*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

18 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Man, GPUs have come such a long way since the first Titan. Even the crappy ones are stronger. But, it's a nice trip down memory lane. Scores are similar to my Prema-fied 980M benchmarks.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5602424_

https://hwbot.org/submission/5602422_

 

And here is the new modern. Delidded SP108

 

[electrosoft]

I never took the time to test cache scaling so a video like this shows minimal gains but they're still there in pockets here and there for gaming. I think I did do a few tests in WoW back with my 12900k but it didn't show much gains at all. I may retest.

 

 

 

As we suffered through the slow death of truly upgrade enabled laptops...... 😞

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/socketed-cpu-laptops-and-high-end-mxm-graphics-are-fading-into-history

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Socketed-mobile-CPUs-the-modular-laptop-potential-that-lived-in-the-worst-time-possible.862212.0.html

[chew]

boo i suck.....needs more work but i got to move on and test other cpu's so will put this one as revisit later to settle this beef.

 

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

26 minutes ago, chew said:

boo i suck.....needs more work but i got to move on and test other cpu's so will put this one as revisit later to settle this beef.

 

 

 

 

 

That's some damn good work Chew! I wonder if anyone else in the thread has hit 8600 with that level of stability along with some benchable 8800 runs, nice bro!.

 

When all is said and done, I doubt I'll be hitting those levels, but it shows the potential of the Asrock Lightning board.

 

 

[chew]

2 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

That's some damn good work Chew! I wonder if anyone else in the thread has hit 8600 with that level of stability along with some benchable 8800 runs, nice bro!.

 

When all is said and done, I doubt I'll be hitting those levels, but it shows the potential of the Asrock Lightning board.

 

 

 

I'm sure they have. I'm an AMD guy.  raiderman and patriot twisted my arm to do some intel stuff.

[chew]

Quick hash out of a cpu i'm giving away. No gear 4 loving but seems like it will be decent for it's intended purpose.

 

 

[Raiderman]

47 minutes ago, chew said:

Quick hash out of a cpu i'm giving away. No gear 4 loving but seems like it will be decent for it's intended purpose.

 

 

I just don't have that sort of patience. You doing a raffle, or just giving it to someone you know?

 

$499 msrp is reasonable for a 9950x

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/99439/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-pricing-leaked-499-9900x-for-399-9700x-299-and-9600x-229/index.html

[chew]

2 hours ago, Raiderman said:

I just don't have that sort of patience. You doing a raffle, or just giving it to someone you know?

 

$499 msrp is reasonable for a 9950x

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/99439/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-pricing-leaked-499-9900x-for-399-9700x-299-and-9600x-229/index.html

 Nah its going to benny and lucky noob for memory review/testing.

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Raiderman said:

I just don't have that sort of patience. You doing a raffle, or just giving it to someone you know?

 

$499 msrp is reasonable for a 9950x

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/99439/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-pricing-leaked-499-9900x-for-399-9700x-299-and-9600x-229/index.html

 

Very reasonable! And it looks like AMD learned their lesson from the 7950x is that is the pricing. They are really putting their boot on Intel's neck big time and I'm loving it!

 

7 hours ago, chew said:

 

I'm sure they have. I'm an AMD guy.  raiderman and patriot twisted my arm to do some intel stuff.

 

Glad they did and very happy to see your work in the thread bro.

[Mr. Fox]

Nice to run a good version of Windows for a change.
 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5603298_

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5603299_

 

[Tenoroon]

3 hours ago, Raiderman said:

I just don't have that sort of patience. You doing a raffle, or just giving it to someone you know?

 

$499 msrp is reasonable for a 9950x

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/99439/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-pricing-leaked-499-9900x-for-399-9700x-299-and-9600x-229/index.html

NICE, I was hoping 9700x would be 300. I am a happy man now. 7600x will be on the marketplace very soon ;)

[electrosoft]

Testing different settings and profiles on the SP109 14900KS and it is definitely superior to my SP115 13900KS using Falkentyne's baseline testing here which I used on the SP115 13900KS but more importantly in real world testing it can do at 5.8 and 5.7 for SFF parameters what the SP115 could do at 5.6 all core.

 

Running a 30min CB23 at 5.6 all core even on an AIO and temps never break 70c and score ~42k which is good enough for me but I like having a realistic option of 5.7 and 5.8 settings even on an AIO which will push into the 80s.

 

Onward to memory tuning....

 

16 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

NICE, I was hoping 9700x would be 300. I am a happy man now. 7600x will be on the marketplace very soon 😉

 

Yeah this pricing is very nice and bodes well for their X3D models.

 

 

 

[Papusan]

On 7/21/2024 at 5:44 PM, Papusan said:

 

And here is the new modern. Delidded SP108

 

 

Nice. A fix for people with almost new Cpu's. Hope you can win the silicon lottery a second time if your degraded cpu was one of its kind.

Intel finally announces a solution for CPU crashing errors — claims elevated voltages are the root cause; patch coming by mid-August [Updated]

The bug causes irreversible degradation of the impacted processors. We're told that the microcode patch will not repair processors already experiencing crashes, but it is expected to prevent issues on processors that aren't currently impacted by the issue.

 

 

Intel advises all customers having issues to seek help from its customer support. Because the microcode update will not repair impacted processors, the company will continue to replace all impacted processors. Intel has pledged to grant RMAs to all impacted customers.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-finally-announces-a-solution-for-cpu-crashing-errors-claims-elevated-voltages-are-the-root-cause-fix-coming-by-mid-august

[electrosoft]

17 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Nice. A fix for people with almost new Cpu's. Hope you can win the silicon lottery a second time if your degraded cpu was one of its kind.

Intel finally announces a solution for CPU crashing errors — claims elevated voltages are the root cause; patch coming by mid-August [Updated]

The bug causes irreversible degradation of the impacted processors. We're told that the microcode patch will not repair processors already experiencing crashes, but it is expected to prevent issues on processors that aren't currently impacted by the issue.

 

 

Intel advises all customers having issues to seek help from its customer support. Because the microcode update will not repair impacted processors, the company will continue to replace all impacted processors. Intel has pledged to grant RMAs to all impacted customers.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-finally-announces-a-solution-for-cpu-crashing-errors-claims-elevated-voltages-are-the-root-cause-fix-coming-by-mid-august

 

As suspected for quite some time in the OCN forums and elsewhere and as Jufus had said for quite some time (Over a year ago he said boost Vcore in non all core was insane). All his kits he sold were locked down to all core for stability and fixed Vcore tuning which is....shockingly....what many of us have done over the years to reign in Intel's insane limits along with MB makers pushing as hard as possible so their MB would look better than their competitors.....

 

 

[Papusan]

18 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

As suspected for quite some time in the OCN forums and elsewhere and as Jufus had said for quite some time (Over a year ago he said boost Vcore in non all core was insane). All his kits he sold were locked down to all core for stability and fixed Vcore tuning which is....shockingly....what many of us have done over the years to reign in Intel's insane limits along with MB makers pushing as hard as possible so their MB would look better than their competitors.....

 

 

 

Yup. Old school tuning is still king. Modern ways is trash. Single core boost to become the clock speed king in single core benchmarks with all too high voltage is stupid. So stupid has to be the normal nowadays.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

As suspected for quite some time in the OCN forums and elsewhere and as Jufus had said for quite some time (Over a year ago he said boost Vcore in non all core was insane). All his kits he sold were locked down to all core for stability and fixed Vcore tuning which is....shockingly....what many of us have done over the years to reign in Intel's insane limits along with MB makers pushing as hard as possible so their MB would look better than their competitors.....

 

 

Agree 100%. It is interesting that I (and others like me) have been looked upon unfavorably, even criticized sometimes by noobs that think they know everything, for selecting manual voltage and sync all cores as my overclocking SOP for years. I've done nothing different with LGA-1700 and have none of the problems the "gamers" are having now. In their infinite wisdom of doing massive undervolting with wild voltage swings and using algorithm-based (TVB) boosting they have created problems where none would have otherwise existed. Maybe I don't get 6.0 or 6.2GHz on two cores that bolsters e-peen, but I do get solid benchmark scores and a consistent experience. Maybe their observation is somewhat true that manual overclocking is dead now is, but so are their CPUs. PBO sucked for AMD and TVB sucks for Intel. Dumb is always dumb.

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2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup. Old school tuning is still king. Modern ways is trash. Single core boost to become the clock speed king in single core benchmarks with all too high voltage is stupid. So stupid has to be the normal.

Funny how much we think alike. Although worded differently, our thoughts posted essentially simultaneously, our expressions are the same underlying message.

 

Edited July 23 by Mr. Fox
added Papusan's quote

[Papusan]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Funny how much we think alike. Although worded differently, our thoughts posted essentially simultaneously, are expressions of the same underlying message.

 

We usually think the same about all the tech world. From OS, drivers, firmware and hardware. So this is as expected. We are old farts bro Fox. It's called experience. And we all know newer doesnt always means better. 

 

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-official-response-14th-13th-gen-cpu-instability-elevated-operating-voltages-root-cause-microcode-patch-in-august/

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Agree 100%. It is interesting that I (and others like me) have been looked upon unfavorably, even criticized sometimes by noobs that think they know everything, for selecting manual voltage and sync all cores as my overclocking SOP for years. I've done nothing different with LGA-1700 and have none of the problems the "gamers" are having now. In their infinite wisdom of doing massive undervolting with wild voltage swings and using algorithm-based (TVB) boosting they have created problems where none would have otherwise existed. Maybe I don't get 6.0 or 6.2GHz on two cores that bolsters e-peen, but I do get solid benchmark scores and a consistent experience. Maybe their observation is somewhat true that manual overclocking is dead now is, but so are their CPUs. PBO sucked for AMD and TVB sucks for Intel. Dumb is always dumb.

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Funny how much we think alike. Although worded differently, our thoughts posted essentially simultaneously, our expressions are the same underlying message.

 

Ryzen owners really should watch this video and apply the same process to overclocking. It really is the right way to overclock, regardless of brand. The preferred core boosting is a joke. The idea felt stupid to me all along.

On 7/21/2024 at 8:44 AM, Papusan said:

 

And here is the new modern. Delidded SP108

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

https://hwbot.org/submission/5603947_

[tps3443]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://hwbot.org/submission/5603947_

You think DDR4 3200 can run on this setup? I can’t even remember where they top out at honestly. But that already looks insanely impressive! That bandwidth/latency is very good for this system. 
 

Let’s drop the 4090 in there for a quick test! 😀

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

You think DDR4 3200 can run on this setup? I can’t even remember where they top out at honestly. But that already looks insanely impressive! That bandwidth/latency is very good for this system. 
 

Let’s drop the 4090 in there for a quick test! 😀

Thank you. Yes, I was also impressed. X79 motherboards do not support DDR4. DDR4 was not released until later (2014). I believe X99 was when DDR4 became a thing.

 

I checked my HWBOT submissions and the read speed was almost as fast as my DDR4-4600 dual channel speeds. Also worth noting, my wPrime benchmarks are almost as high as my 8700K HWBOT submissions. The temperatures are also impressive. I was expecting it to be much hotter than what it is getting with such a significant overclock.

 

Sadly, decoding above 4G and resizable bar are not supported. I was able to add the rebar module to the BIOS, but without the above 4G decoding rebar cannot work. So, I cannot use the Arc A770 on this because it requires rebar to function.

 

While I am not planning to drop the 4090 in it, I did buy a 3090 Ti FTW3. It will be here in a couple of days. This will allow me the ability to bench Windows 7 on my work PC. I do have the 2080 Ti Waterforce GPU, but this is not on a custom loop. That said, I am thinking about buyng a cheap radiator on AliExpress or eBay so I can use the 2080 Ti Waterforce. I already have a spare D5 pump/reservoir I can use to make my own GPU AIO.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5604008_

Here are a couple of lists for perspective. Considering the age of the CPU, which was released in Q2 2013, this is pretty darned impressive. Faster than what a lot of people, including many gamerboys, are still using today. 

The build quality of the Titan GPU is also impressive. It leaves A LOT to be desired in terms of performance (780 Ti era GPU), but the cooler alone weighs a ton. It has a vapor chamber, too. The guy I got it from said it was never repasted. I took it apart yesterday to replace pads and paste. The pads still look like new. Still very soft and sticky, so I left them alone. And the thermal paste was still good. Not dried out or anything. It basically looked like new after I removed the air cooling module. Considering it was released in Q1 of 2013, that's crazy to even think would be true.

[Papusan]

14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The build quality of the Titan GPU is also impressive. It leaves A LOT to be desired in terms of performance (780 Ti era GPU), but the cooler alone weighs a ton. It has a vapor chamber, too. The guy I got it from said it was never repasted. I took it apart yesterday to replace pads and paste. The pads still look like new. Still very soft and sticky, so I left them alone. And the thermal paste was still good. Not dried out or anything. It basically looked like new after I removed the air cooling module. Considering it was released in Q1 of 2013, that's crazy to even think would be true.

 

Impressive. Read my previous post about what thermal paste Nvidia's AIB partners use today for newest graphic cards. Can't even last a year before the paste is turned into useless. Igors lab said it was used cheapo trash from all AIB partners. They all go with the cheapest they can get for their very overpriced graphic cards. What do they save? 30-50 cents for every card?

 

There is much better options out there but this will hurt their already big profits. Greed have no limits.

 

Not overhyped: Honeywell PTM7950 in lab test and a real game changer for graphics cards igorslab.de

[tps3443]

15 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Thank you. Yes, I was also impressed. X79 motherboards do not support DDR4. DDR4 was not released until later (2014). I believe X99 was when DDR4 became a thing.

 

I checked my HWBOT submissions and the read speed was almost as fast as my DDR4-4600 dual channel speeds. Also worth noting, my wPrime benchmarks are almost as high as my 8700K HWBOT submissions. The temperatures are also impressive. I was expecting it to be much hotter than what it is getting with such a significant overclock.

 

Sadly, decoding above 4G and resizable bar are not supported. I was able to add the rebar module to the BIOS, but without the above 4G decoding rebar cannot work. So, I cannot use the Arc A770 on this because it requires rebar to function.

 

While I am not planning to drop the 4090 in it, I did buy a 3090 Ti FTW3. It will be here in a couple of days. This will allow me the ability to bench Windows 7 on my work PC. I do have the 2080 Ti Waterforce GPU, but this is not on a custom loop. That said, I am thinking about buyng a cheap radiator on AliExpress or eBay so I can use the 2080 Ti Waterforce. I already have a spare D5 pump/reservoir I can use to make my own GPU AIO.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5604008_

Here are a couple of lists for perspective. Considering the age of the CPU, which was released in Q2 2013, this is pretty darned impressive. Faster than what a lot of people, including many gamerboys, are still using today. 

The build quality of the Titan GPU is also impressive. It leaves A LOT to be desired in terms of performance (780 Ti era GPU), but the cooler alone weighs a ton. It has a vapor chamber, too. The guy I got it from said it was never repasted. I took it apart yesterday to replace pads and paste. The pads still look like new. Still very soft and sticky, so I left them alone. And the thermal paste was still good. Not dried out or anything. It basically looked like new after I removed the air cooling module. Considering it was released in Q1 of 2013, that's crazy to even think would be true.

Oh yeah lol. x79 is DDR3. My goodness that was a while ago. Now that I think about it, I do remember running 1866 or 1833 on my Intel i7 3820. 

[chew]

boo file space gone...... The KF

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

So, I put the Z790i Edge into a slightly larger case (ASUS A21). The 3090 Ti FTW3 should be delivered tomorrow. I put the Rampage IV Gene into the smaller AP201 that the Edge used to be in.