*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

On 12/25/2024 at 4:29 PM, Papusan said:

 

Here you can clearly see what's wrong with Asus... They try all too hard to please their new audience with new trash. Damn sad to see where they are going with their own home brewed software malware and new products. 

 

Yup, Asus paired with Microsoft we see "Birds of a feather flock together". In the Norwegian language it will be «krake søker make».

Asus bombards Windows 11 with christmas.exe malware-like Christmas wreath banner

 

Yup see bolded text above.... That what you'll see in the GN video. This is really disgusting - really really bad. On top it's ROG branded. Yup, even worse than what Dell Alienware (the master of proprietary trashware) can deliver. Can't beat that task. Is this  the utter bottom from Asus @Mr. Fox🤔 Could it be better without Asus slapped on the ROG logo ? Nope.

 

Buyers of this ROG piece of trash being heavily screwed by Asus. Not only due the perverse price tag but the whole package as seen here in the video. But I'm sure Asus new audience (newborn techies) will happily buy it. Just look at Dell Alieneware. They are at the top, still offering trash to consumers.Yep, there is a market for everything. Sad to see how the mighty have fallen to try please their current and coming gen sheeple with junk/and to maximize profits.

 

Say hello to Larry.... Spot on.

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup see bolded text above.... That what you'll see in the GN video. This is really disgusting - really really bad. On top it's ROG branded. Yup, even worse than what Dell Alienware (the master of proprietary trashware) can deliver. Can't beat that task. Is this  the utter bottom from Asus @Mr. Fox🤔 Could it be better without Asus slapped on the ROG logo ? Nope.

Buyers of this ROG piece of trash being heavily screwed by Asus. Not only due the perverse price tag but the whole package as seen here in the video. But I'm sure Asus new audience (newborn techies) will happily buy it. Just look at Dell Alieneware. They are at the top, still offering trash to consumers.Yep, there is a market for everything. Sad to see how the mighty have fallen to try please their current and coming gen sheeple with junk/and to maximize profits.

It is rare to see such a grand demonstration of an engineering abortion, even from a company as dishonest as A$$zeus. Maybe Frank Azor is working there now. That rises to Frankie's level of failure and its price tag is guaranteed to identify the greatest of the world's idiots that have decided to identify as a gamerboy.

[tps3443]

On 12/27/2024 at 7:46 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Looks like a nice case, bro. I look forward to seeing some build photos.

It’s going to be a work in progress for sure. I want to do a full-on build with it. I’m thinking at least 2-4 (480mm) radiators, distribution plate, and hard line tubing. I want to really emphasize on incorporating a drain for ease of access if I need to work on things, and I’ll leave off the QD3’s. But I might still go soft tubing.

 

I’ll probably go all white with the radiators and white fans! I’ve never done and hardline or used a Distro plate. But, it seems like the way to go. I may still go black fans and black rads. I don’t think it matters too much, it seems like either option would look nice. (I’m not using any RGB fans, so if they are white, they’ll just be plain white)
 

I’d love to watercool the GPU as well. But may just wait to do that using the next gen graphics cards. We’ll see.

 

I’m going to order up an another dual D5 top so I can combine my single D5’s all in to dual D5’s. And easily run (4) D5’s in the basement.
 

I’m gonna give this normal case thing with normal rads a try. It’s been a while since I have used a case or radiators at all. I really just want something low maintenance and quiet that’s all enclosed and reliable. 
 

The main things I’m struggling with are where I’m going to put things at. Which parts to order and stuff. White or black lol. Do I build vertical motherboard or normal. Vertical GPU or normal. So many choices.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

But I might still go soft tubing.

This is a personal choice, but I definitely would stick with soft tubing and QDC fittings for the maximum quality of life benefit. Hard tubing looks fantastic when done right, but it is impractical and inconvenient, and unnecessarily costly. It provides no benefit other than having something nice to look at (assuming it turns out perfectly to your liking on the first try) and the likelihood of leaking is enhanced due to how the fittings are designed. The simplest type of maintenance becomes a huge pain in the butt. You literally can't do anything without draining the system except maybe swapping RAM sticks. Depending on how the loop is designed, you may not even be able to do that. I think even the King of Hard Tubing (JayzTwoCents) has decided that it's just too impractical for anything built for daily use. It's purely for show. The need for maintenance won't be any different, but it could occur less frequent than it should due to the dread of having to work on it. And, if you don't capture and reuse the coolant, a simple CPU or GPU repaste will turn into a very costly and inconvenient project that would otherwise be inexpensive, quick and easy. Heaven forbid that one of the tubes get cracked in the process unless you spend extra to have spare hard tubing on hand in case of an unexpected emergency.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

The main things I’m struggling with are where I’m going to put things at. Which parts to order and stuff. White or black lol. Do I build vertical motherboard or normal. Vertical GPU or normal. So many choices.

I am not sure how large that case is (haven't looked closely at measurements) to see what kind of wiggle room there is, but building a self-contained custom loop is a challenge in all but the most gargantuan cases. I did a couple of builds that way before moving to open benches and enclosed cases with external cooling components and there always seems to be something that manages to get in the way of doing what you want. But, if you enjoy jigsaw puzzles you might actually enjoy the challenge. Some people really do enjoy that aspect of the build. I prefer it to be quick, easy and convenient most of all. Having to do a lot of pre-planning, measuring and starting over again when your planning and measurements were off just enough to present a problem tends to ruin it for me.

 

At the end of the day, I think you should do what you think will ultimately make you the most happy. The only person you need to please with the PC build is yourself (or the owner if you are building for someone else).

[electrosoft]

I will admit while I use this 4070 Super as a stop gap device, the Radeon 9070XT intrigues me. It feels like when Nvidia went totally bonkers with pricing with Turing that I took a time out and skipped the 2080ti and picked up a 5700xt and used that exclusively till the 3090 dropped. It kind of seems that is happening again.

 

The 9070XT is now reported to use standard 8-pin connectors again (some models will use up to three), is within 5% of the 4080 so in striking distance of the 7900xtx, much improved RT and if AMD can come in at  $600-700 price point and match the 5070/5070ti, they may have a very viable alternative on their hand.

 

Either way, a very exciting CES coming up soon!

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

The 9070XT is now reported to use standard 8-pin connectors again (some models will use up to three), is within 5% of the 4080 so in striking distance of the 7900xtx, much improved RT and if AMD can come in at  $600-700 price point and match the 5070/5070ti, they may have a very viable alternative on their hand.

 

Up to $700 price point for 9070XT.... Hmm... AMD is crazy. And people that will buy that card for this price... I don't know what to say. 

 

Rumors... Yes. But whats not rumors... AMD scrapped going with better than mid end. And Yeah, syntetic benchmarks ain't all... Because fake frames is the new. But 600-700$ for this, Oh'well. Better save your money.

 

 

 

Asus ping their valuable customers/sheple where they are (social media). More trash on the way @Mr. Fox

Asus leaks its ROG NUC 2025 on social media ahead of CES debut — compact gamer-focused RTX 50 and Core Ultra 200 mini PC on the way

[Mr. Fox]

Unless AMD releases a 4090 killer they still won't have anything worth buying as far as I am concerned. It looks like the 9070 XT won't even beat a 7900 XT if the rumors are true, so there is a great big nothing burger with flies all over it. Not beating the 7900 XTX by a solid 10-15% margin is unacceptable.

 

Finding something nice to say about it, good job to AMD for sticking with legacy 8-pin PCIe cables. That allows one to take advantage of pre-PCIe 5.0 PSUs that are getting discounted to appropriate value price levels. Let's hope the rumor is baloney, but AMD being true to form this will not come as a surprise. Pay extra for a GPU downgrade because newer is always better newer. Better off grabbing a RX 590 8GB GPU for under $100 and playing in 1080p with medium settings, or buying a 4090. The middle-ground option blows. Hot or cold is always better than lukewarm. Lukewarm is disgusting.

  

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Asus ping their valuable customers/sheple where they are (social media). More trash on the way @Mr. Fox

Asus leaks its ROG NUC 2025 on social media ahead of CES debut — compact gamer-focused RTX 50 and Core Ultra 200 mini PC on the way

Nothing is ever too trashy for the kiddos. https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/asus-leaks-its-rog-nuc-2025-on-social-media-ahead-of-ces-debut-—-compact-gamer-focused-rtx-50-and-core-ultra-200-mini-pc-on-the-way.3867671/#post-23402890

 

[electrosoft]

Definitely a big *IF* with the 9070xt, but we know major advancements (for AMD) in RT for the 9070xt and if it is within 5% of a 4080 performance that puts it more towards 7900xtx than not. Then it comes down to pricing. $700 for near 7900xtx / 4080 performance and major advancements in RT? That is viable pricing depending on how Nvidia comes in with their 5070ti pricing. I hope ithe 9070xt comes in around $550 - $600, but I'm thinking $700 because "Greed is Good".

 

If it is in the 7900xt range, $600 or lower is viable.

 

Nvidia is just too strong on the top end 5080 and up. Maybe even 5070ti and up so Intel and AMD will go to war with nvidia on the lower and mid levels.

 

Let's not forget the 5070 is capped again with 12GB of VRAM so it looks like 5070ti is going to be the potential main competitor to the 9070xt.

 

B580 12GB 3060/4060 slayer for $250 is a major shot across the bow.

 

Hopefully AMD keeps the party going mid range.

 

My potential options:

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I have no problems picking up a used 7900xtx if I go that route.

Based on 4070 Super performance, I'm definitely curious about 5070 performance

9070xt will be interesting to see what it brings to the table

As always, I may not be able to resist the call of the 5090.....kicking myself as I place the order for a kings ransom 🤣

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I think a lot of it is with the 4070 Super I've had to turn off RT and I'm not really missing it (but still would take it). Even with a 4070 Super, I'm seeing CPU limitations in Raids and PvP which might just be a reality of the WoW engine it is so poorly threaded. Fallout 76 as noted before runs like a monster on X3D chips and the 4070 Super is pegged at 100% all the time on the 14900KS at 59/46/50 so I know I'll need something beefier to get a consistent 120fps everywhere especially on the 9800X3D as Fallout 76 does dip into the and 70s in multiplayer scenarios with the 4070 Super pegged at 100 unlike WoW.

 

 

 

 

[Talon]

On 12/24/2024 at 12:06 AM, tps3443 said:

Guys the Intel B580 is a RIPPER!! My son’s RTX3060 12GB is really fast! It will already outperform stock RTX 3060’s by about 15%. The reason for his really fast 3060 is because it’s a Strix OC with a +120 and +1350 overclock and of course the 210 watt bios helps. This completely stock B580 can outrun the heavy OC 3060 12GB by 50% in Firestrike.
 

Below is the 12900KS+3060 OCed+DDR5 6800, VS the stock 10900K/DDR4 3200/B580 all stock and all stock power limits. 
 

 

I picked up the Intel B580 Limited Edition from Newegg, traded in an old RTX 2060 KO to Newegg (they gave me $104 for it) and the Intel GPU is awesome. Incredible value card for $249, well actually only $145 after the trade in. And they through in a free game and 6 months of Ubisoft+. 

[Talon]

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Definitely a big *IF* with the 9070xt, but we know major advancements (for AMD) in RT for the 9070xt and if it is within 5% of a 4080 performance that puts it more towards 7900xtx than not. Then it comes down to pricing. $700 for near 7900xtx / 4080 performance and major advancements in RT? That is viable pricing depending on how Nvidia comes in with their 5070ti pricing. I hope ithe 9070xt comes in around $550 - $600, but I'm thinking $700 because "Greed is Good".

 

If it is in the 7900xt range, $600 or lower is viable.

 

Nvidia is just too strong on the top end 5080 and up. Maybe even 5070ti and up so Intel and AMD will go to war with nvidia on the lower and mid levels.

 

Let's not forget the 5070 is capped again with 12GB of VRAM so it looks like 5070ti is going to be the potential main competitor to the 9070xt.

 

B580 12GB 3060/4060 slayer for $250 is a major shot across the bow.

 

Hopefully AMD keeps the party going mid range.

 

My potential options:

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I have no problems picking up a used 7900xtx if I go that route.

Based on 4070 Super performance, I'm definitely curious about 5070 performance

9070xt will be interesting to see what it brings to the table

As always, I may not be able to resist the call of the 5090.....kicking myself as I place the order for a kings ransom 🤣

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I think a lot of it is with the 4070 Super I've had to turn off RT and I'm not really missing it (but still would take it). Even with a 4070 Super, I'm seeing CPU limitations in Raids and PvP which might just be a reality of the WoW engine it is so poorly threaded. Fallout 76 as noted before runs like a monster on X3D chips and the 4070 Super is pegged at 100% all the time on the 14900KS at 59/46/50 so I know I'll need something beefier to get a consistent 120fps everywhere especially on the 9800X3D as Fallout 76 does dip into the and 70s in multiplayer scenarios with the 4070 Super pegged at 100 unlike WoW.

 

 

 

 

 

Also thinking about running my 4070 Super and selling my 4090 Strix today. I've got multiple offers at $1500 local cash, and I think I'm going to take it. I don't need a 5090, but I know myself, and I know I'll do foolish things. I feel that's pretty fair value given I've used it over 2 years. 

[Mr. Fox]

Sad to share this news, but there were no interested buyers and the infamous @Enterprise from ExtremeHW.com (for years at overclock.net as a lead moderator before he opened ExtremeHW)  is shutting things down for good. I enjoyed interacting with several guys there and doing the hardware reviews.

 

If anyone has the time, desire and resources, you could take it over for free (no purchase)...

https://extremehw.net/topic/3923-extremehw-site-auction-bidding-ends-jan-1st/?do=findComment&comment=48336

 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sad to share this news, but there were no interested buyers and the infamous @Enterprise from ExtremeHW.com (for years at overclock.net as a lead moderator before he opened ExtremeHW)  is shutting things down for good. I enjoyed interacting with several guys there and doing the hardware reviews.

 

If anyone has the time, desire and resources, you could take it over for free (no purchase)...

https://extremehw.net/topic/3923-extremehw-site-auction-bidding-ends-jan-1st/?do=findComment&comment=48336

 

 

Sad to see. Performance enthusiast get less and less. And all this just follow same paths... Everything going the same way as it did for DTR laptops. Intel said gaming wasn't the main target for the new AL platform. Hope the non K chips ready to fly out from the shelves offer what the consumers want. 

 

Hmmm. Who'm to blame. The gamer, the game developer, MB manufacturer or Intel?

Massive performance drop with latest BIOS + MC + ME. Memory latency increased from ~69ns to ~80ns. I've run out of patience with this platform.

 

 

 Maybe Intel can please you with some cheaper chips to offset the disapointment with the new platform? For those who were interested in having a next-gen Intel CPUs the Core Ultra 3 could be the solution. Because it belongs to the same family as the rest of the Core Ultra CPUs

Intel's cheapest CPU for gaming PCs will be the Core Ultra 3 205 with 8 Cores and almost 5 GHz!

Intel releases a new generation of processors every year, giving it an advantage over AMD, which typically takes two years or more. While Intel does have newer CPUs available, it doesn't always get the next generation right and it's not always easy to get it right.

[electrosoft]

7 hours ago, Talon said:

 

I picked up the Intel B580 Limited Edition from Newegg, traded in an old RTX 2060 KO to Newegg (they gave me $104 for it) and the Intel GPU is awesome. Incredible value card for $249, well actually only $145 after the trade in. And they through in a free game and 6 months of Ubisoft+. 

 

I think I'll pick one up for my nephew who is still rocking the original A380 I picked up on Intel's initial launch when I built him his first gaming PC. He's been rocking it for over a year now and loves it but said a few games run a little slow (It is an A380). A B580 would be a monster upgrade for him.

 

I will of course have to, ummm, certify the card first with some testing and data gathering before passing it on to him. 🙂

 

 

6 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Also thinking about running my 4070 Super and selling my 4090 Strix today. I've got multiple offers at $1500 local cash, and I think I'm going to take it. I don't need a 5090, but I know myself, and I know I'll do foolish things. I feel that's pretty fair value given I've used it over 2 years. 

 

Yeah, I went back and forth over selling it because it was a monster bin and gave me almost two years of rock solid service but with prices holding so nicely atm (late november / early december) and knowing myself that as soon as the 5090 dropped I wouldn't look at my 4090 the same I was left with no alternative.

 

If I purposely go lower spec I'm always ok with that. I've done it before and I don't regret the cost savings. So if I pick up a 5070 or a 9070XT, I'll be ok because the cost savings cancels out the remorse.

 

If I held onto the 4090 and the 5090 dropped knowing I could have sold it for what I bought it for and picked up a 5090 later? That would eat at me as I would still end up either selling the 4090 at a greater loss than if I had sold it a few months prior and then still either pick up a cost effective card or just empty the till and get a 5090.

 

And you were right. The 4070 Super is an absolute banger at its price point. Obviously not a 4090, but less than a third of the cost and provides ~half the performance.

 

9070XT is launching by the end of January so reviews will be out right about then to get an idea. Hopefully newer rumors trump @Papusan's links but knowing AMD......

 

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sad to share this news, but there were no interested buyers and the infamous @Enterprise from ExtremeHW.com (for years at overclock.net as a lead moderator before he opened ExtremeHW)  is shutting things down for good. I enjoyed interacting with several guys there and doing the hardware reviews.

 

If anyone has the time, desire and resources, you could take it over for free (no purchase)...

https://extremehw.net/topic/3923-extremehw-site-auction-bidding-ends-jan-1st/?do=findComment&comment=48336

 

 

So sorry to read. I had a membership over there, but didn't frequent it as much as I should have. The costs aren't too high to take it over (~$235/mo), but I'm sure time invested in actually maintaining it can get high. Yet again, kudos to @Reciever for keeping the spirit of NBR alive here at NBT. 🧡

[electrosoft]

@Mr. Fox did you see over on the OC X3D forums AM5 might be getting an Apex variant? Safedisk posting some benchmarks and people pointing to signs....

 

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29408997/

 

 

On the Ultra 285k front, Provantage is still rocking over 1500 tray samples in stock and now over 250 boxed editions in stock

 

Get 'em while they're hot! 🤣

[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

@Mr. Fox did you see over on the OC X3D forums AM5 might be getting an Apex variant? Safedisk posting some benchmarks and people pointing to signs....

 

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29408997/

 

 

On the Ultra 285k front, Provantage is still rocking over 1500 tray samples in stock and now over 250 boxed editions in stock

 

Get 'em while they're hot! 🤣

The question is, will it even be available? And how absurd will the price be? Or will it be like the Z790 version and only available to a few lucky buyers with perfect timing. For many it has felt more like a publicity stunt than anything else.

 

Intel needs to get back on track. 285K is a perma-broken joke. With only 24T and no HT 285K can't be taken seriously. Obsolete prior to release. No forgiveness available because you can't fix stupid.

 

The purchase of the 9950X is my way of drawing a line in the sand. It didn't need to be a better product than 285K, it only needed to be not retarded.

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

The question is, will it even be available? And how absurd will the price be? Or will it be like the Z790 version and only available to a few lucky buyers with perfect timing. For many it has felt more like a publicity stunt than anything else.

 

Intel needs to get back on track. 285K is a perma-broken joke. With only 24T and no HT 285K can't be taken seriously. Obsolete prior to release. No forgiveness available because you can't fix stupid.

 

The purchase of the 9950X is my way of drawing a line in the sand. It didn't need to be a better product than 285K, it only needed to be not retarded.

 

Well, they're charging $670 for the Hero, so all bets are off with the Apex but we will see how it stacks up overall and against the Gene. Makes sense why we didn't see a Gene for x870e though if it comes to market.

 

Zero chance of me going 285k this time around. Plenty available but I'm good. If AM5 doesn't pan out during round 2 of trying, I'll just stick with my 14900KS. Hopefully Nova Lake is much better.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Well, they're charging $670 for the Hero, so all bets are off with the Apex but we will see how it stacks up overall and against the Gene. Makes sense why we didn't see a Gene for x870e though if it comes to market.

 

Zero chance of me going 285k this time around. Plenty available but I'm good. If AM5 doesn't pan out during round 2 of trying, I'll just stick with my 14900KS. Hopefully Nova Lake is much better.

The Gene definitely is not an ideal solution. Form factor alone is a severe strike against it. I don't have it yet, so I can't say what I think of it. Its only noteworthy virtue is the fact that it is not compromised and degraded as an idiotic 4-DIMM abortion like virutally everything else. Hopefully I will see it as good enough that I will find a way to overlook what I already view as faults and design defects. The only thing that is actually desirable about an mATX motherboard design is that it is not iTX. The Gene may be a rare exception. I view the Z90i Edge as a rare exception for iTX acceptability, but really only because of 2-DIMM config and respectable overclocking.

 

Who knows what they'll charge for the X870E Apex and how much extra will get tacked on by dishonest retailers and scalpers, or how limited the availability will be. All part of their despicable scumbag plan to keep profit margins high, I reckon. The Gene is obsolete and still selling for $200 more than it was worth when it was cutting edge. And, sourcing one isn't easy. 

 

Yeah, the Core Ultra thing is just really sad by every measurement. If Nova Lake is not any better, then I think the future for high performance PCs will be hopeless. AMD is already showing us again they're really not serious about winning with their latest GPU launch. If they don't have Intel gnawing at their ankles and trying to make them look bad on the CPU side they'll do worse and offer less.

 

The entire performance and gaming PC industry is circling the drain. We're overdue for a hard reset. If and when we reboot we need to deny life support to all of the retarded and dishonest OEMs making stupid decisions. A$$zeus needs to be the first one we unplug and flat-line. Do not rescuscitate. The question is, is there another one good enough that is less scummy? Probably not. That much is evident by the fact that they're all peddling sucky 4-DIMM trash boards as industry standard.

  

21 hours ago, Papusan said:

Intel's cheapest CPU for gaming PCs will be the Core Ultra 3 205 with 8 Cores and almost 5 GHz!

They'll never get back on my shopping list with pathetic limp-wristed mama's boy trash like that on offer. Is 5.0GHz supposed to be something impressive? Since when, maybe like 10 years ago?

[Talon]

13 hours ago, electrosoft said:

@Mr. Fox did you see over on the OC X3D forums AM5 might be getting an Apex variant? Safedisk posting some benchmarks and people pointing to signs....

 

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29408997/

 

 

On the Ultra 285k front, Provantage is still rocking over 1500 tray samples in stock and now over 250 boxed editions in stock

 

Get 'em while they're hot! 🤣

 

More importantly that is CKD CUDIMM memory kit on AM5. 

[Mr. Fox]

21 minutes ago, Talon said:

More importantly that is CKD CUDIMM memory kit on AM5. 

It's unfortunate there is not an AIDA64 memory benchmark in that Safedisk screenshot. I find it a bit annoying that this is frequently omitted from AMD memory overclocking screenshots because it makes it hard for me to gauge my tuning success with rarely anything to compare with.

 

The Apex is sure to be irrationally overpriced simply because it is a ROG part and severe overpricing is status quo with A$$zeus. Add a decent CU DIMM kit to that and I bet it is going to be excessively expensive.

[Talon]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It's unfortunate there is not an AIDA64 memory benchmark in that Safedisk screenshot. I find it a bit annoying that this is frequently omitted from AMD memory overclocking screenshots because it makes it hard for me to gauge my tuning success with rarely anything to compare with.

 

The Apex is sure to be irrationally overpriced simply because it is a ROG part and severe overpricing is status quo with A$$zeus. Add a decent CU DIMM kit to that and I bet it is going to be excessively expensive.

 

I guess it's entirely possible the kit is just running in bypass mode and not able to use the CKD chip. But yea I agree, they need to include a latency/throughput test. 

[Papusan]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

They'll never get back on my shopping list with pathetic limp-wristed mama's boy trash like that on offer. Is 5.0GHz supposed to be something impressive? Since when, maybe like 10 years ago?

 

What with the coming flood of non K chips where Intel finallly can grab some profits fromTSMC silicon? People have asked for power efficiency so Intel will deliver on their promises. How it perform in games doesn't really matter. Intel said gaming is only a small part of what you can use processors for. Also these new locked down AL chips will offer decent single core performance

 

Intel Core Ultra 200 “non-K” Arrow Lake CPUs pictured, new Core Ultra 5 230F on sale in China
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200-non-k-arrow-lake-cpus-pictured-new-core-ultra-5-230f-on-sale-in-china

[Mr. Fox]

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

What with the coming flood of non K chips where Intel finallly can grab some profits fromTSMC silicon? People have asked for power efficiency so Intel will deliver on their promises. How it perform in games doesn't really matter. Intel said gaming is only a small part of what you can use processors for. Also these new locked down AL chips will offer decent single core performance

 

Intel Core Ultra 200 “non-K” Arrow Lake CPUs pictured, new Core Ultra 5 230F on sale in China
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200-non-k-arrow-lake-cpus-pictured-new-core-ultra-5-230f-on-sale-in-china

If they mute the performance they can squeeze out an additional 15 minutes more on turdbook battery life and shave 0.5mm off the thickness. That will bring glee to the sheeple.  😑

[Papusan]

 

Happy New Year 2025 to you all from Papusan. I have already fired up all the rockets😀

 

Yup, the photo is taken from my trash-phone after sendind my money up in the air. Full bling bling.

 

Yup, Razer can't do it much better. Only more expensive. Sorry I couldn't do it in all white, HaHa

 

Not sure how many times I have moved away snow this winter. Jep, not happy with this white thingy. 

 

 

I rather prefer the green winters we usually have from Jun-Aug here up in the cold North. But you can't have it all🙂