tps3443 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 3 hours ago, electrosoft said: Are we going to have this argument again about overclocked vs stock not being applicable??!! 🤣 Is it gonna be 2080ti vs 3090 all over again for us? 🤣 Looking forward to the benches though. 🙂 Look at this thing man. Crazy. The silicon is so FRESH. https://youtube.com/shorts/POE4RDU_iL8?si=O_XzKLDZYpuLzE0Y @electrosoft https://youtu.be/40wojZVVGBk?si=YKkf-HSzPXFAh3_H 1 1 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago 9 hours ago, tps3443 said: I am very surprised you pulled the 9070XT. I thought you be running that one for a while. Unfortunate that the waterblock didn’t do more for the hotspot. It is a great card. I pulled it because I don't have a block for it and one will not be available until mid to late July at the earliest and it runs absurdly hot. So, I don't know if a block will help it a lot or a little bit. Putting the 6900 XT on a waterblock only slightly improved its hotspot temperatures even though the core and memory junction temperatures were fantastic. The GPU that has a block on it now is the ASUS 3080 Turbo, which is a budget 3080 with a blower on it that does an absolutely horrid job of cooling the GPU. It was absolutely insane and I can't believe ASUS got away with selling them the cooler was so horrible. It made a ton of noise, but the GPU still hit 100°C playing games or running a 3DMark benchmark. It was even worse than the Radeon card, but now it runs as cool as a cucumber, including hotspot. And, it performs really well for a 3080 LHR model. I bought it brand new on eBay dirt cheap ($325) from a distributor in Israel that had a whole bunch of them (dozens) that were still in their white label packaging and plastic wrapping. 6 hours ago, electrosoft said: That's fair. Let me know how much you're asking for it. Probably too much to make it worth my while to pick up yours and return the Gaming (or put it in the wife's system and return the 5070) but you never know. If I decide to sell it I will give you first crack at it. I like it enough to want to keep it, but what I am not sure about is whether or not I like it enough to spend roughly $200 more on a waterblock for it. Having to do that to get the temperatures I would like to see makes it too expensive. So, let's see what I decide when the block is actually available, how much it costs and what my appetite for spending is when that time comes. I could probably use it forever running as hot as it does without any problems because it is apparently "normal" for Radeon cards. Just because it is normal and the heat might not kill it doesn't mean I like that part of it, LOL. It destroys the 3080 in terms of performance. No contest there. The way I look at it, neither one of them operate at temperatures that make me happy out of the box. To be totally fair, I also have to admit that almost every GPU I have owned since the day I ditched turdbooks and moved back to desktops has been on a waterblock and the times I have used an air cooler there is not one single GPU that I thought had "good" temperatures with air cooling. Some have been worse than others, but all have sucked to a degree that I found displeasing when they were air cooled. I have spoiled myself with liquid cooling of almost everything for the past 10 years and don't really like to have anything air cooled on my desktops, be it a CPU, GPU or RAM. It is probably safe to say that this has caused me to be a bit jaded and intolerant of temperatures that mainstream PC gamers have come to accept as normal and don't think about. They just play games and the temps are what the temps are. (Gosh that last part puts them in the same category as the turdbook gamers. I guess ignorance is bliss and you can't miss something you have never had.) 1 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | RX 9070 XT Elite | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF A3 1200W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago #29 HOF 3Dmark with my Founders Edition. 😁 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME 3 1 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 5 hours ago, tps3443 said: Look at this thing man. Crazy. The silicon is so FRESH. https://youtube.com/shorts/POE4RDU_iL8?si=O_XzKLDZYpuLzE0Y @electrosoft https://youtu.be/40wojZVVGBk?si=YKkf-HSzPXFAh3_H 13 minutes ago, tps3443 said: #29 HOF 3Dmark with my Founders Edition. 😁 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME Looking good bro! Time to dust off the chiller to really let it fly and see where it takes you! I did say weeks or months ago with the 5090 when all is said and done, all roads lead to Rome. 🫡 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair |Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E My eBay Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago On 6/25/2025 at 12:14 AM, electrosoft said: If I hadn't picked up a set of those 8400 sticks you recommended, I would be all over the 2x24GB sticks. That is good pricing on all three sets. They won't last long. Fluxmaven already grabbed the kit that had the heatsinks removed. They would probably all be gone by now if not for the people that have been (rightfully) terrified of getting scammed by pirates that have hijacked accounts. When I posted my WTB for a golden 9950X within 2 hours some loser had created a new account and PM'd me to email his friend. I Googled the email address and saw proof it was a scam in a couple of other fourms, using the same email. Degenerates like that are a disgrace to humanity. They needs to be hunted down and exterminated. 1 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | RX 9070 XT Elite | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF A3 1200W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 9 hours ago, tps3443 said: #29 HOF 3Dmark with my Founders Edition. 😁 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME Monster card. I've said it before, the FE is my favorite card last gen and still my favorite card this gen, maybe slightly less so with the weird multiple PCBs and cables they used. Last gen 4090 FE and it's brick air cooler was phenomenal. The PCB and the cooler are literally works of art and feel stupid high quality compared to some of these junk AIBs. And the price is right too. Nice job! 1 1 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago On 6/24/2025 at 6:07 PM, Papusan said: Here's the thing. Nvidia just launched RTX 5050 for Jokebooks and Desktops. A Game Changer🤢 RTX 5050 desktop card = 8GB GDDR6 with Memory Bandwidth 320 GB/sec RTX 5050 Jokebook soldered on chips = 8GB GDDR7 with Memory Bandwidth 384 GB/sec Is this meant as a JOKE ? Any reason Nvidia couldn't use faster GDDR7 for their RTX 5050 Blackwell desktop cards? The desktop variant of RTX 5050 offer slower vram with lower memory bandwidth and lower AI TOPS. IS LESS MORE? Jensen Huang bring Blackwell RTX To Gamers Everywhere, Starting At $249. Nice. Anyone that trust Nvidia on this one? Nowhere they said they did this to maximize profits for the desktop cards. Why is slower GDDR6 more beneficial on the desktop version of 5050 ? Lower power with the more power efficient GDDR7 just mean more power for the GPU cores within same TBP limits. And lower memory bandwidth translate to lower AI TOPS for the desktop cards. nvidia think less is more🤔 This move was to manage the $249 price target and still get decent profits margins. Nvidia explains why its desktop RTX 5050 only uses GDDR6 memory instead of GDDR7 like the laptop version GDDR6 vs GDDR7 Berraondo neglected to share any advantages GDDR6 offers to the desktop version of the RTX 5050 (if any). Only mentioning that "...G6 is the best choice for desktops". There is no reason for Nvidia to use GDDR6 from a pure performance perspective. GDDR7 is not only more thermally and electrically efficient (allegedly) but also provides significantly more bandwidth than the fastest GDDR6 modules. It is likely Nvidia chose GDDR6 on the desktop RTX 5050 for cost-saving reasons and possibly better supply chain availability. Nvidia uses GDDR7 on all of its other RTX 50 series GPUs, including the high-in-demand RTX 5090. Using GDDR6 on the RTX 5050 desktop GPU allows Nvidia to prioritize its GDDR7 supply to higher-end GPUs, assuming GDDR7 supply chains are strained. 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Papusan said: Anyone that trust Nvidia on this one? Nowhere they said they did this to maximize profits for the desktop cards. Why is slower GDDR6 more beneficial on the desktop version of 5050 ? Lower power with the GDDR7 just mean more power for the GPU cores within same TBP limits. And lower memory bandwidth translate to lower AI TOPS for the desktop cards. nvidia think less is more🤔 This move was to manage the $249 price target and still get decent profits margins. Nvidia explains why its desktop RTX 5050 only uses GDDR6 memory instead of GDDR7 like the laptop version GDDR6 vs GDDR7 Berraondo neglected to share any advantages GDDR6 offers to the desktop version of the RTX 5050 (if any). Only mentioning that "...G6 is the best choice for desktops". There is no reason for Nvidia to use GDDR6 from a pure performance perspective. GDDR7 is not only more thermally and electrically efficient (allegedly) but also provides significantly more bandwidth than the fastest GDDR6 modules. It is likely Nvidia chose GDDR6 on the desktop RTX 5050 for cost-saving reasons and possibly better supply chain availability. Nvidia uses GDDR7 on all of its other RTX 50 series GPUs, including the high-in-demand RTX 5090. Using GDDR6 on the RTX 5050 desktop GPU allows Nvidia to prioritize its GDDR7 supply to higher-end GPUs, assuming GDDR7 supply chains are strained. They named it 5050 because it is only half as good as it should be. The price is good, but everything else is not. 50/50. Or, maybe it is the level of ownership satisfaction. I finally got my refund from Amazon for the disappointing garbage 9950X3D bottomfeeder silicon sample that I returned. Two weeks is a long time to wait on a $750 refund. But, a better way to buy is coming soon. I can hardly wait. 2 Master // AORUS X870E Master | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8200 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) Blaster // STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi | 9950X | RX 9070 XT Elite | 48GB DDR5-8000 | GF A3 1200W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) Meh!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | $500 Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About (Turdbook) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago On 6/19/2025 at 3:33 PM, Papusan said: Yep. To serve the US market. This is on top of what they produce in Asia (the majority of production). Intel get rid of their employees. That don't increase good paid factory workers in US. One step forwards and one step backwards. Maybe this will be the new jobs for former Intel and Microsoft employees?😀 Yup, bring back the jobs... On 6/19/2025 at 3:23 PM, Papusan said: Intel layoff plans will see a 20% reduction in semiconductor factory workers Intel has reportedly told its employees that the company plans to lay off between 15% and 20% of its employees from its chip manufacturing division, with more job cuts planned down the line. Intel going the opposite way. No need for skilled employees if you prefer outsource your product production. Almost as the new Intel ceo Mr. Lip work for their competitors. Harsh cost savings can often have the opposite results in the long term. And Intel continue off-load own products. Less need for workers and production capacity. Cut into the bone. Intel Sacrifices Its Automotive Sector! Semiconductor industry faces critical talent crisis — one million additional skilled workers needed by 2030 Not enough engineers for the semiconductor industry Semi's projections indicate that by 2030, the chip industry will need to hire around one million additional skilled workers worldwide. 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: They named it 5050 because it is only half as good as it should be. The price is good, but everything else is not. If you use the cheapest parts for your products you can set lower prices. But nvidia could easily use GDDR7 and still sell it for $250 and have good margins. Use of slower GDDR6 is greed. Intel and AMD use GDDR6, so Nvidia just follow same paths. Max profits over better products. 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: They named it 5050 because it is only half as good as it should be. The price is good, but everything else is not. 50/50. Or, maybe it is the level of ownership satisfaction. I finally got my refund from Amazon for the disappointing garbage 9950X3D bottomfeeder silicon sample that I returned. Two weeks is a long time to wait on a $750 refund. But, a better way to buy is coming soon. I can hardly wait. PHOENIX!!! YES lol. I'm out there every now and again when I go to the In-Laws home. Finally! And now I can answer yes to the question if I'll ever move back lol. Phoenix based and have access to a MC if I moved out there again. Get your wallet ready lol. It's very dangerous having MC so close by lol. Edit: Just saw it's right next to Sky Harbor. Very dangerous for me on short overnights lol. 1 2 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Fluxmaven already grabbed the kit that had the heatsinks removed. They would probably all be gone by now if not for the people that have been (rightfully) terrified of getting scammed by pirates that have hijacked accounts. When I posted my WTB for a golden 9950X within 2 hours some loser had created a new account and PM'd me to email his friend. I Googled the email address and saw proof it was a scam in a couple of other fourms, using the same email. Degenerates like that are a disgrace to humanity. They needs to be hunted down and exterminated. Same happened to me when I put up a few looking for hardware posts over there. Same MO. They create accounts (or use pre-existing) always having "a friend" that happens to have exactly what you're looking for and to email them. I just ignore them. 3 hours ago, Talon said: Monster card. I've said it before, the FE is my favorite card last gen and still my favorite card this gen, maybe slightly less so with the weird multiple PCBs and cables they used. Last gen 4090 FE and it's brick air cooler was phenomenal. The PCB and the cooler are literally works of art and feel stupid high quality compared to some of these junk AIBs. And the price is right too. Nice job! Agreed. I went and checked the top 30 and our friend @johnksss is #8 with his Astral, dayum! @tps3443 has to bust out the chiller to really let that 5090FE sing at least for a bit! From the jump, 5090FE was on my top 3 list for the price and aesthetics/engineering. I know many crap all over it, but it is gorgeous. Same goes for the 4090FE. That was a thick slab of beauty. 5080FE was gobsmackingly beautiful in person and the 5070FE is a smaller version of its beauty. I just wish the logo lit up like the 5080 and 5090 versions. I ended up putting the 5070 FE in my wife's system replacing her 3080. It is a definite upgrade. I have it overclocked and it's running around 3200mhz pulling so much less, much quieter, running faster. 1 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair |Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" MSI Raider | 7950HX3D | Nvidia RTX 4090 | Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Eurocom X15 Raptor | i9-12900k | Nvidia RTX 3070ti | HyperX 3200 CL20 32GB | Samsung 990 2TB | 15.6" 144hz | Wifi 6E My eBay Store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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