the decline of the once mighty Nvidia laptop GPUs

[ssj92]

All this talk about 6GB VRAM and here I am buying SLI GTX 590s in 2022 with 1.5GB VRAM 😄

 

8GB has been a thing since 880M. I am still rocking three of them in old systems. 8GB flagship in 2014 has same VRAM as a 2023 4060 9 years later LOL

[jaybee83]

On 12/31/2022 at 8:06 AM, ssj92 said:

All this talk about 6GB VRAM and here I am buying SLI GTX 590s in 2022 with 1.5GB VRAM 😄

 

8GB has been a thing since 880M. I am still rocking three of them in old systems. 8GB flagship in 2014 has same VRAM as a 2023 4060 9 years later LOL

thats just wrong man....thanks for the reminder 😅

[KING19]

Quick question does lovelace has better memory bandwidth or something because the Memory bit bus castration on the laptop versions are very concerning especially if you're running games on QHD or even higher.

 

RTX 4090 - 256bit Bus

RTX 4080 - 192bit Bus

RTX 4070 - 128bit Bus

RTX 4060 - 96bit Bus

RTX 4050 - 96bit Bus

 

Cant rely on benchmarks until we see the real world performance

 

 

[1610ftw]

On 1/3/2023 at 10:38 PM, KING19 said:

Quick question does lovelace has better memory bandwidth or something because the Memory bit bus castration on the laptop versions are very concerning especially if you're running games on QHD or even higher.

 

RTX 4090 - 256bit Bus

RTX 4080 - 192bit Bus

RTX 4070 - 128bit Bus

RTX 4060 - 96bit Bus

RTX 4050 - 96bit Bus

 

Cant rely on benchmarks until we see the real world performance

 

 

 

Yes that memory bandwidth looks anemic but so do the Time Spy scores leaked so far, especially for the 4090 and 4080.

 

Benchmarks are a good indicator as long as they are already underwhelming as games are unlikely to fare better.

 

Here are the specs in full according to Nvidia:

 

https://www.nvidia.com/de-de/geforce/laptops/compare/

 

 

If dynamic boost stays at 25W max then we will end up with the same TGP for a supposedly much more powerful card and with a whole bunch of upcoming 18" laptops that could have been made beefier if necessary.

[ssj92]

We don't know what speed GDDR6 they are using yet but I would hope it's faster than last gen. 

[KING19]

On 1/3/2023 at 7:00 PM, 1610ftw said:

 

Yes that memory bandwidth looks anemic but so do the Time Soy scores leaked so far, especially for the 4090 and 4080.

 

Benchmarks are a good indicator as long as they are already underwhelming as games are unlikely to fare better.

 

Here are the specs in fiull according to Nvidia:

 

https://www.nvidia.com/de-de/geforce/laptops/compare/

 

 

If dynamic boost stays at 25W max then we will end up with the same TGP for a supposedly much more powerful card and with a whole bunch of upcoming 19" laptops that could have ben made beefier if necessary.

 

I see and also i forgot that CES was this week..... I hate being busy...

 

On 1/3/2023 at 10:22 PM, ssj92 said:

We don't know what speed GDDR6 they are using yet but I would hope it's faster than last gen. 

 

It doesnt seem to be as Nvidia never mentioned about the speeds. All of the articles said about it is that its their lowest voltage ever.

 

I guess they're heavily relying on DLSS 3.

[Etern4l]

4 minutes ago, KING19 said:

It doesnt seem to be as Nvidia never mentioned about the speeds.

 

That's Apple's playbook. Obfuscate as many technical details as possible, especially if not favourable.

[1610ftw]

37 minutes ago, KING19 said:

 

I see and also i forgot that CES was this week..... I hate being busy...

 

 

It is not like you missed much - as has been predicted we got a bunch of "behemoths" with an 18" screen that are mostly less big and powerful with regard to cooling capabilities than 17" laptops used to be and at least on paper they do not look like cooling has improved much over the last generation.

 

Actual performance that will of course still be higher due to increased CPU and GPU performance. Still it is quite funny that with the extremely power hungry Intel GPUs a combined load of 240 to 250W is considered acceptable which leaves only 65 to 75W for the CPU when 175W is going to the GPU. 

 

The only company that could possibly offer more performance is Dell with the Alienware 18 that is about one third heavier than the competition so possibly some of that is going into a higher performance vapor chamber that might dissipate closer to 300W.