Meaker Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 2 3 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS-16L13 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Before remodeling After remodeling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MS-16L13 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 A brief analysis of the power supply of the CLEVO 30 series MXM graphics card. A total of 11 phases of power supply, 7 phases to the core, 2 phases to the memory, 2 phases of auxiliary power. After multiple data checks Mos tube parameters stable 50a maximum 60a, inductor isat 70a irms 45a. This time the question arises, the discerning eye can see at a glance that the parameters of this inductor has a big problem. This package of inductors can have such high parameters, in fact, there is really no, and the false label is very serious. The real isat may only be about 30a, and the inductance drops very quickly, and the datasheet does not match. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS-16L13 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Original inductor test 1khz frequency 19a when the temperature drift began to appear What concept isat and irms all false mark more than 30%. After replacing the new inductor without heat dissipation 1khz test 30a temperature 76 degrees inductance value no change, datasheet isat standard 37a 20% inductance value decay fully met the standard. Heat gun heating inductor over a hundred degrees 1khz test 25a still no significant change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 6 hours ago, MS-16L13 said: Original inductor test 1khz frequency 19a when the temperature drift began to appear What concept isat and irms all false mark more than 30%. After replacing the new inductor without heat dissipation 1khz test 30a temperature 76 degrees inductance value no change, datasheet isat standard 37a 20% inductance value decay fully met the standard. Heat gun heating inductor over a hundred degrees 1khz test 25a still no significant change. Did you do the soldering yourself? What values did you choose for the shunt resistors and did you update the phase count resistor network? Since I've updated my cooling I only get to about 57C at 1900Mhz core clocks during cyberpunk so I'd be interested in re-enforcing the VRM and changing the power limits. 1 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 19 hours ago, MS-16L13 said: Before remodeling After remodeling impressive stuff, such a clean job! what kinda improvements, if any, are u seeing before and after? Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 9 hours ago, jaybee83 said: impressive stuff, such a clean job! what kinda improvements, if any, are u seeing before and after? Looks like 10-15% over my simple shunt mod. I'd guess from my 1900-2000 to 2150mhz type clocks. 2 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW_260 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 @MS-16L13 Hello! do you have any information about which models of components were installed on the board? TongFang GM6PX8X | 13900HX | 32Gb@6600Mhz C32 | RTX4080 | QHD @240Hz | PM9A1 1Tb | PREMA MOD | Custom 360mm AIO Liquid System | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 20 hours ago, FTW_260 said: @MS-16L13 Hello! do you have any information about which models of components were installed on the board? Same chips, just more of them. Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW_260 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, Meaker said: Same chips, just more of them. I mean these: I'd like to try shunt mod my RTX2080S like I did earlier on RTX2060 but I'm afraid 200W is the limit for the board( TongFang GM6PX8X | 13900HX | 32Gb@6600Mhz C32 | RTX4080 | QHD @240Hz | PM9A1 1Tb | PREMA MOD | Custom 360mm AIO Liquid System | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 Probably similar values, I think it was more the frequency response he was looking at. 1 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW_260 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 @Meakertell me please, do you know something about the power limit of the mxm connector? Is it safe to increase consumption to at least 250W? TongFang GM6PX8X | 13900HX | 32Gb@6600Mhz C32 | RTX4080 | QHD @240Hz | PM9A1 1Tb | PREMA MOD | Custom 360mm AIO Liquid System | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 Most of this comes from the AUX connector IIRC, at 19V it's mostly just the input voltage so does not have a huge amount of filtering before it hits the card. So it's more about the capability of the MOSFETs on the board. 1 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniffy Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Meaker have you filled in your 3070s VRMs? I am wondering how you're moving 180W through your board with 4 MOSFETs for the GPU. Take away memory and aux power and you're looking at at least 130-140W which would push these components above 25A continuous which is their rating. The datasheet suggests there is current protection, is it allowing this limit to be exceeded if temps are fine? Metabox Prime-X (X170KM-G) | 17.3" 165Hz G-sync | 11900KF | 32GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 3080 16GB | 1TB 980 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 Shunt modding has reduced the board limit and I liquid cool my system with a hybrid cooler. Also does the GA104 have separate core and uncore power planes? I think it's small enough to not need it so it's 6 + 2 phases so 6 for core and 2 for mem. So I'm riding pretty close yes but not quite over. 2 Louqe Ghost S1 case (Top hat and bottom extension) Nvidia RTX 4070 MSI twin fan 32" MSI 4k 160HZ IPS display AMD Ryzen 7 7700 cooled via Thermalright 240mm AIO 48GB (2x24) DDR5 6000 CL36 Asus B650E-I motherboard 2TB T500 nvme SSD + 2TB SN770 nvme 500W Silverstone SFX-L PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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