electrosoft Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Talon said: Had they just gone with 2x 12v2x6 connectors, it would have been worth it for the niche market IMO. They would have instantly sold out. Nobody really wants to have to buy a BTF board, at least on Intel side and have worse memory performance over the 2x DIMM OC boards. Maybe next gen will have BTF on 2x DIMM boards, but that is a gamble and who really wants to wait. This entire gen has been a mess. I got my waterblock for my HOF XOC card from Ali delivered this week. I still have not gotten the rest of the parts but plan to have those soon and can finally put this bad boy under water. In the end, I think I'll still perfer a good air cooler. But given the recent news of 2027 for RTX 6000 series, I will at least get to get some use out of the setup before it's obsolete lol. Agreed, AI has totally shifted priorities this gen along with Nvidia exerting more and more control each generation along with pricing is getting painful. Jensen little man syndrome is in full effect unfortunately. I would hate to pick up that Asus 5090 (as beautiful and well crafted as it is) and be locked into certain motherboards going forward. I can't imagine not being able to test it in other systems easily which is also one reason I moved away from AIO based GPUs to air cooled this generation having previously used the 3090 Kingpin, 3090ti Kingpin and then Suprim 4090 Liquid. Swapping into open frame MBs was a nightmare with that AIO. I saw where they are now saying Super cards aren't coming till Q3 2026 which does not bode well for the 6000 series launch. If that is true, then yeah 6000 series won't launch until well into 2027. If rumors of greatly reducing or ceasing production and shifting the top end to the 5080 comes true that is even a darker portend of things to come for us mere consumers.... 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago 53 minutes ago, electrosoft said: Agreed, AI has totally shifted priorities this gen along with Nvidia exerting more and more control each generation along with pricing is getting painful. Jensen little man syndrome is in full effect unfortunately. I would hate to pick up that Asus 5090 (as beautiful and well crafted as it is) and be locked into certain motherboards going forward. I can't imagine not being able to test it in other systems easily which is also one reason I moved away from AIO based GPUs to air cooled this generation having previously used the 3090 Kingpin, 3090ti Kingpin and then Suprim 4090 Liquid. Swapping into open frame MBs was a nightmare with that AIO. I saw where they are now saying Super cards aren't coming till Q3 2026 which does not bode well for the 6000 series launch. If that is true, then yeah 6000 series won't launch until well into 2027. If rumors of greatly reducing or ceasing production and shifting the top end to the 5080 comes true that is even a darker portend of things to come for us mere consumers.... A$$zeus selling GPUs that can only work with one of their motherboards was likely a very deliberate act and solely the result of ulterior motives. Not a smart buy for anyone that hasn't sold their soul to the ROG clown posse. The idea itself isn't a bad one. Much better than a fragile arson 12VHPWR (aka 12V-2x6) cable. The proprietary part makes it suck. With the baloney we are seeing with respect to AMD/Radeon GPUs now, it just gives NVIDIA a stronger chokehold on the GPU market that ultimately benefits only NVIDIA. There is no reason for them to feel compelled to release a Super or 6000 GPU line because they are effectively only competing with themselves. You either take what they offer and pay more than it is worth, or you settle for something substantially less. If AMD doesn't keep their prices in check they'll have nothing to sell to budget-conscious shoppers that are willing to sacrifice performance and good thermals to save money. 1 WRAITH // X870E Apex | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 32GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X870E-E Strix | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) MEH!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, Talon said: Had they just gone with 2x 12v2x6 connectors, it would have been worth it for the niche market IMO. They would have instantly sold out. Nobody really wants to have to buy a BTF board, at least on Intel side and have worse memory performance over the 2x DIMM OC boards. Maybe next gen will have BTF on 2x DIMM boards, but that is a gamble and who really wants to wait. You'll need newer pc chassis as well to fit the BTF motherboard. But You may fix that with a dremel and some paint but Asus main point is that you should buy whole new hardware only for that extra power connector. Greedy....... 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, electrosoft said: Exactly. With the WV2P, I will move away from the MSI tentacle. For my own edification, I do plan on running it for at least a week so I can monitor what's going on. How are 5090 stock levels there? They are drying up so quickly over here and back up to high pricing in rapid fashion. so far no too shabby tbh with regards to 5090 availability and pricing. total of 41 models on offer, out of which 33 are in stock and ready for shipping. another 3 skus need a bit of a wait time and only 5 are currently out of stock. currently cheapest model, the Inno3D X3 goes for 2399€, thus far only a "medium" increase over its all time low price point at 2076€. the Suprim SOC had its lowest price back in Sep until mid-Oct at 2640€, has since slightly increased to 2840€. The Astrai had a low at 2740€ back in Aug and has now increased to 2880€, so its been more stable than other models, price curve still pretty flat but at a much higher price level than other models. the upcreep is slight thus far but one can discern a slow upward trend. still time to snatch a model at a comparably decent price tho. from what i can discern, the cheapest ever available 5090 model was the Ventus back in June at 1999€. 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-25) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-25) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Still more than enough 5090's available here home. Cheapest one is GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5090 WindForce 3 OC at $1988,15 MSRP (without tax). So right below the famous 5090FE MSRP. New rumors. 5000 series Super cards just delayed. Now planned to launch in 26Q3 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 SUPER reportedly slips to Q3 2026, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB in short supply soon 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Papusan said: Still more than enough 5090's available here home. Cheapest one is GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5090 WindForce 3 OC at $1988,15 MSRP (without tax). So right below the famous 5090FE MSRP. New rumors. 5000 series Super cards just delayed. Now planned to launch in 26Q3 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 SUPER reportedly slips to Q3 2026, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB in short supply soon That is a good price. I would replace my 4090 with a Windforce 5090 if I could buy it that price here. I'd like to try the mod adding the second 12VHPWR connection to the empty space on the PCB. The cheapest I have noticed here is $1999 for the Zotoc 5090 Solid (non-OC). Edit: Hmm. Looks like it is. https://www.microcenter.com/product/692139/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-windforce-triple-fan-32gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card Edited 2 hours ago by Mr. Fox windfarts 5090 1 WRAITH // X870E Apex | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 32GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X870E-E Strix | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) MEH!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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