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America appears to be in a state of soft civil war, obviously a bad condition and trajectory. All those guys on both sides are doing is sowing further division instead of trying to build some sort of consensus which is required to move forward and actually deal with the major challenges at hand. A failed USA led by a shifty and intellectually challenged isolationist billionaire might just get leveraged by the new Axis in a way which could result in a collapse of the entire Western democratic civilization, and a rather unpleasant new world order. One would hope America should be able to do much better than that. If a sizeable majority can agree on woke, surely there is room for a broader compromise on a range of important issues.

More good news on the new ACE Z690 board: * No more coil whine in AIDA64 * My SK Hynix M-Die is running super-stable at 5200@30-38-38-38-70 CR2 79GB/s transfer, 76ns latency - by far the fastest 128GB config I've seen posted BTW AM5 users tend to reluctantly air punch once they get this running at 4800MHz:

Actually, looks like a petulant response to BBC making Twitter access opt-in recently. Whenever there is an article referring to some Twitter BS, there is just a window asking "Do you want to enable Twittter content?" :)

Same story in the UK: BBC account branded as state-funded, although the organisation is independent from the government. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65226481 Clearly those are attempts to discredit the media which cannot be easily controlled by private interest groups.

Just watched a few bits. Unfortunately, the guy immediately came across as a bit of a simpleton trying to start a flame war (apologies for any misrepresentation). Why pit gamers against HW enthusiasts? BTW Seriousness tends to be highly subjective, and not sure gaming is the best reference point for that. Why would, say, reducing system temps by 2C be any less serious than levelling from level 457 to 458 in WoW, by way of a random example.. At least at the end of the day a better tuned PC can do more more (sometimes serious) work more quietly. The closing comment was just sad, I guess aimed at impressing 12 years old audience?

My 13900K developed a simillar issue (first 2 then 3 100C "rogue cores") after months of heavy use. I suppose the difference is that the problem occurred suddenly after extended use, but the similarity is that I suspect it was caused by a mobo modification resulting in IHS bend and bad fit. Anyway, the problem got solved by delidding the CPU and replacing the IHS. The root cause is gigantic heat flux those CPUs push out, which necessitates a high performance cooling solution with perfect heatsink/IHS fit, and we all know what that looks like in laptops. I've used PTM7950, in fact I'm using it right now on the die, and it's working very well. I guess it might be worth very gently lapping the heatsink, if at all possible, in order to improve the fit while avoiding a further reduction in heatsink pressure. I'm relatively happy with the performance of the CPU now. It can handle 220W load at about 85C. This is with a 360 AIO modded with 6 120mm 3000 RPM 100cfm+ fans running at about 2000-2400 RPM at that load. Good luck on the laptop side bro... Google "13900K rogue core delid" for further info.

That is by far the safer/healthier way to game. Many single player games / campaigns today tend to be boring afterthoughts one would struggle to endure until the end, with very little replayability that could pose a risk (with some impressive exceptions of course).

You can play with your buddies only, no problem (in fact most regulars play that way). Need new online buddies? Relatively easy to find them. There is even a huge marketplace when you can trade items (no way to withdraw profits unfortunately). You can even go to an online CSGO school to learn/improve the plethora of techniques involved. Seasoned players get to be judges, where they are granted the privileged responsibility of reviewing footage from suspect ganes, passing verdicts on cheaters and getting them banned. Before too long there is a serious risk that CSGO becomes the victim's life lol

Right, MP games typically promote some sort of group/clan affiliation at higher levels, as teaming up with random people becomes pointless. However, CSGO has (had 2 years ago when I dropped out) a fairly good matchmaking system, so up to a certain (extremely high) level it can be soloed. The main draw is that it is easily the most difficult FPS, the social aspect is optional and with the gigantic pool of players, you are fairly unlikely to play with/against the same people often.

Online multilayer games are so addictive, they are the reason I avoid games altogether after developing a fairly severe CSGO habit. I'm too competitive lol As for the low settings and low res, I think CSGO (being the top eSport) may be unique in that regard, as people try to pursue every bit of edge possible. Also, a lot of the pros come from the earlier CSes where 1024x768 and modest image quality were the standard. The nice thing about CSGO is that it has a standard benchmark built-in. FPS fans prone to binging online should stay well away from this eCrack though.

This is done to boost FPS in competitive online shooters (and trigger a CPU bottleneck scenario) I was going to ask if @tps3443 has CSGO. Would be easily pushing 1000+ fps at 1024x768, a commonly used resolution there. :)

Good old Elon, doing his bit to support hostile autocratic and criminal super-power: Telegraph: Twitter lifts restrictions on Russian top government accounts Also always good to do a little blatant crypto manipulation again (pecunia non olet, as the Romans used to say): Dogecoin price falls after Twitter restores bird logo on home page What a guy!

Anything important or ground breaking? Are you being sarcastic with us? Just a few posts above bro @Mr. Fox's Banshee broke 5.8M in Antutu. I hope you do make time to review the remaining material properly sir! Happy Easter everyone :)

Sounds like you've got networking ISP/issues. I thought you mentioned you get the Internet from your apartment block landlord? I'm sure we'd all hear about Canada getting firewalled.

BTW I figured out what was wrong with Win 11 22H2, the installation of which was forced upon me. Now it goes nuts when it sees an eGPU, tries to install some different Nvidia drivers and the OS crashes shortly after logon lol. I tried blocking Windows 11 driver updates, and set the max 365 days deferral of feature updates local policy. Will be interesting to see what the future "bing powered" (with new code potentially written by AI to a large extent) versions of Windoze will be like.

Ah, an interesting trick. My concern is with touching the ILM at all. I wouldn't be able to re-attach it to factory spec if I needed to, and once reattached wrong, it might be causing all sorts of issues (primarily bad contact I guess, if not CPU bend). BTW Another influencer showing off Eddy's golden kit and "I love you so much, please give me a good review as discussed" note. I'm finding this really tacky if not dodgy. Either a review is 100% independent or it's worse than useless, since it can convince people to buy a faulty/dangerous product. At least they disclose the note, I guess the marketing idea is to portray Eddy as a nice guy, which might trick some into liking the product more as well. A less than perfect direct die heatsink/contact frame has the potential to cause the same issues. In that context, I would gladly pay EKWB for their golden product if the price reflected top and impeccable quality, and if the frame instructions specified the exact torque required to mount the frame, alas neither seems to be the case. The style is kind of cute if someone is into golden bling but irrelevant to me. BTW he shows "big gains" by comparing non-delidded to delidded setups lol, which is misleading. He also mentions and brushes off some "early teething problems", and delid tool issues which EK says are "one off or different to what they are aware of" which sounds really sleazy. Somehow, every influencer mentions "one off" delid tool issues. Why are they releasing a product with known issues in the first place? For now going by the "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rule. What is this? Who built it? How do you know there are no rootkits/backdoors? Tried to google and got a link to mega.nz lol I mean the retail premium is around $100, not $1000. You do get some benefits, like almost surely better bin, higher base power (and base clocks, which sometimes matters under crazy loads). The higher base power spec could translate to higher reliability. If the delidded K failed, I would get the KS, but indeed sleeping well at night knowing I haven't upgraded yet :) Yes bro, you are getting more bang for the buck with desktops, if your lifestyle setup is stationary enough for you to be able to use them...

Thanks, that clarifies it, we are past Intel's specs at this point :) MEG ACE is very similar to MEG Unify-X, just more AIO&PCIe vs 2-slot RAM basically, almost identical VRM setup. https://storage-asset.msi.com/datasheet/mb/global/MEG-Z690-UNIFY-X.pdf https://storage-asset.msi.com/datasheet/mb/global/MEG-Z690-ACE.pdf Yes, sounds like direct die might justify an upgrade from my current turbo-AIO setup, thanks for the earlier pump suggestions from @Mr. Fox and @Papusan BTW. However, it needs its own contact frame, and that's a red flag for me after the earlier contact frame fiasco. It'd be kind of a one-way street. I mean low eighties under full load (with fans nowhere near 100%) is nothing to worry about. Plus I am not benching per se, but rather optimising for sustained load, so I don't want to/cannot squeeze max power out of the system.

Where did you get those 320W and 311A ratings from? Intel specs just say 253W max turbo power again for 13900KS, with higher base power at 150W, up from 125W. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/232167/intel-core-i913900ks-processor-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz.html Anyway, the direct die route is tempting, now that my CPU is delidded, if only to further reduce temps from 80-85C currently under 100% load, not even on LM. The EK block looks problematic, but the one you picked seems fine. @Mr. Fox any reason you didn't want to use the same direct die block, and went with EK?

Nice. Would be really useful to know if the chip can survive extended loads of that kind (380W) with an excellent direct die cooling system at 80C. These guys are saying: no, since the high current is still a problem: Obviously not the whole story, since die size must be a factor, but unfortunately 13th gen die is fairly small in relation to the power involved. Looking a bit deeper, multiple mechanisms are involved, broadly: 1. High temps (ok, controlled with in a setup like @tps3443's) 2. Temp cycling - not a problem under constant load 3. Electromigration - sadly that's it, a function of the current unfortunately. The question would be to what extent running the CPU at 380W instead of the rated 250W would reduce reliability.

Great stuff. Yeah, I couldn't find any official advice to cure this product that way, as suggested I think mainly on reddit lol. It makes no sense, who would do that on an assembly line. For now the noname 7950 on the die + (Alphacool) Apex on the IHS setup is holding up as well, but expect Apex to degrade at some point. @ryan This is the laptop, right? https://support.hp.com/ca-en/document/c07006511 I would suggest you take it easy with benching on this. I was going to say "see if you can hook up an eGPU (a small step towards the desktop space)", unfortunately there is no TB port. There is a ton of stuff you can do on this device, just don't worry about pushing the envelope too much.

My guess is they will, but in general I find all this surprising. I could kind of understand occasional QC issues (although not really when it comes to water cooling rather expensive equipment) if they were a budget brand who are forced to cut corners here and there to deliver at an aggressive price point. On the contrary, seems that EKWB, a rather expensive brand, are big on marketing - Apple-grade packaging and huge reviews with hand written notes from the owner delivered by the likes of Linus, Jay etc. That's where at least some of the QC money must be going.

@Talon What curing process did you use for PTM7958 paste? I've read recommendations of 15h air curing which is a bit painful, hut also dubious. Doesn't sound llke a very practical process in an industrial setting. The shills can help them take some newbies, but they won't fool the regulars. A quick look through posts on OC reveals the typical commentary around EK is "err, get something better".

Anyone tried PTM7958 paste? What curing process did you use? I've read recommendations of 15h air curing which is a bit painful.

It's second-hand stuff so who knows why it is the way it is. Could have been a dud from the beginning, or could have taken some hard to spot damage at the hand(s) of previous owners. The fact that it was supposed a 2022 model but isn't tells us a lot about the seller.

Socket fail for sure, although looks like newer boards come with a better variant. No potentially destructive contact frame gimmick required.