throttle.  180W PSU brick,  I think the RTX-3060 TDP is 115W. I love this laptop, but am worried about 100°C all the time.

I realize there's a lot of controversy surrounding all the OEMs' poor heat pipe / sink designs, but I didn't think it was this bad - especially Hewlett-Packard.

Am wondering if I should re-paste the CPU (and GPU) heatsinks, if it'll help? I have some decent paste:  Noctua NT-H2. What else can I do?  (returning/refunding this laptop is off the table.  Got a great price break on it, new.  $1,199 USD, brand new).

- Trev

[ryan]

unless your gaming with it on your lap or hands get toasty on a desk I wouldn't worry. many laptops are hitting 100c these days

 

I suggest downloading throttle stop and trying out different core speeds and find one that alows for good performance and good temps

 

for example I have the omen 16 with the 11800h I can run at 4.3ghz but it throttles so I lower it to 3.8ghz - 3.6ghz I get temps maxing around 87c which im cool with\\

 

I'm old school in my knowledge but I'm pretty sure everything under 90c is safe 100c is a bit toasty and personally makes me uncomfortable. if you need help with throttle stop just ask.

[Trevayne10]

4 minutes ago, ryan said:

unless your gaming with it on your lap or hands get toasty on a desk I wouldn't worry. many laptops are hitting 100c these days

 

I suggest downloading throttle stop and trying out different core speeds and find one that alows for good performance and good temps

 

for example I have the omen 16 with the 11800h I can run at 4.3ghz but it throttles so I lower it to 3.8ghz - 3.6ghz I get temps maxing around 87c which im cool with\\

 

I'm old school in my knowledge but I'm pretty sure everything under 90c is safe 100c is a bit toasty and personally makes me uncomfortable. if you need help with throttle stop just ask.

Hi Ryan!

Thanks for the quick reply.  Much appreciated.

This CPU is the "H" version (i7-12700H).  Can't do a bloody thing with it it, clock-wise, undervolt-wise or anything else-wise. Intel completely locked it down, so the otherwise excellent ThrottleStop won't do a thing to it.

Thanks again!

- Trev

[ryan]

download throttlestop

 

here: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/

 

open it

 

click on fivr

 

change clocks to 38 all of them on the bottom right of the window that pops up after clicking fivr....click apply and save settings and run a benchmark

 

step one download and open throttle stop

 

click here

 

 

 

then change the 42 on all the ones you can to 38 - 36

 

looks like this

[ryan]

basically people are lying about running overclocked laptops unless its a 4 in thick beast clevo. pretty much every laptop throttles even the ones people say don't as I have them. the omen 16 is very good when it comes to thermal management. i'd say down it 2 or three steps and be happy as no game should be cpu bottlenecked even with a downclock and especially with 4k 1440p/

 

 

basically I shrugged off your post about being locked down as Ive never had a cpu by intel that throttlestop couldn't alter.

 

but hey maybe your right maybe someone like @Talon could chime in and confirm

[Talon]

12th gen laptop CPUs outside of the HK or HX are 100% locked down. No overclocking, no voltage control at all. 

[Trevayne10]

11 minutes ago, Talon said:

12th gen laptop CPUs outside of the HK or HX are 100% locked down. No overclocking, no voltage control at all. 

 

I already said that. You need to direct this to ryan.

[ryan]

geeze really? holy smokes am I behind times sorry trvayne..I thought throttlestop would work..perhaps setting maximum power state to 99 percent would help by disabling turbo or you can't do that either?

[Trevayne10]

28 minutes ago, ryan said:

geeze really? holy smokes am I behind times sorry trvayne..I thought throttlestop would work..perhaps setting maximum power state to 99 percent would help by disabling turbo or you can't do that either?

um...

[ryan]

? disabling turbo for lower temps while gaming isnt a bad idea, most games are gpu limited

[Trevayne10]

15 minutes ago, ryan said:

? disabling turbo for lower temps while gaming isnt a bad idea, most games are gpu limited

Are you trolling, or are you just incredibly dense?

[saturnotaku]

22 minutes ago, ryan said:

? disabling turbo for lower temps while gaming isnt a bad idea, most games are gpu limited

 

Disabling turbo on an Intel CPU absolutely cripples its performance.

[Aaron44126]

1 hour ago, saturnotaku said:

Disabling turbo on an Intel CPU absolutely cripples its performance.

 

Eh?  I routinely run with turbo disabled.  I've been doing it for years on many different systems.  It keeps the system cool and quiet but performance is totally acceptable for light browsing / office work / videos / etc..  (I have a guide about quick toggling linked from my sig.)  With today's 16-core CPUs you can even get a pretty decent computational lift with a multi-threaded load.  I generally only flip turbo on for video encoding or gaming.

 

But yeah.  Under any type of load, today's laptop CPUs will hit 100 ºC, that's just the new normal.

[ryan]

dense>?

 

alot of people diable turbo for lower temps as aaron mentioned. I know it takes away alot of power but your concerned about temps.

 

as you put it dense. then if you don't what a software solution get a phase change thermal wafer they seem too work well and lower temps conciderably. so those are your options get new thermal paste(phase change pad was recommended), disable turbo, or put up with 100c.

 

dense to ask for help then complain about opinions

[Trevayne10]

10 minutes ago, ryan said:

dense>?

 

alot of people diable turbo for lower temps as aaron mentioned. I know it takes away alot of power but your concerned about temps.

 

as you put it dense. then if you don't what a software solution get a phase change thermal wafer they seem too work well and lower temps conciderably. so those are your options get new thermal paste(phase change pad was recommended), disable turbo, or put up with 100c.

 

dense to ask for help then complain about opinions

You answered my question; no, you weren't trolling.

[ryan]

ok dude, I don't know what your problem is, but you need to go to the psychologist and get your mind fixed. I have never came across anyone like you in 10 years with NBR/NBT. you either 1) need serious medical help or 2) need a friend.

 

or I deserve an explaination, what is dense about telling you what like 90 percent of people would recommend in your situation? i'm thinking your just a hornet, stinging at random.

 

Also don't respond back. I'm not interested in your child like insults. 

[Trevayne10]

5 hours ago, ryan said:

ok dude, I don't know what your problem is, but you need to go to the psychologist and get your mind fixed. I have never came across anyone like you in 10 years with NBR/NBT. you either 1) need serious medical help or 2) need a friend.

 

or I deserve an explaination, what is dense about telling you what like 90 percent of people would recommend in your situation? i'm thinking your just a hornet, stinging at random.

 

Also don't respond back. I'm not interested in your child like insults. 

I've simply run out of ways to tell you that intel has completely locked down the i7-12700H CPU in every way conceivable (including the turbo feature), and you refuse to get it. Even Talon couldn't get through to you, and that was after you invited him into the discussion.

I came here for feedback as to whether applying a high quality thermal paste to the CPU and GPU heat sinks might effectively reduce operating temperatures, and if not, then what other options might there be (excluding, of course, things like ThrottleStop, which is pointless in this instance).

[ryan]

yes I realize this, Im not saying anything contrary. I don't know what your taking meds wise but it's been accepted long ago its locked down. im done here ask someone else

[KING19]

On 10/28/2022 at 4:41 PM, Aaron44126 said:

 

Eh?  I routinely run with turbo disabled.  I've been doing it for years on many different systems.  It keeps the system cool and quiet but performance is totally acceptable for light browsing / office work / videos / etc..  (I have a guide about quick toggling linked from my sig.)  With today's 16-core CPUs you can even get a pretty decent computational lift with a multi-threaded load.  I generally only flip turbo on for video encoding or gaming.

 

But yeah.  Under any type of load, today's laptop CPUs will hit 100 ºC, that's just the new normal.

 

Agreed.

 

Its good to disable turbo when on battery as you really dont need it and also you gain some more battery life and Intel CPUs badly needs it. The power option registry tweak is a very useful tweak that everyone should use.

 

 

12 hours ago, ryan said:

dense>?

 

alot of people diable turbo for lower temps as aaron mentioned. I know it takes away alot of power but your concerned about temps.

 

as you put it dense. then if you don't what a software solution get a phase change thermal wafer they seem too work well and lower temps conciderably. so those are your options get new thermal paste(phase change pad was recommended), disable turbo, or put up with 100c.

 

dense to ask for help then complain about opinions

 

Aaron said is good to have it disabled when you're doing light tasks like web browsing, watching videos, office work, and etc especially when running on battery but he flips it on with the Power Option tweak when plugged in when gaming and video encoding for obvious reasons because the i7-12700H has a base clock speed of 2.3GHZ which will cause some stuttering especially when playing games when boost is off losing performance. Even with turbo boost on NVIDIA Dynamic boost will lower the boost speeds of the i7-12700H if its heavy GPU game so im surprised his temps are hitting 100C.

 

@Trevayne10You could try repasting depending how long you had your Omen, it could be a bad paste job from the factory and/or when playing games instead of putting it flat on a table lift the back of your laptop where the fans are

 

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[Trevayne10]

On 10/29/2022 at 2:43 PM, ryan said:

yes I realize this, Im not saying anything contrary. I don't know what your taking meds wise but it's been accepted long ago its locked down. im done here ask someone else

Ryan, please accept my sincerest apologies for the insults and arrogance that I directed at you. I was completely wrong and ignorant, and I am sorry.  I finally broke down and installed Throttlestop and I am now able to limit the clock speeds of all cores on my i7-12700H CPU to 3.8 GHz.  Yes, I do take a considerable performance hit (no more 4.7 GHz), but the max temp on any core is now down to 77°C, instead of a nearly constant 100°C.  This completely solves the overheating problems on my laptop and I do not need to bother with applying new thermal paste.

Again, my sincerest apologies.

- Trev

[ryan]

its all good man

 

i have to use throttlestop also. it can overclock to 5ghz but i run 3.4ghz on all cores, you could try repasting... talon had luck with the phase change thermal pads

[Trevayne10]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

its all good man

 

i have to use throttlestop also. it can overclock to 5ghz but i run 3.4ghz on all cores, you could try repasting... talon had luck with the phase change thermal pads

 Thanks, Ryan -

Yeah, I've heard good things about the Honeywell PTM7950 phase change pads. 
Apparently this is one of the better sources for them:    https://lmg.gg/iBCQ1

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year
 

-Trev

[ryan]

happy holidays brother. Honestly I think phase change pads are your best bet, talon was able to max clocks and be below 80c on all cores and gpu. pretty impressive. As for overheating its a thing with laptops very very few laptops don't overheat.

 

also it wasnt your fault. what I said was kinda dumb and trolley. but know this you have to change your thermal paste and I highly recommend phase change pads or thermal grizzly kryro