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[electrosoft]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

MSI, in typical MSI fashion, has dropped the ball on their BIOS development. They mysteriously omitted the AMD CBS menus and sub-menus, so there are lots of tweaks that were not accessible with the stock BIOS. It has taken a couple of days worth of mods and testing to get them added back. So, basically restoring expected function and features. It's really ridiculous that it was not present because it is an AMD firmware default menu option AFAIK.

 

Couple this with how they behaved with the 5090 Lightning BIOS and insisting that Techpowerup take it down from their GPU BIOS database makes it hard to respect their brand in my mind. The MSI brand is all about show, not go.

 

There was a recent article on this that got little attention. I tried to contact @flashhez and @chew and got no response, but Svet (the MSI Forum guy) came to the rescue. The world needs more people like Svet and Prema.

 

Enthusiasts have unlocked hidden overclocking menus on the MSI B850MPOWER motherboard

 

 

Have the best, easily unlock enabled laptop bios this side of Prema, but purposely lock down the bios on the MSI B850M POWER?? 

 

Look how long it took Asus to let the XOC run free (ish) and then we have the Lightning situation. I get the position of both that in the wrong hands both can drastically increase the chances of wrecking cards but still....

 

I still prefer Asus BIOS over MSI. EVGA > ASUS > MSI.

 

Still prefer MSI over Asus as a company....

 

Big ups to @svet!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

17 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Have the best, easily unlock enabled laptop bios this side of Prema, but purposely lock down the bios on the MSI B850M POWER?? 

 

Look how long it took Asus to let the XOC run free (ish) and then we have the Lightning situation. I get the position of both that in the wrong hands both can drastically increase the chances of wrecking cards but still....

 

I still prefer Asus BIOS over MSI. EVGA > ASUS > MSI.

 

Still prefer MSI over Asus as a company....

 

Big ups to @svet!

Agree with every statement you made. MSI > ASUS as a company, but MSI < ASUS for firmware and overclock focus. EVGA had the all beat, but now they are irrelevant. 

 

What is so stupid is MSI marketed this motherboard as being targeted for overclocking, especially memory overclocking, then they do something extra stupid and gimp the firmware options related to memory overclocking. What the heck? Nuts.

 

Conceptually same as the Lightning. "Hey guys, here is this extremely expensive GPU designed for extreme overclocking. You won't find out you're getting screwed until you buy it. Core is not binned, and no... no XOC BIOS for you. Only our chosen few. Hurry... buy it... quantities are limited." Screw 'em. Scammer losers.

 

And, now there is this... the good old days are gone for PC enthusiasts. At least until the AI bubble burst and they find out they actually DO need us. Right now we're getting shafted left and right. Gee, thanks Lisa Su. Witch.

 

 

Speaking of AI... LFG...