*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

You know, since I’m returning this 4080 Super anyways, it has got me kinda thinking lol. I could save a little more and get a 4090 lol.

I was going to text you and suggest exactly that, but then I just decided to mind my own business and let you do you. I am glad you are thinking that way.

 

We have a similar mindset. I was going to grab a 4080S, then got to thinking about that and changed my mind and bought a second 4090 instead. Do I think the 4090 is a better value? No. In fact, I think the 4080S is a better value. Do I think I would be happy spending less on a second-fiddle GPU? No, I don't. Now, sure... I think buying an Intel CPU for 75% less that performs on par with a 3060 Ti makes perfect sense. That's a no-brainer. But, the 4090 performs substantially better than a 4080S or 7900 XTX. The 4090 will last substantially longer due to the +20% higher performance, creams everything when ray tracing is involved, and it has more vRAM if a person wants to use a GPU for gaming for many years without an upgrade. And, the 4090 will have a much better resale value if an upgrade to 50-series is likely.

 

The way I look at it, the 4080S, and even a 7900 XTX, is similar sitting on the edge of the swimming pool with your legs and feet in the water, scooping up water in your hands and splashing it onto yourself and getting your hair wet, etc... but never actually getting into the pool and swimming. Put a different way... close, but no cigar.

 

Almost is for people playing horse shoes or throwing darts. Nothing wrong with that if it is what floats their boat. But, almost is not my thing. If I am going to save money, it needs to be more than a little bit. I like saving money, but only when it is enough to be meaningful. If it's just a little bit then it feels like a silly compromise instead of a sound decision.

 

I love my Arc A770. It's amazing. And, I love how little I paid for it. I am looking forward to finding out what Battlemage looks like and how much sense it will make financially. The $1500~ decrease in cost is more than meaningful and makes compromising such an easy decision if it gets the job done.

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

You know, since I’m returning this 4080 Super anyways, it has got me kinda thinking lol. I could save a little more and get a 4090 lol.

 

LOL..... x 1000. 🤣

 

This is why I like you @tps3443 always easy going and funny with comic relief material for days. 🙂

 

But in all seriousness, get the 4090.

 

If/When I get a 5090, I will have used this 4090 for over two years and extracted maximum value. If you get a 4090 now with Blackwell looking more and more likely drifting into 2025, you will get well over a year or more from the 4090 with options to spare how you want to address the 5000 series.

 

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

 

Good. All things considered, and as much I've learned about you over the years, I didn't think a 4080 Super would suffice. I am in the same boat as you with buying a house and if you get a 4090, that means I will get one too. You're making the decision for the both of us, hahaha. No pressure. 

 

Looks like sound logic to me! 🤣

 

Two for the price of one....engage!

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

19 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I was going to text you and suggest exactly that, but then I just decided to mind my own business and let you do you. I am glad you are thinking that way.

 

We have a similar mindset. I was going to grab a 4080S, then got to thinking about that and changed my mind and bought a second 4090 instead. Do I think the 4090 is a better value? No. In fact, I think the 4080S is a better value. Do I think I would be happy spending less on a second-fiddle GPU? No, I don't. Now, sure... I think buying an Intel CPU for 75% less that performs on par with a 3060 Ti makes perfect sense. That's a no-brainer. But, the 4090 performs substantially better than a 4080S or 7900 XTX. The 4090 will last substantially longer due to the +20% higher performance, creams everything when ray tracing is involved, and it has more vRAM if a person wants to use a GPU for gaming for many years without an upgrade. And, the 4090 will have a much better resale value if an upgrade to 50-series is likely.

 

The way I look at it, the 4080S, and even a 7900 XTX, is similar sitting on the edge of the swimming pool with your legs and feet in the water, scooping up water in your hands and splashing it onto yourself and getting your hair wet, etc... but never actually getting into the pool and swimming. Put a different way... close, but no cigar. Almost is for people playing horse shoes or throwing darts.

Yeah it’s really a money thing though. No time for splurging right now since we are buying a house lol. Me and my wife must have our down payment sit in the bank untouched and an additional 2 months living wages sitting in the bank as well on top of that. All while we inch towards our closing day on our new home. The worst thing is these random expenses popping up that are not covered by our home loan. So far we’ve spent about $3500 on random items. Septic permit, special use permit for land, home appraisal, earnest money towards our land. Any extra money for a more expensive GPU must be actually legit saved with time and not just removed or my wife would disown me 😂lol. 
 

But I’d be totally happy with Suprim X 4080 Super. So I might just go that route. And make do. 
 

Im putting away a few hundred this pay period, and I’m already returning my 4080 Super. I’m gonna see how optimistic or motivated I feel about stepping to the xx90 level when I have the return funds back😀.

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Yeah it’s really a money thing though. No time for splurging right now since we are buying a house lol. Me and my wife must have our down payment sit in the bank untouched and an additional 2 months living wages sitting in the bank as well on top of that. All while we inch towards our closing day on our new home. The worst thing is these random expenses popping up that are not covered by our home loan. So far we’ve spent about $3500 on random items. Septic permit, special use permit for land, home appraisal, earnest money towards our land. Any extra money for a more expensive GPU must be actually legit saved with time and not just removed or my wife would disown me 😂lol. 
 

But I’d be totally happy with Suprim X 4080 Super. So I might just go that route. And make do. 
 

Im putting away a few hundred this pay period, and I’m already returning my 4080 Super. I’m gonna see how optimistic or motivated I feel about stepping to the xx90 level when I have the return funds back😀.

Well, you have to do what makes the most sense for your family and the house it the first priority. You could let the pendulum swing the other way and get an Arc A770, enjoy what a truly fantastic inexpensive GPU it is. You sold your 3090 already and need a GPU right?

 

I can tell you I am as pleased as punch with my A770. When you spend so little and get respectable results it is not hard to lower your expectations. Where that becomes a problem for me is when I spend a lot. It's easier (for me) to be disappointed with the outcome when it wasn't a low-cost option, and easy to feel satisfied when I spent very little on something that just works really well.

[tps3443]

57 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well, you have to do what makes the most sense for your family and the house it the first priority. You could let the pendulum swing the other way and get an Arc A770, enjoy what a truly fantastic inexpensive GPU it is. You sold your 3090 already and need a GPU right?

 

I can tell you I am as pleased as punch with my A770. When you spend so little and get respectable results it is not hard to lower your expectations. Where that becomes a problem for me is when I spend a lot. It's easier (for me) to be disappointed with the outcome when it wasn't a low-cost option, and easy to feel satisfied when I spent very little on something that just works really well.

Yep absolutely. Honestly, I don’t need no 4090 lol. I’m just not happy with my MSI Expert which is what is sparking all of this lol. I’m gonna be realistic though and stick with 4080 Super and stick within my budget 😎I just want a different AIB than this one. This one is very disappointing because no waterblocks available, and even if I did keep it on stock air, it runs warmer than a 4080 Super FE which is $150 cheaper. 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Yep absolutely. Honestly, I don’t need no 4090 lol. I’m just not happy with my MSI Expert which is what is sparking all of this lol. I’m gonna be realistic though and stick with 4080 Super and stick within my budget 😎I just want a different AIB than this one. This one is very disappointing because no waterblocks available, and even if I did keep it on stock air, it runs warmer than a 4080 Super FE which is $150 cheaper. 

I really do not care for the looks of the Expert. It looks a bit like an FE in some ways and I really do not care for the FE GPUs  either.

 

My water block should be here on Monday. This GPU runs freakishly cool for being air cooled, but it should. It is ridiculously huge and takes up way too much space (4 slots) and renders the x4 PCIe slot that I was using unusable.  It looks pretty intimidating, too. To be honest I kind of like that, but I don't want to give up using two NVMe drives for the meaningless virtue of it being awesome-looking.

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Reciever said:

The fact that a purchase between a house and a 4090 is even a thing is something im still wrestling with lol

 

When you buy a house, you always have something to spend money on. On the house and inventory, LOOL

I just replaced the sewage system... And installed a new electrical system late last year. Only $13.5000 USD. Then we bought the heater/AC unit right before Christmas at +$3000. This year there will be a new sliding balcony door. Only $5000. So the 4090s seems damn cheap in comparison, HaHa

 

The new will become old, and you must renew it with time (your house/apartment and your tech). I bought my house we live in 1992 and only god know how much I have spent on it the last 3 decades. 

 

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Yep absolutely. Honestly, I don’t need no 4090 lol. I’m just not happy with my MSI Expert which is what is sparking all of this lol. I’m gonna be realistic though and stick with 4080 Super and stick within my budget 😎I just want a different AIB than this one. This one is very disappointing because no waterblocks available, and even if I did keep it on stock air, it runs warmer than a 4080 Super FE which is $150 cheaper. 

 

Most of the 4080 Super MSRP cards will float your boat with a waterblock and chiller. We have still access to X-flashing and lower GPU temps will still benefit 4000 series cards. Pay much more than MSRP is silly when you know the xx80 cards should never have costed more than $800-899 USD.

 

20 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Regardless.. I will buy two new. See what they say. And I put in and out cards so have spare parts like this tiny trash is probably smart.

 

Nope. I don't want use that dual pigtails. They use 8x8 pins for the HOF and I don't want change how it is inside the pc box. I'll go back to benching my old cards while I wait for new cables. I'll put in the 970 HOF for now. 

 

Ordered 2x 12VHPWR cables. And they are on the way. The beQuiet 12VHPWR cables is half the price vs the 12VHPWR cables from Corsair😎 And all the other brands 12VHPWR cables is from 50-100% more expensive. I paid $15 USD for each of the cables without tax. So $30.10 for two + the Norwegian tax.

 

And heres the thing. You pay double the price for this ugly 4-way pigtail adapter. That's perverse. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

18 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

When you buy a house, you always have something to spend money on. On the house and inventory, LOOL

I just replaced the sewage system... And installed a new electrical system late last year. Only $13.5000 USD. The 4090s seems damn cheap in comparison, HaHa

 

The new will become old, and you must renew it with time (your house and your tech). I bought my house we live in 1992 and only god know how much I have spent on it the last 3 decades. 

I bet there are people that own an electric car that would go off the rails complaining about the 4090 price being too expensive, not knowing that replacing the battery pack in their EV turdmobile will cost them as much as you just spent on your house, or the equivalent of about seven 4090 GPUs and 1,000 times more harmful to the environment, even though going "green" may have been part of their irrational justification for wasting gobs of money on an unreliable mode of transportation.

[Talon]

On 2/8/2024 at 1:20 AM, tps3443 said:

I may try another, but I can’t cool it in sustained loads like games anyways to benefit from extra power lol. Need a waterblock which none are available. 
 

I did try flashing the Strix OC 420W bios and it bricked my card. Fortunately, I dropped my original bios in the exact same folder and named it MSI.rom, so I was able to blind flash right back successfully after about 10 failed attempts guessing while not being able to see a screen. The main thing that helped was watching my motherboards debug cpu temp jump everytime I hit enter, so I knew something was happening 😀 I was even 2nd guessing my self if I had command prompt open or not. I hadn’t needed to flash anything in years so I was seriously out of practice. 

 

And yet my 4080 Super FE flashed the Strix vBIOS and your vBIOS without issue. I'll try out the new 450w Galax vBIOS soon. 

[Papusan]

Yup. Cablemod have to reply on my posts outside their own reddit forum. Ban me from CM reddit forum won't help. 

 

 

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Recall of CableMods' 12VHPWR Adapters Estimates Failure Rate of 1.07%

[Papusan]

Sorry double post. But got answer back. Both in the thread and suddenly in the pm

 

Suddenly a chat popped up....

[tps3443]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I really do not care for the looks of the Expert. It looks a bit like an FE in some ways and I really do not care for the FE GPUs  either.

 

My water block should be here on Monday. This GPU runs freakishly cool for being air cooled, but it should. It is ridiculously huge and takes up way too much space (4 slots) and renders the x4 PCIe slot that I was using unusable.  It looks pretty intimidating, too. To be honest I kind of like that, but I don't want to give up using two NVMe drives for the meaningless virtue of it being awesome-looking.

See, that’s what I want to experience. Massive silly air cooler that works good, that’s what I was expecting to experience anyways but I’m just not feeling all that. This current GPU does around 63-64C stock auto fan speeds. Thats about 275-300 watts. And 1300 RPM fan speeds. 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

See, that’s what I want to experience. Massive silly air cooler that works good, that’s what I was expecting to experience anyways but I’m just not feeling all that. This current GPU does around 63-64C stock auto fan speeds. Thats about 275-300 watts. And 1300 RPM fan speeds. 

I played COD Modern Warfare (2023) for just over 2 hours this evening with the GPU overclocked +100 core, +1400 memory, +100mV and pulling over 380W yet temps were perfect. Not even close to getting hot. Max temps were core 54.2°C, memory 58°C and hot spot 62.6°C. That's fantastic for an air cooled GPU with an overclock. Now I just have to pop the lid off of this SP117 CPU and run it bare die so I can clock it higher that 5.7GHz without it getting too hot under a severe load like Cinebench.

Looks like with the maxed out settings and ray tracing candy cranked the GPU was using almost 15GB of vRAM.

[Papusan]

 

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I played COD Modern Warfare (2023) for just over 2 hours this evening with the GPU overclocked +100 core, +1400 memory, +100mV and pulling over 380W yet temps were perfect.

 

And I played 3DMark with the old GTX970 😁 

 

The 3DM Time Spy score could come in within 68th for GTX980 with the weaker GTX970😆

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5478036_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_970_14348_marks?recalculate=true

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5478034_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_geforce_gtx_970_5117_marks?recalculate=true

 

 

[Etern4l]

5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

This current GPU does around 63-64C stock auto fan speeds. Thats about 275-300 watts. And 1300 RPM fan speeds. 

Those are decent temps on air? Anyway, the issue is that you got yourself into a launch buying frenzy / pressure cooker and ended up with a weird card with no water blocks available. Could that be because it has just been launched (I don’t recall seeing those Expert cards before)? Maybe, but by going with a more standard gamer/enthusiast design you would have been guaranteed availability of a water block, and the temps would have been better on air. Then again, you could have just sat on your 3090 a little longer..

 

I would respectfully suggest that you tune out the 4090 bros here for now and focus on the house, instead of dropping extra $800 on a GPU in an untimely fashion. Have you budgeted all the spend after you complete? Frankly if you even take a little break from gaming as a result, you will be more than OK - trust me. Anyway, GPU prices and availability should improve in the weeks to come (would be my guess), so you will likely be rewarded for your patience.

 

On a more philosophical note, the pursuit of ‘the best’ can prove problematic for most people, not least because going from ‘great’ to ‘the best’ tends be very costly and provide quite diminishing returns. OK, so you drop that $2k on a gaming video card if that helps you feel better (the reality is that very few people would actually care I guess), but can you also have the best body/health, car, house/neighbourhood, career, partner, family, kids in college, vacations, yacht etc? It’s a road towards suffering. BTW It’s also how unscrupulous P2W game developers (e.g. EA) make money - people drop hundreds/thousands to have the best virtual character in a game, most likely as a substitute for achieving “the best” in other areas of life…

I would suggest the better way of looking at this is to ask: “Is this the best way to spend those resources ($ and time)?”. If at one point you determine that getting a gaming GPU is the best way to spend $2k for you then go ahead, but either way - unlike the futile pursuit of the best/most expensive - you can win the optimal resource utilisation challenge every day, and derive great and lasting pleasure from that.

[Raiderman]

@Mr. Fox sorry if you mentioned it already, but is this one of those EK Pro manifolds?

 

[tps3443]

6 hours ago, Etern4l said:

Those are decent temps on air? Anyway, the issue is that you got yourself into a launch buying frenzy / pressure cooker and ended up with a weird card with no water blocks available. Could that be because it has just been launched (I don’t recall seeing those Expert cards before)? Maybe, but by going with a more standard gamer/enthusiast design you would have been guaranteed availability of a water block, and the temps would have been better on air. Then again, you could have just sat on your 3090 a little longer..

 

I would respectfully suggest that you tune out the 4090 bros here for now and focus on the house, instead of dropping extra $800 on a GPU in an untimely fashion. Have you budgeted all the spend after you complete? Frankly if you even take a little break from gaming as a result, you will be more than OK - trust me. Anyway, GPU prices and availability should improve in the weeks to come (would be my guess), so you will likely be rewarded for your patience.

 

On a more philosophical note, the pursuit of ‘the best’ can prove problematic for most people, not least because going from ‘great’ to ‘the best’ tends be very costly and provide quite diminishing returns. OK, so you drop that $2k on a gaming video card if that helps you feel better (the reality is that very few people would actually care I guess), but can you also have the best body/health, car, house/neighbourhood, career, partner, family, kids in college, vacations, yacht etc? It’s a road towards suffering. BTW It’s also how unscrupulous P2W game developers (e.g. EA) make money - people drop hundreds/thousands to have the best virtual character in a game, most likely as a substitute for achieving “the best” in other areas of life…

I would suggest the better way of looking at this is to ask: “Is this the best way to spend those resources ($ and time)?”. If at one point you determine that getting a gaming GPU is the best way to spend $2k for you then go ahead, but either way - unlike the futile pursuit of the best/most expensive - you can win the optimal resource utilisation challenge every day, and derive great and lasting pleasure from that.

Yeah the 4090 idea was just a thought of hmmmm 🤨 🧐 “Evil laughter moment” after returning the 4080 Super, and getting the opportunity to spin the wheel again lol. I recouped some and saved and budgeted the rest to be able to buy the 4080 Super so it wouldn’t affect me financially, so I’m not spending money on credit cards etc, or pulling from our main savings account, I can afford to own and keep a 4080 Super 🙂. It’s really just the simple fact that I really hate the card I originally bought on launch day, and I think I was trying to make my self love it and make do lol. If it was my mind set just a few years ago I’d be stacking the remainder 4090 balance on a credit card 😆

 

Once Newegg refunds me, I’m just gonna order a Suprim X 4080 Super. Thats more inline with what I’m after. Big effective air cooler, waterblock options available, free mouse pad, I need a new one anyways. 
 

I’m really looking forward to moving most of all though, I’m going to have my own office in a new home on my own land which is something I’ve been wanting since starting the “Work at home” thing in 2020. Me and my wife have been working hard for this for years now. We have been renting the same place for like 7 years now, which is a partially remodeled double wide home that was originally built in 1986. But it barely has air conditioning, slow leaking roof, mold growing in some of the closets anytime we have our landlords fix something they increase our rent. In my state they can continue increasing rent with no limit for no reason. So we’ve been more or less working towards saving money and building up our finances so we can buy a new home which is pretty costly in 2024 with how expensive things are. But it’s all good, I’m prepared for that. 

[Mr. Fox]

42 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

@Mr. Fox sorry if you mentioned it already, but is this one of those EK Pro manifolds?

 

Yes it is. I have one on each of my custom loop desktops. It makes things so much easier and neater without having components in a loop routed in series. I can disconnect just one component with QDC fittings without disturbing any other components or the loop itself. I can't imagine functioning without them any more. They seem like they are a bit on the spendy side, but when you consider it is a buy it once and use it forever purchase it's actually not very expensive.

[Raiderman]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes it is. I have one on each of my custom loop desktops. It makes things so much easier and neater without having components in a loop routed in series. I can disconnect just one component with QDC fittings without disturbing any other components or the loop itself. I can't imagine functioning without them any more.

...and thats your reservoir laying on the bottom of the case? I really like that look, well done 👊

 

any links to these? Titan PC? Frozen CPU? Performance PC,s?

 

[Talon]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I played COD Modern Warfare (2023) for just over 2 hours this evening with the GPU overclocked +100 core, +1400 memory, +100mV and pulling over 380W yet temps were perfect. Not even close to getting hot. Max temps were core 54.2°C, memory 58°C and hot spot 62.6°C. That's fantastic for an air cooled GPU with an overclock. Now I just have to pop the lid off of this SP117 CPU and run it bare die so I can clock it higher that 5.7GHz without it getting too hot under a severe load like Cinebench.

Looks like with the maxed out settings and ray tracing candy cranked the GPU was using almost 15GB of vRAM.

 

Did your new Gigabyte card arrive with the updated PCB? 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-strengthens-rtx-40-board-design-amid-pcb-cracking-issues

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

...and thats your reservoir laying on the bottom of the case? I really like that look, well done 👊

 

any links to these? Titan PC? Frozen CPU? Performance PC,s?

 

Thank you for the compliment. No, those are just lines on the bottom of the case that lead to my external cooling system. The pumps, reservoir and 1080 (360x3) radiator are outside of the case. I have passthrough fittings in the empty bottom PCIe slot in the case. Both of my large desktops have the loop designed the same way. The one with the water chiller has a 5 gallon tank reservoir and five D5 pumps. The one in the photo has two D5 pumps. Strangely enough the flow rate is almost the same on both systems.

 

You can buy it direct from EKWB and usually less than from Titan Rig or Performance-PCS unless you can grab one on sale or a good used one on eBay. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-pro-manifold-2cpu-4gpu-acet

 

There is a smaller version with fewer ports, but I prefer the larger one. Even though I do not use all of them, they are available and it allows me to space the fittings further apart (an empty plugged port between each fitting). On the other system I have it mounted to the floor of the case.

47 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

Did your new Gigabyte card arrive with the updated PCB? 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-strengthens-rtx-40-board-design-amid-pcb-cracking-issues

I did not know there was an improved version. Thanks for the link. I will check the design when I take it out to install the waterblock. I have no idea which one it has. Either way I am not too worried because I never allow any GPU to hang without support. I'm kind of anal about that because I think it is harmful no matter how the PCB is designed.

[electrosoft]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I played COD Modern Warfare (2023) for just over 2 hours this evening with the GPU overclocked +100 core, +1400 memory, +100mV and pulling over 380W yet temps were perfect. Not even close to getting hot. Max temps were core 54.2°C, memory 58°C and hot spot 62.6°C. That's fantastic for an air cooled GPU with an overclock. Now I just have to pop the lid off of this SP117 CPU and run it bare die so I can clock it higher that 5.7GHz without it getting too hot under a severe load like Cinebench.

Looks like with the maxed out settings and ray tracing candy cranked the GPU was using almost 15GB of vRAM.

 

Gigabyte is known for slapping on some monster size air coolers on some of their cards. I said it before and I'll say it again. While I do not care for their motherboards, their GPUs are solid. Remove the idiot factor of users not using a sag bracket/GPU standoff when your eyes can clearly see monstrous sag with some of these behemoths, and they are very solid.

 

8 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 Then again, you could have just sat on your 3090 a little longer..

 

I would respectfully suggest that you tune out the 4090 bros here for now and focus on the house, instead of dropping extra $800 on a GPU in an untimely fashion. Have you budgeted all the spend after you complete? Frankly if you even take a little break from gaming as a result, you will be more than OK - trust me. Anyway, GPU prices and availability should improve in the weeks to come (would be my guess), so you will likely be rewarded for your patience.

 

Agreed. If you have it to spend on LUXURY items (IE, not needed but for personal enjoyment) or can properly budget it without paying any interest, go for it. If you don't, then don't and address your financial priorities/responsibilities.

 

I refuse to pay interest on anything. If I can't afford it, I don't get it. I even buy my cars outright. A house is a different scenario though but even then....

 

I thought sticking with the KPE 3090 was the smart move if you're not getting a 4090.

 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Yeah the 4090 idea was just a thought of hmmmm 🤨 🧐 “Evil laughter moment” after returning the 4080 Super, and getting the opportunity to spin the wheel again lol. I recouped some and saved and budgeted the rest to be able to buy the 4080 Super so it wouldn’t affect me financially, so I’m not spending money on credit cards etc, or pulling from our main savings account, I can afford to own and keep a 4080 Super 🙂. It’s really just the simple fact that I really hate the card I originally bought on launch day, and I think I was trying to make my self love it and make do lol. If it was my mind set just a few years ago I’d be stacking the remainder 4090 balance on a credit card 😆

 

Once Newegg refunds me, I’m just gonna order a Suprim X 4080 Super. Thats more inline with what I’m after. Big effective air cooler, waterblock options available, free mouse pad, I need a new one anyways. 
 

I’m really looking forward to moving most of all though, I’m going to have my own office in a new home on my own land which is something I’ve been wanting since starting the “Work at home” thing in 2020. Me and my wife have been working hard for this for years now. We have been renting the same place for like 7 years now, which is a partially remodeled double wide home that was originally built in 1986. But it barely has air conditioning, slow leaking roof, mold growing in some of the closets anytime we have our landlords fix something they increase our rent. In my state they can continue increasing rent with no limit for no reason. So we’ve been more or less working towards saving money and building up our finances so we can buy a new home which is pretty costly in 2024 with how expensive things are. But it’s all good, I’m prepared for that. 

 

Outside of some scenarios, patience usually provides the optimal rewards. My dad always said, "the more you feel rushed to buy or especially someone rushes you to buy, the more you wait." and I've always used that approach when purchasing anything and it has only failed me a few times in life (IE, something that is clearly an already killer value and I should have just bought it immediately versus waiting).

 

Funny about the house. We used to own a monster sized two story + basement house w/ a pool and once my daughter grew up and moved, we downsized to a double wide for efficiency and it has provided insane savings across the board versus a house with much less square footage to clean and upkeep and a cozier existence for just the two of us. My wife's parents did the same thing over 20yrs ago. They sold the family home and moved into a very nice double wide.

 

We have discussed maybe meeting in the middle and getting a small rancher but the ease and convenience can't be beat. Be prepared for much higher costs and upkeep across the board.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Talon said:

 

Did your new Gigabyte card arrive with the updated PCB? 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-strengthens-rtx-40-board-design-amid-pcb-cracking-issues

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I did not know there was an improved version. Thanks for the link. I will check the design when I take it out to install the waterblock. I have no idea which one it has. Either way I am not too worried because I never allow any GPU to hang without support. I'm kind of anal about that because I think it is harmful no matter how the PCB is designed.

I decided to check while I was delidding the SP117 13900KS. Yes, it does have the improved PCB design.

[electrosoft]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

I decided to check while I was delidding the SP117 13900KS. Yes, it does have the improved PCB design.

 

Looking forward to your SP117 13900KS results and glad to see you got the new PCB.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Both of my large desktops have the loop designed the same way. The one with the water chiller has a 5 gallon tank reservoir and five D5 pumps. The one in the photo has two D5 pumps. Strangely enough the flow rate is almost the same on both systems.

 

Nice systems bro Fox. But regarding the flow rate.... I expect the chiller run colder.... Aka lower temps will reduce flow rate. Same also if you use different coolant for them. Can you confirm you use exactly same coolant?

 

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Gigabyte is known for slapping on some monster size air coolers on some of their cards. I said it before and I'll say it again. While I do not care for their motherboards, their GPUs are solid. Remove the idiot factor of users not using a sag bracket/GPU standoff when your eyes can clearly see monstrous sag with some of these behemoths, and they are very solid.

 

Regarding idiot factor. What you in short say.... Idiots buying Gigabyte. Not as easy.... Gigabyte made trash PCB design before this new change. That's the facts. Put up 1000 cards. 50% with Gigabyte and 50% with another brand. The outcome will still show that more Gigabyte cards get cracks due idiot PCB design. Not because only idiots buy Gigabyte😎 Isn't that idiotic?

 

Same also with FE cards. PCB is designed with same weird shape. Maybe less cards sold (or lower weight in combination with a shorter card) can help Nvidia fix less cracked cards. Or they sell their FE cards to less idiots😆

 

 

Yup, Gigabyte was able to see for themself that their own idiot GPU PCB design pushed away former buyers after they being screwed with cracked cards. Good repair youtube videos floding also helped push Gigabyte in the right direction. A big win win for idiots? Or for Gigabyte? Could be for both 🙂