*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Talon said:

@Papusan

 

Looks like MSI Afterburner author fixed the Maxwell voltage lock in latest release!  
 

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

Yep, I saw this earlier today. I expect Unwinder had to re-evaluate what he said to me about scrapping any support for cards that still have driver support from Nvidia. I brought up this topic a few weeks ago... Here MSI AB / RTSS development news thread

 

 Offer no support for MSI branded cards "OC cards loose it's value" (MSI pay his bills) that still isn't EOL'ed by nvidia is quite special, sooo.

58 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Okay. I really need a White 4090 in my life right about now. @Papusan how’s that Galax HOF 4090 treating you? Good GPU? 

I really like the card. But haven't had much time with it. All too much older HW I enjoy play with. Then we have illness in the family that takes our time (slow dying from cancer). The doctors stopped treatments due health can't handle it anymore. Hard time for the fam. So that's that.

 

I also need buy a second PSU so I have enough power connectors for everything I want in the desktop without the need to diconnect the cables in and out from the PSU for the HOF everytime I play with the old. This is the only drawback I have with with the HOF (dual 12VHPWR connector). This increase the whole cost of the card.

 

40 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The old version of MSI Afterburner maxed out below my stock core frequency maximum on the 4090 so it was utterly worthless before.

I mean you could edit this in the config file to increase Max clock speed limit.

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Talon said:

@Papusan

 

Looks like MSI Afterburner author fixed the Maxwell voltage lock in latest release!  
 

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

LOL, gotta love the tacky Afterburner Windows 11 skin from Derex. The dark one is crappy enough, but the white one made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Truly disgusting feces. I just don't know what is wrong with people. LOTS of wasted space in the UI that just hogs up your screen and adds no value on top of looking like crap. The fetish for ugly software GUIs started with Windowz 8 and it just gets worse with every version update. Totally ridiculous.

[Mr. Fox]

20 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I mean you could edit this in the config file to increase Max clock speed limit.

I did not know you could. I have used mostly EVGA Precision X1 for GPU overclocking for several years because it has historically been a better utility for me.

[Vasudev]

20 hours ago, Ashtrix said:

Sad news.

 

While I'm waiting for the Cablemod to arrive and thinking about getting Seagate 4TB FireCuda 530.

 

My Alienware 17R1 Ranger seems to be going down.

 

 

It never had any problems aside from the 980M I have which has MOSFET issue and grey screen / black screens. I don't play anything on this machine anymore as I have the new one prepped up. Anyways the system just hard shuts off. Only Dota2 with friends that's a low load on GPU and higher load on CPU.

 

Initially I thought it is happening due to some GPU issue so I tried to re-paste everything with the Noctua Thermal Paste I had. And tried to run heavy Unigine Heaven and Fire Strike it shut off after some time so I was sure it is the GPU. Then using Nvidia Inspector (Maxwell so can control Clock rate and Power) and limited Power capped to 70% only. Still failing. Then reduced Clocks to even lower by 500MHz on Core.

 

Tried ordering new 240W PSU, tried the Dell 330W as well, but Delta one is discontinued and ordered new Dell GaN 330W one with smaller footprint but thinner cable (apparently the quality on these not good as cable may break faster)  assuming it would work but it was shipping late so 240W brand new came in fast. And no dice, the machine shut off flat out. So no PSU issue (have the Dell 330W which I purchased 7 years back, so yea that thing is bulletproof it works solid)

 

Still the sudden shutdowns continued while playing, then I tried to reduce the Dota2 resolution even lower to 720P. And still happened later I used Throttlestop to reduce the clocks to pitiful 2.5GHz on all 4 Cores from 3.5GHz, remember this was happening since 15-20 days so end of March to April. Later stabilized and now the GPU is power capped to just 30% lol and 810MHz negative Clock rate offset, so I thought the CPU VRMs or something else at play.

 

Eventually it happened, the shutdown happened on normal torrent workload basic workload no GPU at all. Sometimes it happens when I'm watching a video or something it's random now.

 

Then I ordered DC Power Jack from Parts-people, I remember them since NBR days. Well it came on Sunday and I was glad to see no Shut off but today right after work, it again happened.

 

So to note

- No Overheating of any component (GPU, CPU)

- No heating around DC Jack area with both new and old parts.

- PCH also stays normal no overheat (it only heats up to 79C when 980M goes to 78C  (80C it GPU hard lock due to 980M issues) which does not happen at all.

- PSU is perfectly fine

- TRON lighting is also fine no issues

- Soundcard is fine

- All SATA ports work, ODD to HDD also works.

- RJ45 Ethernet port works fine, I get super high speed data without issues

- USB ports work (one on the daughter board is 2.0 only from 3.0 not a big deal)

- Display works no artifacts no nothing.

- RAM is fine I guess ? GSkill 2133MHz premium memory.

- Both fans work perfectly fine.

- KB works without issues, Touchpad too

-Visually and Physically the laptop is very good as I do not use the KB at all.

- Lid is like brand new no sratches, the heavy MG alloy.

- Exoskeleton is also as is no dremels no nothing.

- CPU die and GPU die do not have any cracks or scratches or chipping.

- Heatsinks do not have any issues either.

 

 

I tried running Aida Stress tests, it does not crash flat out or cause massive throttling either. One more thing is once it shuts off, I press power button it does not start. I have to wait like at-least 10-30 mins sometimes else it would shut off before going to Windows.

 

Any ideas guys ? @Papusanbro any thing from your side as you still own this beauty ?

 

I do not know where can I even try to send this to diagnose it. I mean it's been 9 years with the machine, I got it in 2014.  Maybe the power management ICs or something on the Mobo are dying, unfortunate as I like this machine and have some old memories attached to it. I was planning to get the P5200 too as its a 1:1 fit with Revision B which has BIOS chip and I even archived the BIOS needed for that 1080 class GPU.

 

Very sad news.

 

Now I need some portable machine a laptop as I cannot rely on a Desktop when I go mobile to other places or out of country etc, and I checked the laptop scene, honest too god, what the actual F is with the whole industry, every single pile of BGA junk is overpriced to moon and the HW they are giving is pathetic dog feces use and throw BS. Plus none of them have Metal if they have they are super thin garbage like AW or Razer which is like INR 246,767-4000 expensive. And 99.9% of them use Tripod garbage and VC is rare only Razer does.

 

I can challenge not a single BGA junktop can last 5 years let alone 9 years of heavy usage of torrents, gaming what not. And sadly not a single Socketed machine exists.  I should have bought a mint condition Dell Precision M6800 on ebay when I had chance....now I only see bro @electrosoft is selling one machine on the marketplace.. (nvm RIP that is also sold, even more sad now...all hope lost) all the BGA new gamer jockeys  they all cost over INR 123,384+-2000-4000 for Mobile Alder Lake you have 12700H which is a BGA but it has 6P Cores uber castrated nonsense, Desktop LGA1700 12700K i7 has 8P cores.  I wont even waste time on he Nvidia BS GPUs (3060 6GB mobile turd, my 980M has 8GB wtf) inside them.

 

Laptops went to sewage. Clevo abandoned everything, Area 51M is a joke as the DGFF was going up in flames and their GaN charger cable wont even last like my Delta 330W PSU.

 

Oh while I'm at it, Razer is selling same laptop spec as the above one, which was Lenovo Legion 5 Gen 5/7 (apparently better BGA junk of all due to metal body and lid, not base and somewhat ok pricing ?) and the cost is literally INR 82,256 extra for same HW. INR 180,963 approx that Macbook rip off design with VC heatsink costs INR 82,256 I guess. Then you have ASUS garbage rubbish, and all others belong to dumpster ? maybe even landfill is worthless as it will ruin the land. Oh those Macbooks ? remember muh ARM superiority once Alder Lake launched that was destroyed with Zen mobile and more even worse plus Apple charges a ton for all welded garbage and ofc you can get those M series joker processors which will be outdated the next instant new one arrives unlike x86 processors.

 

Sorry for mega rant and such a long post I'm just diswsapointed in the industry and humanity due to this use and throw garbage culture everywhere, the mice are having li-ion batteries now... I use G305 which has AA slot and I use Eneloop AAA rechargable with AA adapter... I digress. Saddest part is about the way how things are going for the ever reliable Alienware 17 and the only ones who can understand are the NBR folks, now NBT folks.

 

 

Did have the same issue on my echo model. What was missing from nvidia driver was optimus profile and after that sudden powercut/blackscreen went away. Also, after spectre patches whenever laptop goes to sleep it never recovers. It happens on latest BIOS which disabled undervolt but also limited the max voltage CPU can use. But the sleep of death still persists and the echo model doesn't have Modern Standby. Anyway the CPU temps is same like undervolted one after I replaced the paste wth TG Carbonaut.

I do not know of a gaming laptop i.e w/o compromise, there is no choice now. You go with 18" massive laptops with inflated model names that won't come near their desktop counterparts. Just got my sister a thinkpad L14 and it has upgradable SODIMMs, 2242 SSD PCIe4, Ryzen Pro 5875U and replaceable Wifi card. Had extended the warranty to 3Y. Only downside was 2242 SSD instead of 2280. It was a good compromise as opposed to LPDDR4/LPDDR5 soldered RAM, Soldered Wifi and 2280 SSD.

[tps3443]

New version of 4090 die is shipping? Possibly better silicon?

 

 

https://amp.hothardware.com/news/nvidia-releases-4090-die-with-lower-voltage

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I did not know you could. I have used mostly EVGA Precision X1 for GPU overclocking for several years because it has historically been a better utility for me.

Here... [Official] NVIDIA RTX 4090 Owner's Club

 

Change etc both lines in the config file to...

 

VFCurveEditorMinFrequency = 1000
VFCurveEditorMaxFrequency = 3500

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

New version of 4090 die is shipping? Possibly better silicon?

 

 

https://amp.hothardware.com/news/nvidia-releases-4090-die-with-lower-voltage

Those etc with 4090FE was locked out using older vbios (No more 1.1V vbios). Stuck with 1.070. I expect the same will be also for the custom AIC cards. You can't cross flash to a better vBios anymore. So....... Nvidia make it easier for you.

 

 

This won't change the silicon lottery. Only lock you out from use of other and/or better firmware.

 

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Btw. Within 1.5 week and we are in last spring months before the summer. The winter coming back for the tenth time. I hate it!! And after short summer we are looking forwards to Oct and full winter for 2023/24. 

 

The heat is only "springtime" - now it's winter again

 

- There is relatively much rain and low-pressure activity that controls the weather. They will also receive rainfall every day going forward. The difference is that the mild weather we have now will be much colder from Friday and Saturday. The low temperatures will mean that precipitation comes as snow showers and a generally wintry type of weather again

[Vasudev]

20 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Here... [Official] NVIDIA RTX 4090 Owner's Club

 

Change etc both lines in the config file to...

 

VFCurveEditorMinFrequency = 1000
VFCurveEditorMaxFrequency = 3500

Those etc with 4090FE was locked out using older vbios (No more 1.1V vbios). Stuck with 1.070. I expect the same will be also for the custom AIC cards. You can't cross flash to a better vBios anymore. So....... Nvidia make it easier for you.

 

 

This won't change the silicon lottery. Only lock you out from use of other and/or better firmware.

Will it affect your HoF galax 4090? Say a BIOS update that locks out max frequency to favor the new stepping/die changes? I hope this doesn't start a trend to buy the same model GPUs with more pricing due to better optimization/die stepping.

[Papusan]

11 minutes ago, Vasudev said:

Will it affect your HoF galax 4090? Say a BIOS update that locks out max frequency to favor the new stepping/die changes?

Nope. Desktop HW ain't as Jokebook HW. And the silicon is a new revision and need another vbios. This doen't affect older cards. Only vbios changes will come (new firmware) if there is a major flaws with older silicon. Or security vulnerabilities that can't be fixed with drivers/OS. 

 

And I expect the HOF cards is the last one that will be crippled by the AIC partners or Nvidia themself (with drivers). Nvidia castrated the voltage sliders for Maxwell cards with driver changes. Aka = Disgusting changes on still supported Nvidia graphics cards.

[ryan]

Winter. Speaking of which it's snowing now.. till May then winter again I feel for you brother @Papusan

[Mr. Fox]

There is always an upside and a downside when it comes to weather. The idea that such a thing as perfect weather exists is fake, because it depends on the person experiencing it. What it allows you to do that you enjoy, or keeps you from doing that you would enjoy if not for the weather, is what determines whether or not the weather is "good" on an individual perspective. That perspective can change as rapidly as the weather as well. What you want to do today might not be what you want to do tomorrow, and if the weather interferes with that it sucks.

 

I like it to be cold (below freezing) and very dry (no snow or ice, and no humidity,) with no clouds and no wind. Kind of like the inside of a chest freezer with the lid closed and the lamp switch stuck in the on position.

[Raiderman]

We had an inch of snow on the ground here in Idaho, two days ago. Local radio guy calls it global warming when it snows this late. 🤣

 

Getting closer to saying.....eff it, and purchase the Taichi 7900xtx

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Raiderman said:

We had an inch of snow on the ground here in Idaho, two days ago. Local radio guy calls it global warming when it snows this late. 🤣

Climate change occurs at least four times a year in most places. Global warming starts in Spring and lasts until Fall. And, the human race has no say in the matter. But, we like to flatter ourselves and pretend our silly agendas matter. Believing in a hoax makes it real, right?

2 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Getting closer to saying.....eff it, and purchase the Taichi 7900xtx

If that is what you want, then it is probably worth a little bit more versus settling for something less to save a few bucks.  If you can pay for it, then I'd say go for it. Just don't feed the scalpers. They don't deserve to eat. Let 'em go dumpster diving. If they get really hungry, they can eat their overpriced inventory or dump it for less than they paid for it to buy groceries.

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Getting closer to saying.....eff it, and purchase the Taichi 7900xtx

 

In regards to the Taichi 7900xtx, as long as it is retail and not scalpy prices, if you want it get it. 🙂 With my 4090, I knew the only two models I wanted (Suprim X Liquid or FE in that order) and just waited till it was back to retail and picked it up. I don't regret it at all (Like I did the KPE 3090ti a smidge).

 

 

[Raiderman]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Climate change occurs at least four times a year in most places. Global warming starts in Spring and lasts until Fall. And, the human race has no say in the matter. But, we like to flatter ourselves and pretend our silly agendas matter. Believing in a hoax makes it real, right?

If that is what you want, then it is probably worth a little bit more versus settling for something less to save a few bucks.  If you can pay for it, then I'd say go for it. Just don't feed the scalpers. They don't deserve to eat. Let 'em go dumpster diving. If they get really hungry, they can eat their overpriced inventory or dump it for less than they paid for it to buy groceries.

In the radio personalities case, he was being ultra sarcastic. He would say, "well we woke up to 1 inch of global warming this morning", "and there is a possibility of another inch of global warming during the day today"

 

I will miss Windows 7 after upgrading the GPU....RIP. Might as well p*** up a rope, thanks to microcrap and their gestapo tactics. Definitely going to replace her with a Linux distro.

 

Found these at Newegg. Probably not as good of quality as cablemod, but will pick some up.

 

[Papusan]

12 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Found these at Newegg. Probably not as good of quality as cablemod, but will pick some up.

Can't do much wrong with old 8pin connectors😎 I would be more careful if this was the newer 12VHPWR ADAPTER for $10 USD.

 

13900KS SP117 (P129 E95 MC87) only $1,500 USD. No, thanks. If this was the last Cpu for socket 1700 and next socket + chips coming spring 2024 ( a year from now)... Maybe but nope. 

[electrosoft]

4 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Can't do much wrong with old 8pin connectors😎 I would be more careful if this was the newer 12VHPWR ADAPTER for $10 USD.

 

13900KS SP117 (P129 E95 MC87) only $1,500 USD. No, thanks. If this was the last Cpu for socket 1700 and next socket + chips coming spring 2024 ( a year from now)... Maybe but nope. 

 

I wouldn't even pay that day 1 especially being a FnF crapshoot and no idea how good the IMC is or where it craps out. That is a pure SP gamble.

 

I'll bin some CPUs when I can usually 2-4 tops. I get what I get. I've targeted a few binned chips before but they were at or near former retail (or lower) at the time.

 

Those "in the moment," will pay serious coin for good silicon and I get it....but for myself? No thanks.

[Etern4l]

Hang in there friends, some good news for us consumers, finally. Don't pay any scalpers off! 

 

TSMC Expects Q2 Sales Drop as Clients Struggle to Clear Inventory

 

[Papusan]

10 hours ago, Etern4l said:

Hang in there friends, some good news for us consumers, finally. Don't pay any scalpers off! 

 

TSMC Expects Q2 Sales Drop as Clients Struggle to Clear Inventory

 

Doesn't help much if the manufacturers rather reduce the production over reducing the awful prices. The minor changes down (2-5%) is nothing to be exited about. Mem makers already do the same. Reduce the production to stop losses. Same for ssd makers. They all use the same recipe to keep up max profits.

 

Let's take an example... 4090$1600 -3% is still above 1550$. If you can't buy it at 1600 then you will centenly not buy it at 1552$. The difference is minor or almost nothing. 

 

Or the 4080$1199 minus 3%  or slight above $1160. This is a Joke.

 

All newer cards should have slashed the prices with minimum $100 to have an effect for the buyers. Even then the 4080 will offer almost no value vs performance due disgusting prices. $1099 is still damn perverse for a xx80 class card.

 

And Nvidia have the needed replacement for miners so why produce more card for the gamers for less profits? The Gamers will come back when they see they need newer cards to play their newest games. 

NVIDIA Could be Reducing RTX 4070 GPU Production, Palit Card Price Cut Reported in UK

NVIDIA's fresh faced GeForce RTX 4070 graphic card range has not been flying off shelves around the world, and Team Green could be pivoting their approach somewhat after receiving lower than expected sales figures via company reports. Their component suppliers have already mentioned that the entire GeForce RTX 40 family is on a comfortably steady production schedule - with no instructions received from HQ to up the ante. In the latest development this week, individuals with insider knowledge of factory schedules in China have claimed that NVIDIA has informed board partners (AICs) that output for the GeForce RTX 4070 line is getting paused for a month. The temporary cutoff in factory output will allow, they hope, for the currently sitting stock to get cleared out. A substantial surplus of GeForce RTX 4070 cards could disrupt distribution networks and overstock warehouses.

Industry watchdogs have theorized that NVIDIA's board partners are having a difficult time offloading their premium tier RTX 4070 custom cards onto paying customers. The Founders Edition and closer-to-reference models have sold quite respectable numbers according to early analyses, but more expensive options are considered to be too expensive by the customer base. There is apparent crossover in pricing with the fancier GeForce RTX 4070 Ti range, and a savvy buyer will tend toward superior silicon rather than a shiny cooling solution combined with a factory-issued overclock. A computer hardware retailer in the UK, Novatech, has chosen to cut the price of a Palit RTX 4070 Dual model by £40/$50, as reported yesterday. The asking price has since returned closer to RRP - at the time of writing it stands at £579.98.

 

 

GPU Pricing Update, April 2023: Is the Nvidia RTX 4070 Another Flop?

 

 

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

I wouldn't even pay that day 1 especially being a FnF crapshoot and no idea how good the IMC is or where it craps out. That is a pure SP gamble.

 

I'll bin some CPUs when I can usually 2-4 tops. I get what I get. I've targeted a few binned chips before but they were at or near former retail (or lower) at the time.

 

Those "in the moment," will pay serious coin for good silicon and I get it....but for myself? No thanks.

 

Yep, all too late into the cycle for socket 1700. And if Intel make an 24 cores Raptor-Refresh you'll likely buy one at day one if you find one. 

 

I can't see any of the binned 13900KS will come close to an average Raptor-refresh. Intel need to do some major changes on power consumption for the refresh. As well come closer in gaming vs Ryzen X3D chips. This can be used for oc'ing. 

 

 

 

Btw.... @Mr. Fox

• AMD Radeon Graphics Drivers 23.4.2 WHQL

[Ashtrix]

On 4/19/2023 at 9:32 AM, Ashtrix said:

 

 

That is a good idea, it never struck me. Thank you !!

 

I have the 120Hz panel I was saving it for Pascal 1070 MSI or P5200. And the eDP cable too. But as of now its 60Hz LVDS panel is only installed.

 

So I did what you suggested did the MUX key combo fn+F5 and it asked me to reboot for switch and then the Dell ePSA Diagnostics worked (before when it was running on PEG only mode the ePSA won't boot, perhaps due to Custom vBIOS on 980M).

 

As @Mr. Fox asked about ePSA, yea it passed. The error was Battery not installed and so it says "One or more errors found" and displayed the failure, last pass was in 2016. But as I checked the results tab everything passed except the Battery so ePSA needs to pass every single test then only it may pass the machine as 100% pass. And this is not a thorough test but rather normal one I think in the deep test it runs deeper Memory tests.

 

So after booting into Windows 8.1 Enterprise 64Bit, when I right click as expected NVCP does not exist. But I tried to install the Intel HD 4600 Graphics drivers they were failing to start installation, I do not remember how to do this, I booted to the BIOS and put the Display Graphics to IGFX from SG...  But in Windows it did not change anything.

 

Tried older ones from Dell and they worked BUT it black screened and the OS display got corrupted lucky we have Unlocked BIOS so I flipped Video Adapter back to PEG mode and restored the OS which removed the bad Intel HD drivers.  Later ran DDU and removed the Nvidia drivers and now the Intel HD driver successfully installed. 980M does not show up as it says Microsoft Display Adapter and it shows.

 

 

That's expected I believe. Basically had to run DDU before, anyways no more 980M for now. I will run the machine on iGPU exclusively and see how it does. Thanks.

 

I guess the time has come sadly. Yest it got shutdown on iGPU, SG mode. I disabled the Nvidia GPU too from Device Manager. Maybe one last test is to remove MXM and see....

 

@Vasudev, I did not update the machine to any new Microcode, the BIOS is also old A14+ unfortunate that your Echo is failing too. Yea I agree there's not much on the BGA land now, however I checked most of the BGA laptops and some videos yesterday.

 

Perhaps there's some VRM component failure or PCH related issue I don't know if CPU failure can cause such things too.., cannot be sure at all hard to find out.

 

Now I'm just thinking about 3 options of new machine - Clevo X170 KM with a lot of baggage attached.., 1/2 BGA Precision 7720 Refurbished for cheap. A BGA Lenovo Legion 7i 2022.

 

Unfortunate.

[electrosoft]

Tuned Primaries and fclk. Fclk caps out at 2100. Onward to terts....

 

 

 

[Papusan]

My old Gainward GTX 570 seems dead for oc'ing. Higher core clocks won't stick/crash at much lower clocks than normal. I normally had +32% overclock now barely 5% on the cores. But max voltage and vram overclock works just fine. And temps is ok so not the culprit. And same behaviour on 6 different OS. Hmm

 

Here is 3DM Fire Strike - The newer GTX 670

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5256518_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_670_8516_marks?recalculate=true

[tps3443]

Hey everyone, I found this Patriot 2TB SSD for $77 USD. Such an amazing value! I just wanted to share. 
 

2TB SSD= $77

1TB SSD= $43
 

 

https://store.patriotmemory.com/collections/frontpage/products/copy-of-new-patriot-p400-lite-m-2-2280-pcie-gen4-x4-solid-state-drive-1?variant=42237992861861

[cylix]

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Tuned Primaries and fclk. Fclk caps out at 2100. Onward to terts....

 

 

 

 

Nice, i need to tune my ram aswell still working expo at 6000 cl32.. Didnt buildzoid said that 2033 was the best on AM5?

Or was that a bug at the beginnig.

 

After i installed win 11 i found the best config for the 7950x3d chip, so in bios prefer frequency instead of v-cache, then in windows stay on balance mode and turn the crap game mode off and game bar aswell.

Use process lasso and  for Games use CPU Sets to v-cache, everything else leave it alone. Works wonders and love Process Lasso. Getting a little more fps in games like cyberpunk, but especially the lows are so high as before on the 7900x, its so smooth and the cpu is only consuming 60w ..Its crazy how efficient is this cpu, and with the honeywell pad it only goes to 50 Celsius.

 

Now i need to play with PBO and Ram, if i have time..

 

 

[cylix]

 

[Mr. Fox]

20 hours ago, Papusan said:

13900KS SP117 (P129 E95 MC87) only $1,500 USD. No, thanks. If this was the last Cpu for socket 1700 and next socket + chips coming spring 2024 ( a year from now)... Maybe but nope. 

Yeah, that's real stupid.  I'd pay an extra $150-$200 for a golden sample, but paying a little more than double is just downright idiot-level. Better to settle for a lower bin and dump more voltage on it than dump twice as much money on it. Even $1,000 is pushing it, but $1,500 suggests that you're trolling for morons.

 

Aside from the level of stupid it would require on the part of the buyer, I'd be ashamed to ask that much for it, especially in a community where I was established and planned to continue my contributions. Going into the situation with a premeditated plan to screw someone you have frequent interaction with raises questions in my mind about the person selling it. It is a logical and strategic venue to offer it up because it puts it in front of the proper audience, but taking advantage of the audience like that is no bueno.