*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

Good news, last small update for WoW seems to have fixed the issues pretty quick with the 7900xtx.

 

I've been running some tests comparing my 14900KS 5.6 fixed profile vs 5.9 auto profile. I took my foot off the brake (undervolting) a touch and now even Wukong runs fine on the 5.9 auto profile so all is well.

 

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I did some more testing in WoW with the 7900xtx and the 14900KS thinking 5.6 and 5.9 will basically be the same but I'm seeing ~183fps with 5.6 and 202fps with 5.9 everything else the same for some fixed vantage testing (Ultra 10, 4k RT OFF). I know WoW is one of the most CPU dependent/responsive games out there, but I wasn't expecting this big of a gap so I'll need to figure and lock down a good flight run to really collect some more data. I can swap CPU bios profiles back and forth and repeat this consistently. I even took my 5.9 profile and just adjust the multipliers back only to 5.6 auto only keeping everything else the same and still saw that drop in fps.

 

This fixed vantage spot in Hallowfall (one of the new zones) is at 8200 CL34 tightened up and the profiles are the same except for 5.6 fixed all core and 5.9 auto. 5.9 does draw about  ~30w more than 5.6 but that's to be expected.

 

I haven't even tested with APO yet which supports WoW.

 

 

On 9/7/2024 at 3:02 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I have to put in a plug for Thermal Grizzly. I purchased the Mycro LGA-1700 Direct Die block and it performed poorly compared to the IceMan Cooling block. I emailed them and asked for an RMA, provided the before/after temperature comparisons. They did not do an RMA, just apologized and issued a refund. 

 

Fast forward a few months, they contacted me, totally out of the blue, and offered to send me the updated product. I didn't ask for it. I replied and accepted and they sent it. Works great. Essentially the same thermal performance as the IceMan block. I like the design of the cold plate better. It has a rim around the die to contact the PCB, which adds support and spreads out the compression of the PCB into the socket instead of the die being the only point of contact. And, it makes a dam to keep the liquid metal confined to the die area.

 

These results are without the chiller, in my hot (79°F) office.

 

More extended stress test...

 

 

Whoa, that is very good on TG's part! Is this the same block De8auer has been posting about on the OCN forums and getting it updated and working properly and basically laying the groundwork for Socket 1851 ?

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Good news, last small update for WoW seems to have fixed the issues pretty quick with the 7900xtx.

 

I've been running some tests comparing my 14900KS 5.6 fixed profile vs 5.9 auto profile. I took my foot off the brake (undervolting) a touch and now even Wukong runs fine on the 5.9 auto profile so all is well.

 

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I did some more testing in WoW with the 7900xtx and the 14900KS thinking 5.6 and 5.9 will basically be the same but I'm seeing ~183fps with 5.6 and 202fps with 5.9 everything else the same for some fixed vantage testing (Ultra 10, 4k RT OFF). I know WoW is one of the most CPU dependent/responsive games out there, but I wasn't expecting this big of a gap so I'll need to figure and lock down a good flight run to really collect some more data. I can swap CPU bios profiles back and forth and repeat this consistently. I even took my 5.9 profile and just adjust the multipliers back only to 5.6 auto only keeping everything else the same and still saw that drop in fps.

 

This fixed vantage spot in Hallowfall (one of the new zones) is at 8200 CL34 tightened up and the profiles are the same except for 5.6 fixed all core and 5.9 auto. 5.9 does draw about  ~30w more than 5.6 but that's to be expected.

 

I haven't even tested with APO yet which supports WoW.

 

 

 

Whoa, that is very good on TG's part! Is this the same block De8auer has been posting about on the OCN forums and getting it updated and working properly and basically laying the groundwork for Socket 1871 (?)?

 

 

I have not seen that on OC.net forum so I am not sure. I will have to look.

 

On 9/7/2024 at 1:44 AM, tps3443 said:

I always thought the two-core boost was really cool! I always use this option every day. On all my chips, 13900K/13900KS/14900K/14900KS. It seems solid with no signs of degradation from using this on LGA1700 or even LGA1200. I am obsessed with CPU stability, real ram stability, and also CPU degradation lol.

I wanted to do a comparison of Auto voltage fixed core 5.9Ghz and also the Auto voltage 5.9-6.2Ghz, just if anyone is curious what it looks like. 

Run #1) 5.9Ghz locked on (8 Cores) Auto voltage DDR5 8600c36.
5.9Ghz Vcore MAX: 1.305V.
5.9Ghz VID MAX: 1.304v.
Load Vcore: 1.217V.
Package temp: 70C.
Idle Power min 16.3 watts
Package power Max R23 single core: 84 Watts.
Package power Max multi-core: 314 Watts.
R23 ST Score: 2,277.
R23 MT Score: 43,377.



Run # 2) 5.9Ghz (8 Cores) 6.2Ghz on (2 Cores) Auto voltage DDR5 8600c36.
6.2Ghz Vcore MAX: 1.403v
6.2Ghz VID MAX: 1.405v.
Load Vcore: 1.217V.
Package temp: 70C.
Idle Power min 15.8 watts
Package power Max R23 single core @6.2Ghz: 90 Watts.
Package power Max multi-core: 313 Watts.
R23 ST Score: 2,395
R23 MT Score: 43,389




It is important to note, that my best two cores only reach a max voltage of 1.387-1.396V. Since this is the case, I can lock my voltage to this ceiling and during low loads my voltage will never surpass this on any cores, because only the best cores #4 and core #5 are hitting 6.2Ghz. In the above scenarios the voltage is just auto/default.  So, it will kind of go where it wants to on all of the cores, even if only two of them are hitting 6.2Ghz. Fortunately, either setup is full auto, and both run really efficient regardless. We have the same nice low load voltage, only a slightly higher vcore for during 2 core loads when the chips hits 6.2Ghz. One just allows a +300Mhz advantage on two cores. I did not mean to highlight this font like this, it copied the font of the IMG url's I posted. Also, the average voltage seems comparable between the two in my time investigating this. 




 

This isn't quite that low on load voltage, but very close (1.225V, so less than 0.010V difference)... This is with the P-cores set to "auto" and E-cores set to 47x all core. Similar Cinebench score as well, but with lower P-clock and higher E-clock.

 

[electrosoft]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I have not seen that on OC.net forum so I am not sure. I will have to look.

 

This isn't quite that low on load voltage, but very close (1.225V, so less than 0.010V difference)... This is with the P-cores set to "auto" and E-cores set to 47x all core. Similar Cinebench score as well, but with lower P-clock and higher E-clock.

 

 

Yeah, de8auer has been pretty active lately when the temps were coming back on one of his blocks. I wasn't sure if it was the one you re-tested or another. 🙂

 

Your ring bus is a lot higher too (4.5 vs 5.2) @Mr. Fox I think @tps3443 was doing a pure "5.9 stock" run (5.9/4.5/auto (4.5) run and absolutely pure auto run w/ 6.2 boost.

[Mr. Fox]

Well... The Apex Encore motherboard failed last night. It had been giving me trouble off and on for a month or two not completing POST and hanging with a green light and Q-code 99, but pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del one or two times had allowed it to complete POST until last night. Thankfully it is not the CPU.  I stayed up all night farting around with it trying different things. I swapped CPU, RAM, GPU, removed all NVMe and SATA connections and tried moving keyboard and mouse to other USB ports, but no change. I even tried doing the recovery flash on the BIOS, which completed successfully but did not change the behavior. It goes through all of the normal startup routine, as expected, but hangs at the very last part for I/O initialization. The monitor power light comes on like it is receiving a signal, but never has anything on-screen. Before it quit working I had a hard time getting it to boot earlier in the day yesterday. I had to power it off and on about a dozen times and then when I went into the BIOS the image on the screen loaded sluggishly.

 

I obtained an RMA today from ASUS, paid $60 for shipping (boo!) using their label. But, they will return it using ground (slow and cheap) shipping. Hopefully they won't try screwing me over like they have in the past. Took lots of pictures in case they try pulling the "physical damage" or "bent pins" liar routine like they have with so many people (including me). Hopefully it won't be a month long wait like it has in the past.

 

Maybe all of the recent negative publicity about their warranty service will change the dynamic. Crossing my fingers.

[electrosoft]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Apex Encore motherboard failed last night. It had been giving me trouble off and on for a month or two not completing POST and hanging with a green light and Q-code 99, but pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del one or two times had allowed it to complete POST until last night. Thankfully it is not the CPU.  Swapped CPU, RAM, GPU, removed all NVMe and SATA connections and tried  moving keyboard and mouse to other USB ports, but no change. Tried doing the recovery flash on the BIOS, which completed successfully but did not change the behavior. It goes through all of the normal startup routine, as expected, but hangs at the very last part for I/O initialization. The monitor power light comes on like it is receiving a signal, but never has anything on-screen.

 

I obtained an RMA today from ASUS, paid $60 for shipping (boo!) using their label. But, they will returning it using ground (slow and cheap) shipping. Hopefully they won't try screwing me over like they have in the past. Took lots of pictures in case they try pulling the "physical damage" or "bent pins" liar routine like they have with so many people (including me). Hopefully it won't be a month long wait like it has in the past.

 

Maybe all of the recent negative publicity about their warranty service will change the dynamic. Crossing my fingers.

 

Ouch, sorry to hear.

 

Nothing worse than when a MB starts to act flaky then eventually goes down but better it than a good CPU. Hopefully the replacement has equal or even better traces for memory OC. I still remember my Taichi Z390 replacement and the dud memory OC it had compared to the original.....I also remember my replacement EVGA FTW Z390 that went from a good board to a monster board.

 

Sheesh, $60. Hopefully like you say no shenanigans. Maybe let them know you have Steve from GN on speed dial?I liked EVGA's RMA process where they would request pictures of the socket before authorizing.

 

🙂

 

[Papusan]

Sad days forwards. AMD don't bother compete anymore. But this is as expected. Remember AMD hired our old friend F. Azor from Dell Alienware as Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions & Marketing at AMD. 

 

AMD deprioritizing flagship gaming GPUs: Jack Hyunh talks new strategy against Nvidia in gaming market
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-deprioritizing-flagship-gaming-gpus-jack-hyunh-talks-new-strategy-for-gaming-market 

 

It sure sounds like AMD is ready to cede the performance crown to Nvidia before the battle has even begun, and that doesn't bode well for the pricing of Nvidia's next-gen gaming flagships — a lack of meaningful competition at the top of the stack is never good for the consumer. 

 

See also... https://www.overclock.net/posts/29365046/

 

More disgusting for the Sunday.... 

 

Finally the golden moniker "Extreme" get an meaning... How Extreme is this?🤔

 

AMD's Z2 Extreme processor will upgrade handheld PC gaming early next year

 

 

Expensive AMD X870 motherboards could offset more affordable Ryzen 9000 CPUs

After converting the listed Euro amounts to US dollars based on current exchange rates, the pricing shows a significant increase over Asus' existing X670 motherboard lineup.

 www.techspot.com

[ryan]

Thanks gentlemen @Mr. Fox@Papusan. linux is perfect for alot of things, I don't think I can switch to just linux but it is nice having linux/win11 installed on same device. If I want to use my vr headset and stream with moonlight I can switch to windows 11. everything else linux.

[Papusan]

21 minutes ago, ryan said:

@Papusan im interested in benchmarking in linux. do you know of any good apps to benchmark cpu with, I cant seem to get cinebench to run, botched the install.

 

Try Geekbench.

 

https://www.geekbench.com/legacy/ 

 

https://www.geekbench.com/download/

[Papusan]

On 9/7/2024 at 9:02 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I have to put in a plug for Thermal Grizzly. I purchased the Mycro LGA-1700 Direct Die block and it performed poorly compared to the IceMan Cooling block. I emailed them and asked for an RMA, provided the before/after temperature comparisons. They did not do an RMA, just apologized and issued a refund. 

 

Fast forward a few months, they contacted me, totally out of the blue, and offered to send me the updated product. I didn't ask for it. I replied and accepted and they sent it. Works great. Essentially the same thermal performance as the IceMan block. I like the design of the cold plate better. It has a rim around the die to contact the PCB, which adds support and spreads out the compression of the PCB into the socket instead of the die being the only point of contact. And, it makes a dam to keep the liquid metal confined to the die area.

 

These results are without the chiller, in my hot (79°F) office.

 

More extended stress test...

 

 

Nice. A new water block will come for Arrow lake and socket 1851. Hmmm, I wonder if they will offer an coldplate upgrade or people need to buy an new Direct Die water block from Thermal Grizzly to get the best performance.  

 

 

 

Thermaltake confirms 71 CPU cooler models are fully compatible with Intel LGA1851

Much easier reuse the old cold plate for socket 1700 without direct die mount. 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, ryan said:

@Papusan im interested in benchmarking in linux. do you know of any good apps to benchmark cpu with, I cant seem to get cinebench to run, botched the install.

 

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Try Geekbench.

 

https://www.geekbench.com/legacy/ 

 

https://www.geekbench.com/download/

 

https://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/

 

https://openbenchmarking.org/

[Papusan]

Oh, my gosh. Disgusting is the gold for the bling bling lovers. 

 

 

My eyes hurts after seeing this. Please use sunglasses🤐

 

[ryan]

Lol.har. I just decided to format 4tb and install zorin after a flawless grid session..that's all I really ask. No micro stutters lag or glitches. Linux seems to be more stable even though it's 20 percent slower. But navigating this thing scream like chrome os but so much better. Next experiment will be mac os..or maybe I'll pass..I would now like win11/zorin/chromeos triple boot..

 

Anyways I can't thank you enough. I respect your opinion and if it wasn't suggested by the right man I wouldn't have ever checked it out...

[ryan]

Ok funny. I adjusted power mizer and the performance profile in Linux and that was causing the error. Linux seems to command you to think and troubleshoot even uis like zorin. I'm afraid this os is far to complex but in a few years I should have a complete grasp

[ryan]

so Installed proton and enabled compatability mod. bam 100s of games are now showing. also one major thing. I listen to alot of music and for some reason linux is exporting sound to my tv in dolby atmos or something of the like. it sounds alot clearer louder and feels like surround sound on my tv...first time this tv has seperated audio signals creating a 360 soundscape.

 

1) way better sound

2) smoother gaming

3) faster web browsing

4) cleaner than windows and completely customizable

 

 

reasons im keeping linux. pity i still might have a use for windows 10/11

[Mr. Fox]

40 minutes ago, ryan said:

so Installed proton and enabled compatability mod. bam 100s of games are now showing. also one major thing. I listen to alot of music and for some reason linux is exporting sound to my tv in dolby atmos or something of the like. it sounds alot clearer louder and feels like surround sound on my tv...first time this tv has seperated audio signals creating a 360 soundscape.

 

1) way better sound

2) smoother gaming

3) faster web browsing

4) cleaner than windows and completely customizable

 

 

reasons im keeping linux. pity i still might have a use for windows 10/11

CPUPower-GUI is what I use for CPU clock control and power profile management. Try installing it from the Zorin software center first. You can install it from the .deb file on Github as a last resort if it is not available in the software center. Linux tries to force the CPU to use minimal power rather than balls-to-the-wall performance, which is annoying if you do not override the default settings.

 

https://github.com/vagnum08/cpupower-gui/releases/tag/v1.0.0

 

If it does not work you have have to install pyxdg and libhandy if they are not already installed. If you need to, probably won't need to do more than sudo apt update, then sudo apt install pyxdg and sudo apt install libhandy from a terminal.

 

CPU-X is basically the Linux equivalent of CPU-Z. GreenWithEnvy will allow GPU core and memory overclocking.

[ryan]

i got 10k in cinebench, 2000 less than windows 11 but thats ok it runs alot cooler. everything feels snappier. even boot times are faster. as for modifying cpu speed its alright as benching on linux isnt interesting to me not yet. im still curious about crysis and grid, which im installing now to see if i can get the best of both worlds. I checked out a game not natively supported AOE3 DE and it ran flawlessly maxed at 4k so I think im in the clear, not a huge gamer.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

i got 10k in cinebench, 2000 less than windows 11 but thats ok it runs alot cooler. everything feels snappier. even boot times are faster. as for modifying cpu speed its alright as benching on linux isnt interesting to me not yet. im still curious about crysis and grid, which im installing now to see if i can get the best of both worlds. I checked out a game not natively supported AOE3 DE and it ran flawlessly maxed at 4k so I think im in the clear, not a huge gamer.

CPUPower-GUI may help close the gap on Cinebench by forcing maximum performance mode instead of balanced or power saver mode. Below are screenshots I just grabbed on my Dell Precision turdbook with the CPU and GPU stuff showing. The big white window in the first screenshot is "hardinfo" (aka System Profiler and Benchmark Tool) that should be available for download from the software center.

 

Laptops wiht Optimus can be tricky in terms of forcing the discrete GPU. On my Precision I can disable the Intel GPU in the BIOS so that it has no switchable graphics. In order to overclock the GPU using GreenWithEnvy you need to be using X.org display manager. I do not think it will work with Wayland. To enable overclocking, from a terminal you need to run this command once to update the X.org file and then reboot to unlock the core and memory clocks.. Sadly, my Quadro P5000 (and all others, including desktop Quadro P5000) have locked core and memory clocks. Nothing can overclock this GPU model in Windows or Linux AFAIK.

sudo nvidia-xconfig --cool-bits=24

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Oh, my gosh. Disgusting is the gold for the bling bling lovers. 

 

 

My eyes hurts after seeing this. Please use sunglasses🤐

 

That is truly repulsive. Using a PC should not feel like you are attending a circus. They did not even have any calliope music. They should have been playing this in the background.

 

[Tenoroon]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

CPUPower-GUI is what I use for CPU clock control and power profile management. Try installing it from the Zorin software center first. You can install it from the .deb file on Github as a last resort if it is not available in the software center. Linux tries to force the CPU to use minimal power rather than balls-to-the-wall performance, which is annoying if you do not override the default settings.

 

https://github.com/vagnum08/cpupower-gui/releases/tag/v1.0.0

 

If it does not work you have have to install pyxdg and libhandy if they are not already installed. If you need to, probably won't need to do more than sudo apt update, then sudo apt install pyxdg and sudo apt install libhandy from a terminal.

 

CPU-X is basically the Linux equivalent of CPU-Z. GreenWithEnvy will allow GPU core and memory overclocking.

I need to look into CPUPower-GUI, I've been setting up Gentoo over the past 2 weeks. It has been hell, but I've learned a lot. I'm still in a terminal trying to setup Xorg as I've been troubleshooting the Nvidia drivers for the past few days... I see why Linus Torvalds hates Nvidia so much lol.

 

Gentoo has been pretty good about utilizing my CPU to the fullest, I've been using some generic terminal based CPU monitoring tool and compiling anything makes full use of my CPU (It seems to boost when it should and doesn't spike like in Windows). I wonder if the minimal CPU power is coming from some default setting in Kubuntu or something.

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

I need to look into CPUPower-GUI, I've been setting up Gentoo over the past 2 weeks. It has been hell, but I've learned a lot. I'm still in a terminal trying to setup Xorg as I've been troubleshooting the Nvidia drivers for the past few days... I see why Linus Torvalds hates Nvidia so much lol.

 

Gentoo has been pretty good about utilizing my CPU to the fullest, I've been using some generic terminal based CPU monitoring tool and compiling anything makes full use of my CPU (It seems to boost when it should and doesn't spike like in Windows). I wonder if the minimal CPU power is coming from some default setting in Kubuntu or something.

I generally use Linux distros that automatically  manage the NVIDIA drivers and it is generally hassle-free that way. Many of them have the option during setup to choose the installation and use of proprietary drivers, but POP!_OS and Zorin and Kubuntu make it pretty effortless. Some things are worth doing the hard way, but to me that's not one of them. I think Kubuntu is my favorite distro. It is closer to "ready to use" for me with a default installation in much the same way Zorin is.

[ryan]

lol I wanted to install geforce now to see if the improved network snappiness would help artifacting vs windows. i clicked install/ then i blinked and had no idea it was already done, it literally installed in 2 seconds, it does 1080p which isnt useful but I guess when games become more demanding i'll be able to test them out.

 

going to install the cpu app you mentioned and see what i can do, honestly id be happy with 12k as the highest iv'e been able to get is 13500 in windows with the best thermal paste/best cooler/and max fans. sometimes you just can't compete. would need a LN mod lol

 

@Mr. Fox I'm not new to benchmarking with 3dmark but thats simple. im trying to benchmark other components for fun but lack the knowledge. in windows my clocks drop to 3200 and in linux same thing, i set everything to performance and modest min and max clocks applied/ also sudo apt update and reboot

 

 

frustrating having my handicap. forget everything suprised i havent forgot my name

[Mr. Fox]

33 minutes ago, ryan said:

@Mr. Fox I'm not new to benchmarking with 3dmark but thats simple. im trying to benchmark other components for fun but lack the knowledge. in windows my clocks drop to 3200 and in linux same thing, i set everything to performance and modest min and max clocks applied/ also sudo apt update and reboot

It looks like you got it installed. Nice job. 

 

The clock dropping is most likely controlled by the firmware/EC on your turdbook and you might not be able to correct that without modded firmware. You can try maxing out the minium and maximum clocks on both sliders  and if it still does that you're going to have to live with it or find someone that can locate and correct the cancer code in your turdbook firmware. I have a friend with a newer ASUS gaming turdbook with a 13900HX CPU and it won't hold its overclock under load. I have tried everything I can to help him and it is hopeless with stock firmware cancer.

[Papusan]

New low from Asus. The GDDR6 model is currently $15 more than Asus’s white GDDR6X OC variant. 

 

The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 graphics cards packing slower GDDR6 VRAM have started to trickle through to U.S. e-tailers. 

Asus Dual GeForce RTX 4070 GDDR6 hits U.S. e-tailers but is more expensive than some GDDR6X models

[ryan]

yeah its frustrating. gpu does same thing even though iv'e flashed a 140w vbios. clocks are set to 2100 and they bounce from 1700-1800 with cool temps. cpu is awful, I have never been able to get 14000-16000 like others. If I do end up buying a laptop again just because of its compact size im going with a clevo one. I bought a clevo back in the day and it was fast and ran at full bore, sad that 15 years ago i could just pop in a new mxm gfx card, good thing the greedy clowns in charge took that ability away with new laptops

 

did a little 10 sec dig

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Omen-16-laptop-review-Powerful-RTX-3070-gaming-laptop-with-unnecessary-drawbacks.570237.0.html

 

according to this I matched a 3070 in firestrike and 100 points away from time spy, so i can't complain about gpu. cpu however the alienware 15x with its 11800h scored 14000 id imagine with an oc it would score 16000.

 

which leads me to the question if i can use the alienwares info for my cpu like ec mod or something, im not well versed with cpus

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

New low from Asus. The GDDR6 model is currently $15 more than Asus’s white GDDR6X OC variant. 

 

The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 graphics cards packing slower GDDR6 VRAM have started to trickle through to U.S. e-tailers. 

Asus Dual GeForce RTX 4070 GDDR6 hits U.S. e-tailers but is more expensive than some GDDR6X models

As long as they can get away with charging more because something has their name on it they will, and as long as the sheeple believe the brand name is something that makes it special they will continue to get away with charging outlandish prices for their junk.

2 hours ago, ryan said:

yeah its frustrating. gpu does same thing even though iv'e flashed a 140w vbios. clocks are set to 2100 and they bounce from 1700-1800 with cool temps. cpu is awful, I have never been able to get 14000-16000 like others. If I do end up buying a laptop again just because of its compact size im going with a clevo one. I bought a clevo back in the day and it was fast and ran at full bore, sad that 15 years ago i could just pop in a new mxm gfx card, good thing the greedy clowns in charge took that ability away with new laptops

 

did a little 10 sec dig

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Omen-16-laptop-review-Powerful-RTX-3070-gaming-laptop-with-unnecessary-drawbacks.570237.0.html

 

according to this I matched a 3070 in firestrike and 100 points away from time spy, so i can't complain about gpu. cpu however the alienware 15x with its 11800h scored 14000 id imagine with an oc it would score 16000.

 

which leads me to the question if i can use the alienwares info for my cpu like ec mod or something, im not well versed with cpus

There is probably a total system power cap and whichever component (CPU or GPU) is pushing the system to draw the most power gets emasculated. It's unfortunate that this is how turdbooks are made now, but it is very common among all of them and has been for a good while. Even the Clevo systems that had desktop CPUs had power caps, which is super stupid. There should not be any such thing. The power limit should be determined by the maximum power-drawing capacity of the components and/or the AC adapter and not limited to something that offers anything less than full and unmetered performance.

[tps3443]

23 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Yeah, de8auer has been pretty active lately when the temps were coming back on one of his blocks. I wasn't sure if it was the one you re-tested or another. 🙂

 

Your ring bus is a lot higher too (4.5 vs 5.2) @Mr. Fox I think @tps3443 was doing a pure "5.9 stock" run (5.9/4.5/auto (4.5) run and absolutely pure auto run w/ 6.2 boost.

Not exactly pure stock, but not too far off. I’m running my own XOC profile for my ram. 8600c36-49-49-49-63 with 262k tREFI and fully tuned secondary timings. This 8600 profile increases my Vmin/Vmax by 0.027mv-0.029mv over 8200c40 xmp. This profile is stable for anything, so I don’t touch it unless absolutely necessary. It has built a pretty tall brick wall in stability over all of the reboots and re-trains since I’ve been running it for so long now.