*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

what?! how is that even possible, wth....

I would guess human error on the part of the employee that marked it down that much. But, it makes me want to return this one for a refund, LOL.

[tps3443]

30 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I would guess human error on the part of the employee that marked it down that much. But, it makes me want to return this one for a refund, LOL.

That’s gonna be rare to absolute mission impossible to find such a deal. I have only seen like two crazy cheap 5090’s from Walmart and that’s one of them. Walmart marks down returns by like 50% apparently. But my Walmart doesn’t even have 5090’s, let alone people returning them there lol.!😂 I think your card for $2,399 is very decent price. I’d be happy with that my self. Only other option would be to return the Zotac and grab the PNY Epic for $2,199 that @electrosoft shared. Save $200 bucks get the same or better at least. 🤷‍♂️ $2,399.99 is a good deal for a 5090 in my opinion though. I think you have a decent card that needs shunt+water. 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup.I can almost see @jaybee83 push frenetic on the refresh button on day one😁 Me... Know prices here dont change much the first 5 weeks. Take it calm boys and girls. And if you want or prefer Asus.... Not much to gain if you find a card within 3 weeks. Only luck of draw on an open box for a better deal. Day one or within 4 weeks and you are good to go. Extra good time if you are an scalper.

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Bro @Mr. Foxdon't play newest Battlefield due forced Secure Boot. Hence he won't cook/fry his new purchased Zotac😁 Please backup all your ssd's @tps3443🤗

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/zotac-rtx-5090-reportedly-catches-fire-during-battlefield-6-session

 

My last BF6 session was pulling down WAYYY more power than that Zotac was I’m certain of it. Also I was set at 3350Mhz boost in MSI Afterburner lol. Thing might hit 30c on the back side on a bad day. Tiny FE PCB is completely sandwiched in Liquid Metal and thermal pads on either side.

 

If any fire starts I think it’s gonna be my power supply, being that it’s a 1200 unit pretending it’s something much bigger.

I am not sure how much GPU power BF6 uses. Since I recently disabled GPU power monitoring in my OSD Riva tuner. So I’m not really sure how much the game uses GPU power wise. But that’s surprising any 5090 would catch fire in BF6, I didn’t get the feeling it was one of those (Super GPU power hungry games). My system idles at 340 watts just chilling at the wall. In BF6 I was hitting 1,200 watts at the wall. My CPU was eating 300 watts of that alone. So I’m gonna say maybe 600 watts with a full tilt OC on my GPU. Not a very power heavy game. 
 

 

That Zotac that burned was probably just busted lol. 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

That’s gonna be rare to absolute mission impossible to find such a deal. I have only seen like two crazy cheap 5090’s from Walmart and that’s one of them. Walmart marks down returns by like 50% apparently. But my Walmart doesn’t even have 5090’s, let alone people returning them there lol.!😂 I think your card for $2,399 is very decent price. I’d be happy with that my self. Only other option would be to return the Zotac and grab the PNY Epic for $2,199 that @electrosoft shared. Save $200 bucks get the same or better at least. 🤷‍♂️ $2,399.99 is a good deal for a 5090 in my opinion though. I think you have a decent card that needs shunt+water. 

I actually could have saved another $200 on a PNY and decided it was worth $200 to have the dual BIOS option for a cross-flash safety net. The PNY does not have dual BIOS. Otherwise I would have gone with the PNY. That said, I think there is a slightly higher build quality (objective) and aesthetic advantage (subjective) to the Zotac Solid OC. I do like the more muted appearance of the Solid, ASUS Prime and TUF video cards more than the flashy trash rainbow puke.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

That Zotac that burned was probably just busted lol. 

Probably so. I think so much of what we see in "news" articles and YouTube videos about faulty computer hardware and security risks are based on isolated and very limited scenarios that will never affect 999 out of 1,000 users. It sucks to be that one unlucky guy, but it's pole vaulting over mouse turds to make a federal case out of the one rare example.

[1610ftw]

On 8/11/2025 at 6:24 AM, electrosoft said:

Superior cooling and noise levels with the Alienware 16 and 18 2025 models....

 

I'm telling you, outside of a lack of an open BIOS, hardware wise, these redesigned models are my favorite hands down. I can only lament the lack of a 9955HX3D/5090 model. It would absolutely rip in this chassis and cooling.

 

Unfortunately I strongly dislike colors that are not a neutral black / silver / grey base color and these are what - blueish / turquoise? And do they still have the rubber-finish on the palm rest?

 

Also not a fan of the inverted mainboard design that makes maintenance a pita. Too bad Alienware has decided to go that way.

 

With that being said I love that they don't give a shit and make these quite deep and heavy and also the cherry keyboard is great and of course the cooling.

 

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I actually could have saved another $200 on a PNY and decided it was worth $200 to have the dual BIOS option for a cross-flash safety net. The PNY does not have dual BIOS. Otherwise I would have gone with the PNY. That said, I think there is a slightly higher build quality (objective) and aesthetic advantage (subjective) to the Zotac Solid OC. I do like the more muted appearance of the Solid, ASUS Prime and TUF video cards more than the flashy trash rainbow puke.

Probably so. I think so much of what we see in "news" articles and YouTube videos about faulty computer hardware and security risks are based on isolated and very limited scenarios that will never affect 999 out of 1,000 users. It sucks to be that one unlucky guy, but it's pole vaulting over mouse turds to make a federal case out of the one rare example.

 

Agreed. Another reason I skipped the PNY. I had BB match it and everything and then said, "no thanks." I mean if it drops to $1999.99 then I will most likely take the trade off but at $2199.99? Pass.

 

 

1 hour ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Unfortunately I strongly dislike colors that are not a neutral black / silver / grey base color and these are what - blueish / turquoise? And do they still have the rubber-finish on the palm rest?

 

Also not a fan of the inverted mainboard design that makes maintenance a pita. Too bad Alienware has decided to go that way.

 

With that being said I love that they don't give a shit and make these quite deep and heavy and also the cherry keyboard is great and of course the cooling.

 

 

 

Absolutely agree with all those points.....

 

[electrosoft]

Lest we forget just how bad coil whine can get, there's De8auer's RTX 6000..... just horrific levels of coil whine....

 

Assassin's Creed at 150fps.....insane

 

[Papusan]

Stupids!!!! @Mr. Fox This is is why US digging their own grave. Greed and stupidity!!!! So sad* Why can't US serve themselves? The university and school system is collapsed. They rely on Chinese engineering today. What a failure. Disgusting how this being introduced. Even US gov adm fail hard. Greed? Give everything to China. Even their soul. What a leadership🤢 Im sure this will bite them in th back. Also the old man, the so called leader of the free world need to resign when the Intel ceo get the boot. Stupids!!!

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-ceo-lip-bu-tan-has-become-a-lightning-rod-of-controversy-in-the-semiconductor-market-amid-geopolitical-tensions-heres-why

 

Im outside Africa now. Let me get som sun we don't have in the cold and rainy North. 26-27C and im happy🤩

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Im outside Africa now. Let me get som sun we don't have in the cold and rainy North. 26-27C and im happy🤩

 

Be safe and soak up plenty of sun @Papusan!

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

While I am not interested in this game or anything else the RTS genre has to offer, the theme is very timely with the current frenetic and irrational rush to glorify all things AI as a post-modern holy grail.

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This highly anticipated sequel features a new faction, larger battles, advanced units, and a new campaign to lead humanity against hostile AI takeover. In Ashes of the Singularity II, a massive real-time strategy game, command vast armies fighting for control of entire worlds. Control the forces of Earth, the mechanical AI Substrate, or the enigmatic Post-Human Coalition as you battle across the solar system in single player, cooperative multiplayer, or competitive multiplayer. After the technological singularity, only one form of life will survive.

 

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, Papusan said:

Stupids!!!! @Mr. Fox This is is why US digging their own grave. Greed and stupidity!!!! So sad* Why can't US serve themselves? The university and school system is collapsed. They rely on Chinese engineering today. What a failure. Disgusting how this being introduced. Even US gov adm fail hard. Greed? Give everything to China. Even their soul. What a leadership🤢 Im sure this will bite them in th back. Also the old man, the so called leader of the free world need to resign when the Intel ceo get the boot. Stupids!!!

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-ceo-lip-bu-tan-has-become-a-lightning-rod-of-controversy-in-the-semiconductor-market-amid-geopolitical-tensions-heres-why

 

Im outside Africa now. Let me get som sun we don't have in the cold and rainy North. 26-27C and im happy🤩

I am all for exterminating people like this, but only after due process has run its course. Wrongful executions can't be undone. He is no longer flying under the radar. If the evidence shows there is merit to the concerns and it turns out that any of them are true, he should be terminated. That should never happen arbitrarily, be done in a vacuum or based on suspicion. If you're paying attention and listening to truthful sources of information, (which is seldom ever true of the mainstream sources,) for the first time in my lifetime, wrongs are finally being righted. Fixing this is very important. It's not the most important thing. Assuming no undue interference occurs from the leftists, the lower priorities will be addressed in due course.

[tps3443]

11 hours ago, Papusan said:

Stupids!!!! @Mr. Fox This is is why US digging their own grave. Greed and stupidity!!!! So sad* Why can't US serve themselves? The university and school system is collapsed. They rely on Chinese engineering today. What a failure. Disgusting how this being introduced. Even US gov adm fail hard. Greed? Give everything to China. Even their soul. What a leadership🤢 Im sure this will bite them in th back. Also the old man, the so called leader of the free world need to resign when the Intel ceo get the boot. Stupids!!!

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-ceo-lip-bu-tan-has-become-a-lightning-rod-of-controversy-in-the-semiconductor-market-amid-geopolitical-tensions-heres-why

 

Im outside Africa now. Let me get som sun we don't have in the cold and rainy North. 26-27C and im happy🤩

Sounds great! Watch out for lions! 🦁 😆

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

While I am not interested in this game or anything else the RTS genre has to offer, the theme is very timely with the current frenetic and irrational rush to glorify all things AI as a post-modern holy grail.

 

You know, I downloaded the first Ashes of Singularity just for the benchmark on my Xeon 3175x because I had ran it on my 10900K/11900K/13900/14900/7980xe systems. And then I started playing the game. It’s kinda fun if you give it a chance. But it is dated looking now, I made it through a few levels and just stopped because it became too difficult to continue lol. But it’s pretty fun either way! I’ll try the 2nd one for sure. I love the original benchmark on the first one. I want to love RTS games but hard for me to fully invest in them. Also, BF6 Beta is live again tomorrow. If you decide to play. 🥳

 

[Mr. Fox]

20 hours ago, tps3443 said:

You know, I downloaded the first Ashes of Singularity just for the benchmark on my Xeon 3175x because I had ran it on my 10900K/11900K/13900/14900/7980xe systems. And then I started playing the game. It’s kinda fun if you give it a chance. But it is dated looking now, I made it through a few levels and just stopped because it became too difficult to continue lol. But it’s pretty fun either way! I’ll try the 2nd one for sure. I love the original benchmark on the first one. I want to love RTS games but hard for me to fully invest in them. Also, BF6 Beta is live again tomorrow. If you decide to play. 🥳

I have tried to like RPG and RTS games and I just can't do it. Something about them is extremely annoying to me. In particular I hate the "camera angle" or vantage point to such a degree that even trying to enjoy playing them makes me angry. 

 

There's zero chance I'm going to enable Secure Poot and TPM filth. It makes no difference how wonderful and awesome the game might be, that's just not going to happen. A snowballs chance in hell to be precise. I hope the game developer loses millions of dollars and becomes an object of hatred and scorn for making such horrible decisions.

 

If there was some way I could delete those options and remove them from my BIOS completely so that they could not be utilized I would do that.

[electrosoft]

So I managed to snag an open box MSI Ventus 5090 3x OC edition for $1932.26 or $2054.30 after tax or in other words $1360.29 when as is said and done (rewards and all that jazz) cheaper than the Astral I returned aka ~40% cheaper which is sick.

 

And yet I'm wondering if I hold out can I get one even cheaper! 🤣

 

Once you've been to the mountain top at jacked up MSRP and seen what the 5090 can do, all you want to do at this point is try to score one as cheap as possible. 

 

 

[KING19]

On 8/10/2025 at 12:02 AM, Mr. Fox said:

IIt looks fun. f you have to enable TPM and Secure Boot I'm out. Very upsetting to me. BF6 will be the first in the franchise that I will never purchase because of that, but there is no way I am going to bend my knee to that sort of Nazi crap. They can kiss my butt.

 

Does the game launch and run single-player campaign, or did they throw the baby out with the bath water and require their Micro$lop-sponsored anti-cheat cancer even for those that do not do online multiplayer?

 

That sucks... But here's the positive the game is very optimized which is a miracle in 2025 where majority of games run like crap and some having forced RT on. I couldnt try out the BETA because the new NVIDIA 580 drivers are broken especially for laptops, Low GPU usage in games which causes low FPS and performance, This affects GPUs in the 50 series, 40 series, 30 series, and even the 20/16 Series, probably affects the 10 series too. Going back to 577 and older fixes it.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, KING19 said:

 

That sucks... But here's the positive the game is very optimized which is a miracle in 2025 where majority of games run like crap and some having forced RT on. I couldnt try out the BETA because the new NVIDIA 580 drivers are broken especially for laptops, Low GPU usage in games which causes low FPS and performance, This affects GPUs in the 50 series, 40 series, 30 series, and even the 20/16 Series, probably affects the 10 series too. Going back to 577 and older fixes it.

Unless single-player campaign functions with Secure Poot and TPM disabled I will never know because I won't enable them or spend my money on any game or software that requires it. Even if Windoze 11 was a good operating system (which it is not) I would refuse to use it if bypassing those requirements was made impossible. These are decisions that should be left to the personal discretion of the end user.

 

Now that I have been using Linux as my primary operating systems for about 6 weeks or so and it is starting to "feel like home" to me, I am finding myself to feel that even Windows 10 LTSC is an annoying product that I would prefer to avoid. One of the reasons is the increased degree of power and autonomy to make my own decisions. I tried Bazzite and CachyOS and, while I liked them and thought they provided an aesthetically pleasing GUI, I found them both to be too restrictive and eliminated both of them.

 

When it comes to owning my computers, I insist on actually owning them and acting as a god that will be obeyed unconditionally. My commands will be followed immediately and without question. Even if that means self-destruction.  🤣

[electrosoft]

Mission accomplished! 🤣 (Out to dinner with the wifey tonight for her birthday).......

 

5090 for $2054 total in my hand secured......

 

Foxtrot Tango Whiskey....

 

(That look when you refused to pay the stupid high prices, returned your Astral, and calmly waited and watch the market to drop and hoping to snag an Open box sub $2k).....

[Mr. Fox]

7 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Mission accomplished! 🤣 (Out to dinner with the wifey tonight for her birthday).......

 

5090 for $2054 total in my hand secured......

 

Foxtrot Tango Whiskey....

 

(That look when you refused to may the stupid high prices, returned an Astral, and calmly waited and watch the market to drop and hoping to snag an Open box sub $2k).....

Happy birthday to her. But the birthday present is for you?

[electrosoft]

MSI 5090 installed. Still a chonker, but a $2k chonker vs a super $3.6k chonker.

 

MSI 5080 Shadow 3x OC vs MSI 5090 Ventus 3x OC....

 

 

 

Installed:

 

 

No coil whine again. I'm now convinced the Tripp-Lite surge protector + filter along with the EVGA 1600w P2 is helping. The odds of scoring what is quickly approaching 15 cards in a row on this setup tested not having coil whine or anything of note starting with the KPE 3090ti would have to be an incredible string of luck.

 

If I want to close the case back up, I'm going to have to plug back in the lower 3x120mm and install 140mm fans back on the top to keep the airflow going properly.

 

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The new zone in WoW for the Xpac that dropped 10 days ago is brutal. It hits the 5090 harder than any other zone I've seen so far and immediately caps it to 100% utilization zoning in and getting about 130fps pure stock

 

For reference the 5080 was getting about 89fps in the same spot overclocked (+300 / +3000)

 

This is 4k Ultra 10 RT High (which is basically max everything)

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Happy birthday to her. But the birthday present is for you?

 

I surprised her with the Series 10 Apple Watch she has been wanting for quite some time and a no holds barred dinner.

 

Funny, we went to Microcenter and it was getting a little late and I didn't get a chance to look around like I wanted (I could have spent 2-3hrs in there easily. So much sale and clearance stuff it was insane). While looking at rows upon rows of clearance motherboards I turned to her and said, "can you believe all this stuff? wow!"

 

and she looked me dead in the eye with a smirk and said, "Is it your birthday too?" 🤣

 

I knew right then and there it was time to pack up and head out to the stores and dinner for her birthday. 

 

I'm warning you @Mr. Fox and please take these words to heart....

 

....Microcenter is a dangerous place to peruse with a credit card in hand. It is doubly dangerous with a Microcenter Credit card getting 5% off items at checkout....

 

When your MC opens up in Arizona, you have been warned. 🤑