*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Neweggs used RTX 4090 Trade-in value= $1,600 dollars now! 😂 (That’s pretty dang good) especially for trading in a Gaming OC. I can see people moving to a 5090 with such a good return on 4090’s. 
 

The 5090 inventory looks to be completely stabilized now, almost every model available and in-stock.
 

 

 

 

I can see people holding onto their 4090s unless they want a 5090FE and even then you have to dig in your pocket for +400 + tax additional for a model not desired. If not, that trade in PLUS 1000-1200 more is what you will spend for a Windforce which is the cheapest one atm.

 

Want a more desireable Master? That's +1400 + tax or 2x as much as you're getting for your 4090. Suprim? Adios +1500 + tax. Astral? Sayonara to +1759 + tax.

 

I agree inventory is flush and getting more flush every day so either prices will come down a bit (as they have for the PNYs already) or inventories will stagnate.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Neweggs used RTX 4090 Trade-in value= $1,600 dollars now! 😂 (That’s pretty dang good) especially for trading in a Gaming OC. I can see people moving to a 5090 with such a good return on 4090’s. 
 

The 5090 inventory looks to be completely stabilized now, almost every model available and in-stock.
 

 

That is an absolutely great trade-in value considering that is almost new MSRP for that GPU. But, if something seems to good to be true it probably is. There is an underlying motivation that we are not seeing and I can just about guarantee you that it is ultimately not going to be for the benefit of consumers. Someone else is going to benefit from it, not NewEgg's customers. It's not a generous gesture of goodwill. NewEgg is playing the auto dealership scam. Give you more than your trade-in is worth and then more than make up for it when they screw you six ways to Sunday on an overpriced new car. If it were a legit thing they would cash you out for $1600 nstead of giving credit on a new GPU purchase.

 

Plus, it's still not enough money to offset the extreme overpricing of the 5090. I think stock has "stabilized" (aka sales have stagnated) only because people that would have wanted a 5090 have figured out they are getting sodomized and decided to not pay twice what one is worth. That describes where I am at with it. Do I want one? Yes. Am I willing to buy one? No, absolutely not. You're basically spending what it would take to buy two 4090s without getting double the performance and only having one GPU left in the end. That sucks real bad.

 

If it was priced to value I would buy a 5090 and keep my 4090 to use in my second PC or have it on-hand as a spare. So, what seems like a good deal on the surface is still a truly horrible deal and the high trade-in price is probably nothing more than a desperate attempt to move stock on overpriced 5090 cards that are going to start losing value because not enough people are willing to take a shot in the heiney hole to have one.

 

What I think might happen, or at least what I would like to happen, is AMD is going to launch another flagship that sells for half the cost of a 5090, runs like a 5080 or 4090 and all of these $3000+ abortions are going to suddenly not be sellable unless they slash the pricing 30% to 50%. I really hope that is what happens. It's exactly what NVIDIA and the greedy AIB partners deserve to have happen to them. They need to be pushed to the edge of the bankruptcy cliff. Not over, but close enough to scare the crap out of them. It needs to hurt so bad and hurt for long enough that they will not want to try it again any time soon. They don't care about us, so we need to stop caring about them. Our actions need put them into self-defense/survival mode. Those that will be hurt the most will be the poor unfortunate suckers that already drank the Kool-Aid and paid absolutely insane prices for a 5090.

 

Does this mean I like AMD now? Nope. It doesn't and I don't. AMD sucks. But, putting up with their mediocrity and face-melting hotspot temps and slow VRAM  is a better alternative than getting screwed. Look back over the months that have passed since 5090 first launched and take a talley on all of the missteps and shenanigans that have taken place. Besides not being worth it monetarily a lot of stuff was totally botched up. And, we still have the sucky 12VHPWR NVIDIA arson PCIe power connectors.