amd Ryzen 9 7945HX beats i9 13980HX in multi-core while using less power

[win32asmguy]

39 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

Quite the powerhouse with 16 equally strong cores while Intel continues to only have 8 P-cores.

 

Looking forward to see what it can do in some workstations but I doubt we will see much of it in the higher end versions that usually have some kind of Intel / Thunderbolt combo.

 

Has anybody tried loading Windows 10 on a 7945hx system yet? Curious how it would run if drivers are compatible.

 

Do these chips have support for four ranks per channel, so they can be taken up to 128gb/192gb?

 

I also wonder if Alienware is going to have m18 configurations with 7945hx and 4080/4090 as 7600m would be a poor max spec given what the CPU can do.

 

Sadly my Mech 17 GP2 is freezing after bootup (even in the bios) so it needs to be sent back.

[1610ftw]

2 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

Has anybody tried loading Windows 10 on a 7945hx system yet? Curious how it would run if drivers are compatible.

 

Do these chips have support for four ranks per channel, so they can be taken up to 128gb/192gb?

 

I also wonder if Alienware is going to have m18 configurations with 7945hx and 4080/4090 as 7600m would be a poor max spec given what the CPU can do.

 

Sadly my Mech 17 GP2 is freezing after bootup (even in the bios) so it needs to be sent back.

 

 

AMD lists it as W10 compatible but with support varying by manufacturer:

 

Only 64GB (and probably soon 96GB) memory though which is a complete and utter joke for this kind of CPU:

 

 

Just made me lose all interest and it probably also means that it will not be seen in top of the line workstations.

 

With AMD being AMD I would not be surprised if Alienware will only have it in AMD only laptops.

 

AMD page:

https://www.amd.com/en/product/13016

 

And sorry to hear about your Mech 17. It looked like you were quite happy with it apart from the issue you are having now?

 

[win32asmguy]

On 3/15/2023 at 5:20 PM, 1610ftw said:

And sorry to hear about your Mech 17. It looked like you were quite happy with it apart from the issue you are having now?

 

Yeah it was working pretty well before it started freezing up. It is pretty usable as a DTR hooked up to one or two external displays and a keyboard + mouse. But on the go the combination of the high DPI lcd at 100% scaling, non-standard keyboard layout with noisy mechanical keys and oversized trackpad make it hard for me to use.

 

I think they plan to release a model with 7945hx later this year. It could be a great performer especially if they pair it with a 4090 and the hardware can still unofficially support Windows 10. Supposedly they are also going to offer the membrane keyboard (same as XMG) on the 17 inch model at some point as well.

[electrosoft]

On 3/13/2023 at 9:56 PM, 1610ftw said:

Without taxes the 4080 in its cheapest config comes out to $2251,65 with your 15% coupon and with the mechanical keyboard and an upgrade to W11 Pro we are looking at $2375,74.

 

Not too bad for a much more solid chassis than the Asus G18.

 

On 3/14/2023 at 12:16 AM, ssj92 said:

Asus G18 built quality is no where near Alienware m18. 

 

My friend was going to get G18 with 4080 until I showed him the m18 and helped him get the 15% coupon. He will get his m18 one day before me since he paid for next day shipping lol. I get free 2-day air with my dell account, he's more impatient than me. 

 

BAH! My G18 rules you all....

 

....till I return it next week. 🙂

 

 

[ssj92]

@Rengsey R. H. Jr.has g18 right now and ordered m18.

 

he’s returning g18 if that’s any indication 😉

[electrosoft]

12 hours ago, ssj92 said:

@Rengsey R. H. Jr.has g18 right now and ordered m18.

 

he’s returning g18 if that’s any indication 😉

 

Yeah my G18 is already boxed up for return. I've worked with it for a few weeks now and it isn't even a build quality issue but lack of tuning and temps shooting to 100c while gaming. I waited for the 307 BIOS to drop which fixes the undervolt issue (BIOS limit is 0.080 but for some reason would cap at 0.030) and even with a 0.080 max UV it is still shooting to 100c gaming even in something not even CPU taxing like Fallout 76. Same issue with the MSI GL66 Pulse (12700h). If I can't tune it after maximizing physical cooling to keep it from cooking (and fans running at max) it has to go.

 

Other issue is the display has monstrous bleed all over especially along the bottom on the 2560x1600 panel.

 

It is limited to 4800 memory. Even when testing 5600 or 4800 memory with faster timings it simply won't boot. Just blank screens.

 

Coil whine is pretty monstrous.

 

GPU pegs to 87c (max) when gaming even with zero OC.

 

Tiny barrel connector screams solder break.

 

1yr warranty.

 

And a few other issues.

 

Did a couple of M18 test configs on the Dell site and you can beat the price easy with the 15% discount. I will wait till you all get your units in to see if I want to pick one up.

 

Somehow I've managed to sell off ALL my laptops except the NH55 which I plan on keeping for quite some time as a fun pet project.

 

 

[ssj92]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

Yeah my G18 is already boxed up for return. I've worked with it for a few weeks now and it isn't even a build quality issue but lack of tuning and temps shooting to 100c while gaming. I waited for the 307 BIOS to drop which fixes the undervolt issue (BIOS limit is 0.080 but for some reason would cap at 0.030) and even with a 0.080 max UV it is still shooting to 100c gaming even in something not even CPU taxing like Fallout 76. Same issue with the MSI GL66 Pulse (12700h). If I can't tune it after maximizing physical cooling to keep it from cooking (and fans running at max) it has to go.

 

Other issue is the display has monstrous bleed all over especially along the bottom on the 2560x1600 panel.

 

It is limited to 4800 memory. Even when testing 5600 or 4800 memory with faster timings it simply won't boot. Just blank screens.

 

Coil whine is pretty monstrous.

 

GPU pegs to 87c (max) when gaming even with zero OC.

 

Tiny barrel connector screams solder break.

 

1yr warranty.

 

And a few other issues.

 

Did a couple of M18 test configs on the Dell site and you can beat the price easy with the 15% discount. I will wait till you all get your units in to see if I want to pick one up.

 

Somehow I've managed to sell off ALL my laptops except the NH55 which I plan on keeping for quite some time as a fun pet project.

 

 

He had the exact same issues. 
 

insane amount of light bleed

horrible coil whine 

not so great build quality 

cpu performance not good. 
 

I mean I don’t expect the m18 to be trouble free either but I’m sure it’ll have a lot more options 

[saturnotaku]

On 3/15/2023 at 9:11 AM, win32asmguy said:

Sadly my Mech 17 GP2 is freezing after bootup (even in the bios) so it needs to be sent back.

 

Significant quality control problems with a Tongfang-based laptop. Surmise my surprise.

[kojack]

 

On 3/19/2023 at 10:19 PM, saturnotaku said:

 

Significant quality control problems with a Tongfang-based laptop. Surmise my surprise.

Say it ain't so. I called that out years ago on the other forum.  Tongfang are not the be all end all, not even by a long shot.

 

[1610ftw]

On 3/20/2023 at 11:41 AM, kojack said:

 

Say it ain't so. I called that out years ago on the other forum.  Tongfang are not the be all end all, not even by a long shot.

 

 

Just have a look at this:

 

Problems with TongFang / Uniwill based XMG laptops:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc2DDklgiJU

 

 

I still think they have pretty good laptop designs but quality seems to be an issue to a higher degree than with other maufacturers.

 

 

[kojack]

11 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Just have a look at this:

 

Problems with TongFang / Uniwill based XMG laptops:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc2DDklgiJU

 

 

I still think they have pretty good laptop designs but quality seems to be an issue to a higher degree than with other maufacturers.

 

 

That's exactly what I'm talking about.  Quality control.