Questions regarding my new Clevo P775TM1-G

[MiRaGe]

“Oh, and these are my settings (fastest, but at the same time riskiest”

 

You do really like to play on the edge, I like this😊

Thanks for all the info!

 

Wanted to ask you also - which drivers have you manually installed, besides those who are automatically installed by the Win 11?

 

Try OCCT for RAM O/C stability. You will be surprised, tRP 17 will throw errors.😉

 

Yeah…be prepared to see ton of errors in OCCT…

this memory or motherboard are not 100% stable at 3333MHz.

 

On 1/15/2023 at 10:58 AM, srs2236 said:

You can migrate with Acronis but you will need atleast another storage medium like atleast one SATA HDD or SSD.

 

Yeah, you switch in BIOS from AHCI to RST and then create RAID0 volume in BIOS. Then just install Windows and install latest RST software. I have updated my RST modules in my BIOS to the latest revisions.

 

In my BIOS I have:

Intel-RST_EFI-RaidDriver_v18.31.3.5434

Intel-RST_RAID-ROM_v18.35.0.4635

 

These are the latest I think that you can get for P775.

 

And on Windows currently I have:

I am not sure if there are performance differences between RST versions, but sometimes some claim there are.

 

Oh, and these are my settings (fastest, but at the same time riskiest):

 Can you tell me how did you manage to update RST EFI Raid driver and Raid ROM?

[srs2236]

Yeah, about 6 minutes in OCCT it starts throwing errors for me too. Thing is with my tREFI being so high it might be temperature related. I recently added a homemade heatsink for the RAM under back cover. I ran it till the first error, turned off PC unscrewed all the screws for back cover and then put my finger on the RAM stick to see how hot it is. The result - I couldn't leave my finger on it longer than 2 seconds because it was burning hot. I suspect while 1.45v is doing good things for stability under light load it is doing the opposite under heavy loads like stress tests. The RAM starts to overheat heavily and starts throwing errors. That could explain how I haven't had any memory related crash since I stuck with my timings like 5 or 6 months ago. I might be able to confirm this as I am still thinking of ways to improve my RAM cooling. It is very hard to add any kind of cooling for the RAM under they keyboard as there is no space for any copper heatsink. But I have some ideas.

 

About the drivers - it is a tough question... I believe I haven't looked for specific drivers except for audio drivers I have installed cracked version of Realtek drivers for Dolby Surround sound support. And the rest I think I have updated using a tool called SDI Tool. I like it as it is simple and works well for any sort of driver update. You can get it from here - https://sdi-tool.org/

 

For the RST EFI driver and OROM - well you need to have your BIOS dumped first. Download the latest versions from wherever you can find them (best source for this would be https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/intel-efi-raiddriver-bios-modules/23689). Then you can use the UBU Tools for replacing them in your BIOS file. UBU Tools is a pretty straight forward command line application that can do some BIOS mods easily for you without hassle. Search it on google and I am sure you will find it. After that you just flash your BIOS back to your machine and you are set!

 

If I was you and really wanted the most of my machine I would invest in a cheap CH431a programmer and next time when doing cleaning or disassembly of the laptop I would just either solder wires to the BIOS chip or just make case mod so that it can be accessed and flashed without much trouble and dissasembly of the laptop. Only then you can truly experiment with any kind of BIOS and modifications etc. For this reason I never guarantee nothing in software as to be honest I have never used software flashing so don't even know with what to start with lol.

[MiRaGe]

Can you point me out where can I find the cracked version of the Realtek drivers with Dolby Surround support?

Yeah, with two SN750 there is no big difference performance wise but is comfortable to have one drive letter for the two NVme drives:)

 

Non-RAID first pic, RAID0 second:

[MiRaGe]

Guys, which one to buy?

 

The first two are priced around 40€ on TaoBao, the last one is 200€ on AliExpress. 

I would really appreciate any help🙏🏻😊
 

 

 

[srs2236]

I don't have the link for that driver anymore unfortunately. I just searched on google so it might still be out there somewhere. It's a generic Realtek driver anyway. I am not sure if I even have it still on my PC as I haven't used the optical audio for a while. And with this driver I think the 3.5mm audio jack is broken.

[MiRaGe]

200W vBios, so far so good.

Next step - watercooling, hopefully 12K Graphics and 12K CPU.

For now this is the optimal stable O/C

 

 

[MiRaGe]

Only I don‘t understand why with 200W vBios I can‘t go past +700 vRam as I had fully stable +1000 with 150W vBios… Vram speed shouldn‘t be vbios related…

I hope it is because I am using single 330W PSU. Will se when I get the second one…

[srs2236]

23 minutes ago, MiRaGe said:

Only I don‘t understand why with 200W vBios I can‘t go past +700 vRam as I had fully stable +1000 with 150W vBios… Vram speed shouldn‘t be vbios related…

I hope it is because I am using single 330W PSU. Will se when I get the second one…

Appreciate the fact you can do OC on the memory at all =D

 

For my old RTX 2080, it had great core overclock like +150MHz but ABSOLUTE doggo VRAM overclock. I mean it was so horrible you did like 10MHz on the VRAM and it would artifact. Amazing silicon lottery on that one...

 

Also more stress on the core might make VRAM stability worse as far as I know.

[MiRaGe]

Hmm…I still think it‘s power related…

the day after tomorrow I will get second 330W PSU and A200 Adapter and will see what happens then.

[MiRaGe]

I think I am destroying stock and even OCed RTX 3070...

[srs2236]

Your adventures have inspired me to optimise my P775 a bit aswell! My changes can be seen in signature. Basically pushed my CPU undervolt even more and for GPU pushed more on Core rather than VRAM.

 

 

[MiRaGe]

Nice! Basically you are getting +1500pts more, both on Superposition and TimeSpy Graphics😊

I still do think with two 330W and the heatsink I bought from AliExpress for 20-series GPUs (Air, with 6 heatpipes for the CPU and 5 for the GPU - 3 common) I can reduce this difference to +1200pts which I would consider great success, taking in account that it costed me only 200€ for the heatsink😁

but your result is great from every side👍🏻

[srs2236]

3 minutes ago, MiRaGe said:

Nice! Basically you are getting +1500pts more, both on Superposition and TimeSpy Graphics😊

I still do think with two 330W and the heatsink I bought from AliExpress for 20-series GPUs (Air, with 6 heatpipes for the CPU and 5 for the GPU - 3 common) I can make this difference +1200pts which I would consider great success, taking in account that it costed me only 200€ for the heatsink😁

but your result is great from every side👍🏻

Keep us updated on your adventures! I am interested in whether or not that second PSU will be of any difference. I have thought of this myself and realised my system has to be pushing pretty close to that 330W limit.

 

And yesterdays CPU undervolt turned out to not be stable ;( Undervolting can be weird, passes 30min stability test in cinebench and then later during the night crashes out of nowhere during idle... Today I tried OCCT and it detected errors much quicker than cinebench so I will see what can I get out of it.

[MiRaGe]

Today:

 

 

[srs2236]

I put a 145mV undervolt on my CPU thinking it was stable today. I ran all OCCT CPU stress tests it passed. Ran Cinebench R23 it passed. Ran Aida64 CPU stress test it passed. Ran Blender benchmark no problems there. Everything was working fine but because I wanted to be 100% it's stable I looked online and for the first time downloaded Prime95.

 

Put simply, it absolutely demolished and tortured my CPU to the point where it was only stable with 100mV undervolt. As sad as it is I am going to stick with this one as final. It is just so sad because I have such a CPU thermal throttling issue its insane.

 

Going from 9900K to 9900KS is even dumber than going from 2080 to 3080. There is no chance to have this CPU under control in terms of thermals. Oh well...

[MiRaGe]

Yes, my 9900K is also -100 UV, -105 and it is already unstable. 
K=>KS is not worth you are right!

Also 30-series heatsink from AliExpress is builded worst than 20-series one. It has only 4-heatpipes (two are shared) for the CPU against 6 (3 shared). 

I expect the 20-series heatsink to reduce the temps by good 10 degrees celsius.

Actually there is a way to keep it under control thermally, but you need to go water.

 

[srs2236]

1 hour ago, MiRaGe said:

Yes, my 9900K is also -100 UV, -105 and it is already unstable. 
K=>KS is not worth you are right!

Also 30-series heatsink from AliExpress is builded worst than 20-series one. It has only 4-heatpipes (two are shared) for the CPU against 6 (3 shared). 

I expect the 20-series heatsink to reduce the temps by good 10 degrees celsius.

Actually there is a way to keep it under control thermally, but you need to go water.

 

Yeah, I noticed aswell that the 20-series design looked better. It is a shame that I decided to go with the 3080 route =D As you can see yourself the difference is not so big at all. It's almost like the real big difference is the VRAM size but that is it.

 

4090 on the other hand could be completely different story. Have to wait for the release!

 

I am now sometimes thinking about whether or not I should have gone water route... I took the non-water version in hopes that it will have more copper mass but I am even not sure if thats the case or not.

[runix18]

10 hours ago, srs2236 said:

Yeah, I noticed aswell that the 20-series design looked better. It is a shame that I decided to go with the 3080 route =D As you can see yourself the difference is not so big at all. It's almost like the real big difference is the VRAM size but that is it.

 

4090 on the other hand could be completely different story. Have to wait for the release!

 

I am now sometimes thinking about whether or not I should have gone water route... I took the non-water version in hopes that it will have more copper mass but I am even not sure if thats the case or not.

I think we will have no more MXM from Clevo from now on. For example they`r flagship X370SNx-G is a BGA crapola... so bleak news for MXM. 

In conclusion the age of barebones is over.

[MiRaGe]

Yes, I‘ve heard this from many sides, it‘s true, unfortunately…

[MiRaGe]

Firestrike +160 Core/+700 mem:

 

Second shot: +160 Core/+1000 mem

 

This is before 2x330W PSU. To be continued...:)

[MiRaGe]

+170 core/+1000 mem - 1st shot

+175 core/+1000 mem - 2nd shot

It's obvious there are power limit problems - CPU pts decreases with more GPU OC.

[MiRaGe]

@srs2236 can you tell me how long did it take until they shipped your heatsink from AliExpress out?

It‘s been already three days and status still shows „to be sent“…

[srs2236]

8 hours ago, MiRaGe said:

@srs2236 can you tell me how long did it take until they shipped your heatsink from AliExpress out?

It‘s been already three days and status still shows „to be sent“…

Ooh,I don't remember anymore... But I think it is normal so you just unfortunately have to wait. 

[MiRaGe]

I don't think I can do better on TimeSpy...:

+160/+800 stable

DX12 make the GPU more vulnarable to O/C...

Under DX11 I can get +175/+1000...

[1610ftw]

On 2/3/2023 at 8:49 PM, MiRaGe said:

I don't think I can do better on TimeSpy...:

+160/+800 stable

DX12 make the GPU more vulnarable to O/C...

Under DX11 I can get +175/+1000...

 

Very close to 3Dmark top 10, currently you would sit in 17th place.

 

So excellent job overall with even the top 5 only being 2.5 to 3.5% away and the first place is somebody with a desktop motherboard so that one does not even count, @johnksssis really the first placed laptop score: