Bullit

Well you can turn off that RGB stuff in most laptops. And indeed one of factors (a small one ) in my Legion choice was the non gaming appearance. Still that review compartmentalization that bureaucrats love so much is detrimental to users choices that have many variances in their lives.

Notebookcheck rating is almost irrelevant , they do good reviews but the way they reach the score is bizarre. People really need to read the text there always and do due diligence. For example that Dell have only 45w for the 3050 that is a very weak card, the screen is 60hz only too. I advice the op to buy a laptop with at least a 3060 with 130w TDP. It is possible that a 4050 can be competitive too, 4060 that have 8Gb VRAM even better. Screen at least 300nits 100% sRGB, 144/165hz.

Well i am interested to see what are results in Blender Optix Render, DaVinci Resolve, Unreal Engine. It is weird that people that are supposedly at forefront of technology - so disruptive - are so keen on labels: this is a gaming laptop , this is a workstation etc. Instead of independent thinking they follow labels. It is quite bizarre, a GPU today is a worktool too.

He only tests games.

https://wccftech.com/amd-misses-ryzen-7040-phoenix-apu-launch-deadline-first-laptops-now-arriving-in-may/

https://www.tomshardware.com/opinion/ssds-in-laptops-and-desktops-cost-too-damn-much

Screen looks wonderful but it is glossy not matte.

Much faster for what?

Competition is good.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/LG-debuts-Samsung-OLED-displays-on-its-new-Gram-Style-laptop-line.688100.0.html

I have difficulty accepting that massive company like Lenovo sells less 17.3 than MSI, Asus, Acer, LG, Alienware etc...

Things might be smaller but screens will not be with 4K and 8K . I have no enjoyment seeing TV at 15.6" even in FHD that is why i have been buying 17 and 17. 3 since 2004. I wish obviously to have an even bigger but rolling extended screen, but that will be expensive in next 10 years or more.

I have 2 requests to even consider it: working office and playing videos/music at minimum FHD in silence. Good mate screen with enough brightness for outside at least 500 nits. No regresses in other capabilities.

Disappointing. Being surpassed by competition that have 17" screens and even 18" also lower than 16" . Lenovo are getting lazy.

My 3060 at 130w ~73ºC gets much less heat then a 5800H at maximum power f 80w ~95ºC .. So i don't think that is a big issue.

Minimal.

VRAM is not related to those choices.

Nvidia continues to discriminate laptop buyers. Look at VRAM compared to desktop.

6Gb is a big issue for me in Unreal Engine, but also might be in Blender just currently i am just making small projects there. If timespy is something i need to install no chance. You can do the Blender Benchmark no need to install https://opendata.blender.org choose GPU Optix and v.3.3. My value is 2615 with Hwinfo i see it between 110-125w doing the benchmark.

Raytracing, tensor for denoising with Optix. I have the 130w 3060 Laptop and already in some scenes it starts to be a pleasure to work. It is at point where your work starts to feel fluid while in past render time was a break a coffee at best.

I never found a Clevo chassis that lasted in professional conditions more than 3 years. I bought 2 Clevos but recently i have not seen any advantage over other brands regarding everything that was advantageous in the past: price, component choice.

In Blender render benchmark https://opendata.blender.org/benchmarks/query/?compute_type=OPTIX&compute_type=CUDA&compute_type=HIP&compute_type=METAL&compute_type=ONEAPI&group_by=device_name&blender_version=3.3.0 RTX3080 laptop = 3482 points RTX2080 = 2400 points

Well the "declined" Nvidia laptop GPU's are much more capable than the once "might" Nvidia laptop GPU's

I don't use my "gaming" laptop for gaming. Tom's reviews don't help me at all choosing a system. Unfortunately American media is too formatted, too compartmentalised into "market defined" boxes: workstation, gaming, office, entertainment. This is a completely outdated concept if it ever was justified. Tom's might only help not choosing a big lemon, but since Notebookcheck and Ultrabookreview are much superior and can do the same i don't even bother going there. I often commented in Notebookcheck to include more real world tests outside the "industry" castrating compartmentalised definitions and i don't know if i contributed to it but they started to include Blender GPU render performance . Ultrabookreview already did that. You can go to these two places and can discriminate the information you need for your particular case most of the time. Both sites still don't do bench's about video editing so it is an area they can be improved.

I don't see it that way. Ultrabookreview and Notebookcheck.net are much much better reviewing laptops than Toms. With Toms i would not ever been certain of what is better for me. Irresponsible as most hardware reviewers work he like others seems similar to those that want to fit every product in just their restricted class.