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hi,

you need to clear CMOS or reflash bios. I think something went sideways and BIOS lost BOOT list

On 10/6/2024 at 9:34 PM, SamSTG44 said:

Hello Sorry for spamming I just didn't like to create a new thread long story short 
I found an old MSI GT80 with 980m sli and i want to scavenge the gpus for my clevo P751 DM-g are they compatible with my laptop ?

hi,

absolutely not.

GT80 has LVDS screen so basically your best shot is 980m gtx

Clevo card from P751DM could be compatible, as long as its DM1 (and not DM2 / DM3).

8 hours ago, therhor70 said:

from www.x-vsion.com

Cool. Your GPUz screenshot indicates the card as a 6GB but on Xvision they only sell 12GB 3060s. Or don't they?

On 10/15/2024 at 5:29 AM, therhor70 said:

http://8.219.236.155/downloads/NVIDIA-565.90.1008-win1011.exe

Support 3060M and 3080M MXM for M17XR4 , M18XR2

 

 

Moderator Note: YMMV 

Hi,

That's impressive!

Where do the cards come from?

On 10/14/2024 at 8:14 PM, ssj92 said:

GP106 Compute card

RTX 3000 (Aetina/AdLink)

RTX 5000 (HP)

 

Can all work with SG mode but limited to DX11 and older titles. 

 

I have RTX 5000 working in M18xR1 

Yeah so it's not 100% working.

Did you get the RTX to work on R1 in PEG using an nvidia primary GPU (like an old 560m gtx) for the internal screen?

980m is super fragile as it gets really hot, plus power rail is underrated (not enough MOSFET for a 100W TDP+ card) so usually the card dies quite quickly.

1060s are much better (run cooler, faster, gen 10...). MSI 1060 mxm can be grabbed for "cheap" on aliexpress (~150e), they are much better than the gecube version. Gecube will also do fine as long as you don't mess with TDP.

Zotac mxm version should be avoided as they miss a temperature resistor so fan will either not work (alienware, dell, HP) or run at 100% (msi, clevo). On alienware you can force fan with hwinfo64 so it's still ok.

They do work perfectly fine with OPTIMUS. You don't need a custom bios but Unlocked BIOS gives you some valuable options (overclock, XMP...)

You will have to inf mod the nvidia drivers, that's all! 🙂

On 8/5/2024 at 8:42 AM, DuckW said:

Thanks guys, looks like I will go with the M17x R4. Just love the design, now time to look at GPU upgrade options. It seems like another deep rabbit hole 😁.

 

 

R4 is better than 17R1. Upgrade options are roughly the same although R4 does not struggle with RTX upgrade (17r1 and 18r1 have a TDP glitch with quadro RTX from PNY). Plus R4 motherboard is stronger than Ranger's (quality of CMS, power rail from CPU, MXM power...)

4930mx is marginaly faster than 3920xm so CPU wise, there's virtually no difference.

17R1 screen replacement is way easier though, as R4 has the damn glass cover with 3M tape...

On 9/25/2024 at 1:35 PM, Lex_Amorph said:

Thank you, friends. So, looks like, with this card I haven't chance on my M17x R3 to use DX12. But I was close, I even start this games, but very slow ) I also have M18x R1, try your method, ssj92, with GF 560m and something like rtx 2060, but I have dead battery, and not sure, if my bios is unlocked.

go into the BIOS. If you have thourough ADVANCED options availables, it means BIOS is unlocked.

Unfortunately with the R3, your best best is 880M GTX. Any card above 880m won't work perfectly.

Your best shot would be to order R4 motherboard and swap it. At least with the R4, there's no limitation.

6 hours ago, cookieoreo18 said:

So i have an Alienware 17 R1 with a GTX 980M and 240W PSU. The GPU recently started crashing the entire computer during gaming and sometimes it wouldn't totally crash but give me Nvlddmkm error and after a restart disappear from the device manager and then require some restarts to get it back to show.
So now im looking to upgrade to a better card. I have the 60Hz display. Is it possible to upgrade to a 1070, a P4000 or any other better card without having to go with the 120Hz display?

hi,

yes you can upgrade easily with the 60Hz screen, as you have NVIDIA OPTIMUS.

Best options are 1060 gtx (~150€), 1070 gtx (~200€), or even quadros P3000/4000/5000. You can even go with 2060 RTX (quadro rtx 3000) but it ain't cheap (350€+).

Changing screen to an EDP screen would reduce the spectrum of options (as cards absolutely need good vbios with edp activated) but would give you a much better screen than the old TN 60Hz LVDS, altough a lesser battery life (as optimus is inhibited).

the one without SLI connector is MSI GTX 680m. It's not a dell card. But you could crossflash vbios

it looks bad. Do you have ch341A? You could reflash the main bios with it. I strongly recommand to reflash same bios revision with a clean bin file.

Which bios did you have?

hi,

did you try to clear CMOS?

Worst case scenario you need CH341A to reflash the main bios chip

cool! what was the problem? What did you do to get it working?

On 12/24/2023 at 12:38 AM, aldarxt said:

OK I just got a new RTX 3000 from the Orient and stuck it in mt m17x r4 120hz 3D screen and got 8 beeps. I made sure it was in PEG mode. Did DDU shutdown and swapped out my Precious 4gb GTX 680m and then thought maybe I broke the card cause it is a thicker die and sat higher in the chassis, just a little where the back panel cover was sticking out. So swapped back the GTX 680m and put the RTX 3000 in my regular m17x r4 1600x900 easy to read screen and works perfectly. Am now getting ready to stress out 3DMark with benchmarks. Just wanted to give jerryzago a heads up on what he might be in for with the 120hz 3D screen

As far as I know, RTX3k will only work with optimus as the edp channel on the card is not the right one...

So you need LVDS screen and SG mode. Then it will work.

well, that's weird indeed for the 980m. You should try dell vbios on it. Fortunately maxwell gen can crossflash vbios easily.

Silly question: did you try throttlestop & uncheck BD_PROCHOT? Sometimes it's the solution to strange throttling behaviour...

For the tesla m6, I'm pretty confident that unlocked BIOS & SG parameter should do the trick. Tesla m6 is a really good card but needs to be driven via OPTIMUS.

I don't remember if it was p3000 or p4000 that I tried, and IIRC it was with some O/C vbios I got from macrumors... I don't have any quadro car atm, nor any working AW laptop... I should get an m17x r4 so I'm gonna try a 1060 6GB with it, along with O/C vbios & edp screens (144hz & 300hz I have)

On 3/19/2024 at 12:00 AM, kela-slk said:

Hi. What version vbios need for install gtx980m to alienware 17 (m17x r5 ranger) ?

My bios 84.04.22.00.10 is stuck if Furmark enabled Anti Aliasing, and if it off - in stress test maximum core clock not higher than 650-700mhz. Must be 1038-1127 clock. In superposition benchmark 950-1000mhz. I think need another vbios

 

And who is try install Tesla m6 in alienware ranger? I install but not visible in bios or device manager any discreet card... 

hi, your 980m is throttling, most probably due to heat / power. Look on gpuz sensors and see the perf cap reason, that should give you a clue about what's going wrong.

You might try some other vbios, IIRC you can get unlocked vbios on on techinferno

About the tesla m6, it works but SG must be set on in BIOS (optimus mode on). It will not work at all with 120hz screen. If it does not show, either card is defective, or you need to do a full bios reset (take the coin cell out).

1 hour ago, ÊtaPegasus said:

I'm actually running the 60Hz screen, so i will be in SG mode anyway.

Considering this, the RTX 3000 would be a better option than the GTX 1070?

 

If you stick with 60Hz screen, then yes, RTX3k is definitely THE better choice

19 hours ago, ÊtaPegasus said:

A quick question for all the benchmark holics, what would be the "best" upgrade for the 17 R1 :

- Standard Gtx 1070 for under 300€? @Naberius what is your feedback on yours? Who was your vendor on eBay?

- Quadro P5000? Quite expensive, almost double the 1070 price (~550€), can't see how te 16Gb of vRAM are worth 250€ ^^

- HP Quadro RTX3000/4000?i found an RTX 3000 for under 300€. Can someone explain what chassis modification i would need? Doe the heatsink need to be modified too?

 

Thanks for all your feedback!

 

 

Hi mate,

If you wanna stick with 120hz, screen, you may cross RTX as they won't work on internal screen. P3200/4200/5200 need soldered bios chip & I'm not sure whether they would work in PEG so I'd stay away from them.

I'd definitely go for 1070, which ha in my opinion a much better price/perf ratio than the p5000.

You might also find some cheap p4000, and I found once an overclocked vbios for it (maybe coming from @TheQuentincc IIRC), that was nearly on par with stock 1070

hi SapphiraTriX298,

do you live in the US / Canada or in Europe?

I'd be interested in the 4TB ssd if you live in Europe (to avoid customs taxes).

Thank you

10 hours ago, aldarxt said:

P4000 8 Beeps, if I do a cMos reset I won't be able to go into BIOS

2 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

I don't know what I am doing wrong, my m17xr4 doesn't work with anything I put in it

do you have the unlocked BIOS in it? Have you tried to reset CMOS?

I definitely think it's a vbios issue.

7 hours ago, rusvon said:

Since I will be installing a 120Hz screen, I need to choose Pascal cards. Even though you said that Pascals do not work at 120hz, in any case, 120hz, 144hz etc. from these screens. I need to install one. This is my primary goal.

The reason I chose M17x instead of M18x was to make a device with a high screen refresh rate. He also disagrees with the idea that 880m and above cards will not support edp 120hz. Many articles with the 1070 installed have already stipulated the use of the EDP 120hz display feature. I don't understand the purpose of claiming the exact opposite.

Pascal cards do work with edp screen on R4:

https://www.nbrchive.net/xfa/alienware-17-and-m17x.1079/Alienware m17x R4 GTX1070 mxm successful upgrade/

7 hours ago, aldarxt said:

So why would I go with an EDP instead of LVDS? Don't more cards work with LVDS and there is a 2nd screen connector next to the 1 being used. I don't remember what that 1 is for. Since RTX 3000/4000/5000 all work with LVDS or in order to have higher screen HZ it has to be EDP?

The second connector on the MB is for edp. The cable is 40pin 0.5mm pitch so most edp screens should work (except the narrow 0.4mm ones that may need an adapter). But the problem is the fitting as the 3D screen has same layout as LVDS (big metal frame with side mountings) whereas new edp screens are all slim type with top/bottom mounting tabs (or without any tabs at all). In any case it has to be DIY mounting with 3M rubber tape. But it works 🙂