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Precision M6700 owner's thread
JadeRover replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Correct, DP_D is the standard (zbook 17/15 g3 has it on DP_C as well). Yes, you want the 6VCJW one Look at pictures when buying, it's the only one with a white "3D" sticker on it. All the other cables won't work. -
Precision M6700 owner's thread
JadeRover replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
That's actually a 40 pin edp cable that is only for the RGB lcd (the connector isn't a standard iPEX that plugs into a 4K lcd for example). I made a post about the difference in the cables, see here : You want the "3D" cable that is standard 40 pin 4 lane edp that was made originally for the 120hz 1080p screen option. Keep in mind that using an eDP lcd will force the MXM card to output directly to the internal LCD, located on DP_D of the MXM connector. There is no mux for the iGPU. That means that if you are testng vbioses or cards that don't have eDP/DP on DP_D you'll get a black screen, external HDMI and even VGA should work all the time. EDIT : that's assuming you wan't to upgrade the lcd to a modern 40 pin eDP IPS lcd (1080p >60hz or resolution >1080p). Upgrading to 4K has been done by a few members of the forum, look up @TheQuentincc -
Hello, Clearly the card is in a dead short, judging by your pictures, the capacitors are burnt and shorted. The board layers look chared as well, meaning deep under the board layers the + and - are touching and shorting out. There is no way the card can turn on in this state as the main power rail is shorting out to ground. If you know professionals get them to diagnose the card, if it's a board layer short or a capacitor short on the main power rail the repair probability is actually pretty high. The GPU die and VRAM would not be affected by the damage (if I guessed correctly on board / capactor short). You need someone with the skill to dig trhough the board layers, rebuild them and install new capacitors. There are videos on youtube that explain this pretty well for desktop cards.
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Finally the new RTX MXM cards will work in our laptops!
JadeRover replied to SuperMG's topic in Components & Upgrades
Hi, yes the card will work in hybride mod, you'll loose a little bit of performance due to routing the display signal through the iGPU. I used a 1060M that had HDMi on DP_D (laptop booted with black screen in discrete GPU mode, booted fine in hybride mode and 1060M was recognized and used for games) Not sure the external display outputs will all work well, we'll have to look up the schematic of your model to make sure wich external display connections have a mux switch meaning the iGPU will run the external connections as well. -
Finally the new RTX MXM cards will work in our laptops!
JadeRover replied to SuperMG's topic in Components & Upgrades
It has been discussed a few times, but be careful, Zbook 15 g2 routes it's internal eDP connector to DP_C of the MXM slot, you actually need to make sure your card outputs standard DP to DP_C so that the mod can work. I had a gtx 1060M on my zbook 17 g3 that only outputed HDMi on DP_C so it didn't work, even when trying a crap ton of different vbioses. -
Need help for editing or getting VBIOS for 4080M and 4090M MXM
JadeRover replied to SuperMG's topic in Components & Upgrades
Do you know any pascal editors ? For the display table definition it is pretty much universal for nvidia, these guys know how to do it. They used a hex editor, they talk about it in the forum posts. -
Need help for editing or getting VBIOS for 4080M and 4090M MXM
JadeRover replied to SuperMG's topic in Components & Upgrades
Hi, Look here, these mac guys managed to edit the display tables on pascal Pxx00 MXM gpus iMac 2011 Maxwell and Pascal GPU upgrade | Page 21 | MacRumors Forums I personally tested their p3000 vbios and indeed the eDP is changed from port DP_D (stock vbios) to DP_C (to comply with the iMAC's MXM slot). I tried getting in contact with M0bil who seems to be the lead modder but no reply unfortunately He put up some links to this github saying it helped him mod the vbios but not sure how GitHub - envytools/envytools: Tools for people envious of nvidia's blob driver. I assume that display table modding should be the same for pascal and newer GPUs so there is hope if these modders tell you how to do it. The last heardle is that starting from pascal, nvidia vBios have a checksum lock that means vbios needs to be packed in a special way so that the security chip on the nvidia GPU runs the vbios (I tried manually editing power limits on a vbios and the p3000 and it wouldn't even post, even with 2 bytes being changed). -
HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
JadeRover replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Hello @GuitarG, super modding adventure, my hat off to you ! I have a question about making custom eDP cable, did you use sets of micro-coax cables for the individual wires ? Those with shielding around the data lines of the eDP data signals? I am asking this because I will attempt to extend a 40 pin eDP cable from a zbook 17 g5 so that it can go in to LCD panels that have the connector on the right side (looking from the back), by default, the zbook 17 g5 panels all have the connector on the left side (looking from the back). The current cable is too short and needs to be extended by 20 cms or so. There are some nice 4K 120hz 500 nits panels in my area and it would be a shame to miss out just because of a dumb lcd pannel connector placement. The fact that I want to push 4K 120Hz means I need very good signal integrity right ? Micro Coax seems impossible to solder by hand, the cables will be insanely close to each other and I can already see myself chasing shorts for hours 😧- 270 replies
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Pascal is signed with a Hash that changes each time you modify a single bit in the bios. These guys found a way to rebuild the hash that validates the check done by the falcon module on the nvidia core.
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Actually I don't know about that, guys like on imac forums modder M0bile found ways to sign pascal vbioses to make them work with their iMacs. They modified the display table definitions, power limits, clocks, etc... iMac 2011 Maxwell and Pascal GPU upgrade | Page 21 | MacRumors Forums They haven't been clear on how they did it, supposedely using this : GitHub - envytools/envytools: Tools for people envious of nvidia's blob driver.
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Precision M6700 owner's thread
JadeRover replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Hi, I tried your method and it worked ! Awesome ! thanks for the tutorial. currently running in 10 bits mod on a quadro M3000M -
Saw the pics that's some modding! Rip to that doner motherboard, killed for a 10 cents component ☠️ Tbh, even just a wire shorting out the resistor would have been enough. So 1070 goes in after 980m? And do you have ideas for the cooling mod? You'll prob need to solder more heat pipes + you can add a fan in the ODD bay as you are using the sata port with a very compact msata port, smart.
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Great, good to hear the mod was successfull ! Glad I was able to help, enjoy the killer machine ! That's a huge amount of power you have in your ands, how are the temps ? The single fan must be doing a lot of work.
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I tested the 1060 MXM but got black screen with backlight on (because of the mod). I had some white static lines that popped up for 1s but the screen was black all of the time. I could hear that the laptop booted into windows, spamming shift played the "sticky keys warning" sound. What I didn't try, and I should have, is testing the p3000 without the mod to see if the DP signal from the gpu on DP_C would be displayed on the internal lcd. It would be complicated to remove my solder prob now, but not impossible, I'll see if I have the time. I'll do some more tests also, like putting 1060 inside the dell 7720 that has eDP on DP_D and seing if the 1060 outputs. I have a 1060 bios with output on D. Looking at the 1060 MXM pcb, THE 3 PNL signals are going somewhere, the tracks are connecting to deep parts of the pcb so we'll see.
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Yes it did work, there is no PWM transitor, only a selector that choses between the MXM_PWM and PCH_PWM (pic below) Yes, Zotac 1060 from a en1060 zbox (mini desktop), it has 2 DP and 2 HDMi so they probably used DP_C for HDMi but I'll test soon, I still have the OG vBIOS that was on the card when I got it. Hmmm, yes I know that it's the MXM gpu that sends the 3 pins to the LCD (more correctly to the switcher between MXM and PCH signals that then go to the screen). I wasn't clear ? I know that the mod consists of forcing 3.3v on these pins to make the lcd, it's backlight and it's PWM signal all show 3.3v logic... which forces them on. The lid switch is connected to ENABLET so that closing the lid turns off the screen. Switching the laptop off stops +3VS (where I connected the 3 signal pins) so that also turns off the screen, quite a complete mod honestly ! And yes I didn't want to buy an RTX card, cheapest one is 145 euros for RTX3000 (almost more than zbook 17 g3 + 1060m)