Official Clevo X170SM-G Thread

[MaxxD]

I did "Override" and since then no picture or sound. I took out the CMOS battery and the battery and it was not connected to the network either. I put it together after 10 minutes, but there is no picture. Shortly after switching on, the keyboard turned blue and that was it. What can be done with this? Is the machine trash? 🙄🤔

 

[srs2236]

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And my BCLK is not 100, but only 99.8 and I don't know why!?

 

It is because your BCLK is in downspread mode and it is set to 50%. This is the default in almost all computers so that's why.

[MaxxD]

I have already solved it by rounding the value to 100.😉

[MaxxD]

12 hours ago, MaxxD said:

I did "Override" and since then no picture or sound. I took out the CMOS battery and the battery and it was not connected to the network either. I put it together after 10 minutes, but there is no picture. Shortly after switching on, the keyboard turned blue and that was it. What can be done with this? Is the machine trash? 🙄🤔

 

 

How can this be fixed? Full BIOS reset? CMOS battery and laptop battery were removed and FN+D (20 sec) was also tried, but no result. No picture after power on. Keyboard RGB then changes to blue after 20-30 seconds and does nothing. Can this be fixed somehow?🤔😌

[MiRaGe]

Bios chip reflash with CH341A programmer. You've bricked your bios.

But first try:

1. insert only one stick of ram in bottom lower slot.

2. Take out the CMOS battery plug, insert the main battery and start the laptop. It won't post.

3. Turn it off. Plug the CMOS battery in, insert the main battery and start again.

 

If this doesn't fix it - you have to open the laptop and manually reflash the bios chip with CH341A.

If you have Prema bios, you are gonna lose it.

[srs2236]

2 hours ago, MiRaGe said:

Bios chip reflash with CH341A programmer. You've bricked your bios.

But first try:

1. insert only one stick of ram in bottom lower slot.

2. Take out the CMOS battery plug, insert the main battery and start the laptop. It won't post.

3. Turn it off. Plug the CMOS battery in, insert the main battery and start again.

 

If this doesn't fix it - you have to open the laptop and manually reflash the bios chip with CH341A.

If you have Prema bios, you are gonna lose it.

Maybe somebody can fix the BIOS afterwards though.

[MaxxD]

4 hours ago, MiRaGe said:

Bios chip reflash with CH341A programmer. You've bricked your bios.

But first try:

1. insert only one stick of ram in bottom lower slot.

2. Take out the CMOS battery plug, insert the main battery and start the laptop. It won't post.

3. Turn it off. Plug the CMOS battery in, insert the main battery and start again.

 

If this doesn't fix it - you have to open the laptop and manually reflash the bios chip with CH341A.

If you have Prema bios, you are gonna lose it.

 

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, it didn't turn out well. I did everything as you wrote.

[MiRaGe]

This means only one thing…- you have to disassembly your laptop and flash your bios chip with a CH341A Programmer…

[MaxxD]

1 hour ago, MiRaGe said:

This means only one thing…- you have to disassembly your laptop and flash your bios chip with a CH341A Programmer…

 

Yes. Looks like it will be needed. Original zTecpc Prema BIOS is saved fortunately. (you can even get off the machine if needed)

[MaxxD]

Unfortunately, the source of the error has been found. The BIOS reset didn't work because there is nothing to do. I don't know how this happened. I know someone who does it. I hope something will come out of this machine this year. 🙄

 

[MiRaGe]

Is this the bios chip or the EC chip?

[MaxxD]

25 minutes ago, MiRaGe said:

Is this the bios chip or the EC chip?

 

BIOS Chip. 

It rots at leg 5. (Si / IO0)

 

 

[MaxxD]

zTecpc said that the machine is from Sager, and Sager tells me to ask zTecpc for Prema BIOS, which I can put on it. Each points to the other. But that's good. No comment!☝️🤔

 

I thought I would ask for help, software support. I will solve the hardware part, I know a specialist who deals with this. The BIOS chip is arriving.

[MaxxD]

I managed to get the original Prema BIOS for my machine from the laptop manufacturer (with great difficulty). For safety's sake, it's good to have this as well. Although I previously also saved the entire BIOS from the machine, I thought that if there was a way, I would get it from the manufacturer. Gluten! ✌️🤝

 

[MaxxD]

On 7/27/2024 at 10:03 PM, MaxxD said:

What do you think the result is?
Not bad right?😋

 

 

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[Kharstraetor]

Hi everyone! I'm one of the 'lost' members of the old forums and I need some help - if anyone actually can or would be kind enough to do so!

 

My factory warranty finally expired on my SMG and I had been waiting for a while to replace the paste used as the thermals had been horrendous and getting worse (75 degrees Celsius idle package temperature), so I took the beast apart and found the paste was pretty much non-existent, except for around the edges of the CPU and GPU where it was thoroughly baked on (stupid CPU screws were too tight, too, but that another story).

 

Long story short, I ended up breaking off one of the CPU socket pins... (This is also a story for another day, involving three German Shepherds, a carrot, a 4 year old boy and a lost Staffordshire Bullterrier...).

 

I'm fairly confident that I already know the answers, yet thought i'd ask around here for guidance and more knowledgeable opinions...

 

1.  With the pin broken, I assume I need to replace the motherboard?
2.  If i replace the motherboard, do I need to waste Prema's time and efforts again to re-install the personalised BIOS?

3.  Could I use the KMG motherboards instead with the current RAM/GPU etc.?
4.  Where should I look to get a replacement motherboard if needed?

Your help and assistance would be greatly, and desperately, appreciated!

[MaxxD]

The patient has risen! Unfortunately, he had a lot of trouble! I don't even know how it got here. Full voltage had to be rebuilt and many parts replaced, according to the specialist. The i9 won't work in it. i7-10700T was tested, which works perfectly. i7-10700K will still be tested....just in case!? CPU socket contact legs (a few pieces are missing), the contact surface is missing, somehow melted.

 

 

[Bidelloman]

23 hours ago, Kharstraetor said:

Hi everyone! I'm one of the 'lost' members of the old forums and I need some help - if anyone actually can or would be kind enough to do so!

 

My factory warranty finally expired on my SMG and I had been waiting for a while to replace the paste used as the thermals had been horrendous and getting worse (75 degrees Celsius idle package temperature), so I took the beast apart and found the paste was pretty much non-existent, except for around the edges of the CPU and GPU where it was thoroughly baked on (stupid CPU screws were too tight, too, but that another story).

 

Long story short, I ended up breaking off one of the CPU socket pins... (This is also a story for another day, involving three German Shepherds, a carrot, a 4 year old boy and a lost Staffordshire Bullterrier...).

 

I'm fairly confident that I already know the answers, yet thought i'd ask around here for guidance and more knowledgeable opinions...

 

1.  With the pin broken, I assume I need to replace the motherboard?
2.  If i replace the motherboard, do I need to waste Prema's time and efforts again to re-install the personalised BIOS?

3.  Could I use the KMG motherboards instead with the current RAM/GPU etc.?
4.  Where should I look to get a replacement motherboard if needed?

Your help and assistance would be greatly, and desperately, appreciated!

1) not sure pins can be replaced easily by a user

2) you do need to get prema bios back somehow yes

3)kmg motherboard is actually reasonably different, moreover, no prema there, but there are other bios mods

4) where you bought it I assume? clevo's shop, or any other clevo reseller, could try ebay maybe?

[MaxxD]

3 hours ago, MaxxD said:

The patient has risen! Unfortunately, he had a lot of trouble! I don't even know how it got here. Full voltage had to be rebuilt and many parts replaced, according to the specialist. The i9 won't work in it. i7-10700T was tested, which works perfectly. i7-10700K will still be tested....just in case!? CPU socket contact legs (a few pieces are missing), the contact surface is missing, somehow melted.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, the K processor does not work in it. I have to think about what to do. i7-10700T processor works perfectly. Unfortunately, I cannot get a motherboard, not even from a distributor. Anyone have any ideas? Anyway, it didn't start now, this state just came! That's all about the used Clevo machine...

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't have many choices, I think I'll keep the 10700T cpu and use it...and that's how I'll go to the grave!🤔🙄🥲

[1610ftw]

21 hours ago, MaxxD said:

 

Unfortunately, the K processor does not work in it. I have to think about what to do. i7-10700T processor works perfectly. Unfortunately, I cannot get a motherboard, not even from a distributor. Anyone have any ideas? Anyway, it didn't start now, this state just came! That's all about the used Clevo machine...

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't have many choices, I think I'll keep the 10700T cpu and use it...and that's how I'll go to the grave!🤔🙄🥲

 

Sorry to hear that, this sucks 😞

 

Of course it is nice that the 10700T is working but a max clock of 4.5GHz is really disappointing, probably more like 4.0 or 4.1 all core?

 

Which K Processor does not work, the 10900K?

And has that CPU been verified to work in another system?

 

 

[Kharstraetor]

On 11/14/2024 at 11:42 PM, MaxxD said:

 

Unfortunately, the K processor does not work in it. I have to think about what to do. i7-10700T processor works perfectly. Unfortunately, I cannot get a motherboard, not even from a distributor. Anyone have any ideas? Anyway, it didn't start now, this state just came! That's all about the used Clevo machine...

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't have many choices, I think I'll keep the 10700T cpu and use it...and that's how I'll go to the grave!🤔🙄🥲

 

If it helps, I found SM motherboards available at: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/124786780226.

I also found out that it is possible to replace the CPU socket itself, although it would require the use of a Rework Station to cook the socket off of, and back on to, the board. Replacement sockets are also dirt cheap with the Rework Station costing a small bit of money - less than the cost of a new board, though. It seems that the only reason to avoid socket replacement would be the likely <100% success rate, as sometimes the new socket does not work 100%. I am unsure whether the success rate would improve with practice/experience.

 

 

[Kharstraetor]

On 11/14/2024 at 8:54 PM, Bidelloman said:

1) not sure pins can be replaced easily by a user

2) you do need to get prema bios back somehow yes

3)kmg motherboard is actually reasonably different, moreover, no prema there, but there are other bios mods

4) where you bought it I assume? clevo's shop, or any other clevo reseller, could try ebay maybe?

 

Many thanks for the response, buddy! I appreciate it! I expected those answers, yet hoped I had missed something.

[MaxxD]

9 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Sorry to hear that, this sucks 😞

 

Of course it is nice that the 10700T is working but a max clock of 4.5GHz is really disappointing, probably more like 4.0 or 4.1 all core?

 

Which K Processor does not work, the 10900K?

And has that CPU been verified to work in another system?

 

 

 

70W+ its okay. 🙂

Unfortunately, neither. Tried i9-10900K and i7-10700K.

 

4 hours ago, Kharstraetor said:

 

If it helps, I found SM motherboards available at: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/124786780226.

I also found out that it is possible to replace the CPU socket itself, although it would require the use of a Rework Station to cook the socket off of, and back on to, the board. Replacement sockets are also dirt cheap with the Rework Station costing a small bit of money - less than the cost of a new board, though. It seems that the only reason to avoid socket replacement would be the likely <100% success rate, as sometimes the new socket does not work 100%. I am unsure whether the success rate would improve with practice/experience.

 

 

 

Thanks!

Im looking to next time.

 

As far as I know, an official distributor, if you get something like this back, they will send it from a Chinese manufacturer and replace the cpu socket with a machine. This was not done elsewhere, it was only fixed there. So it's not easy.

[1610ftw]

1 hour ago, MaxxD said:

 

70W+ its okay. 🙂

Unfortunately, neither. Tried i9-10900K and i7-10700K.

 

Do you think it is a power uptake limitation?

I would not be surprised about that.

 

If it is "only" an issue with K-Processors then you could look into getting one of the fast Xeons that go up to over 5 Ghz, like the W-1290P that can be had for not so much money and goes up to I think 4.8GHz all cores and 5.3 single core.

I have no idea though if it is supported, maybe check with @Prema.

 

Or maybe it is power and you cannot use 125W CPUs any more. Then you could check out a 10900F with 5.2/4.6 single and all core and 65W. It is quite a bit more costly though than the 125W 1290P. In any case I would try to work around the CPU issue instead of getting a new motherboard, too much money and work if you can get enough performance out of another CPU.

[MaxxD]

1 hour ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Do you think it is a power uptake limitation?

I would not be surprised about that.

 

If it is "only" an issue with K-Processors then you could look into getting one of the fast Xeons that go up to over 5 Ghz, like the W-1290P that can be had for not so much money and goes up to I think 4.8GHz all cores and 5.3 single core.

I have no idea though if it is supported, maybe check with @Prema.

 

Or maybe it is power and you cannot use 125W CPUs any more. Then you could check out a 10900F with 5.2/4.6 single and all core and 65W. It is quite a bit more costly though than the 125W 1290P. In any case I would try to work around the CPU issue instead of getting a new motherboard, too much money and work if you can get enough performance out of another CPU.

 

And if I bought a KM-G card? I would build it into the SM-G housing and put in the SM-G components. (i9-10900KF, 4x32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL20 RAM, 4x2TB M.2 SSD, RTX 3080 16GB MXM card...) is this not a good idea?🤔😁

 

Prema BIOS is not included (KM-G), but you can certainly open that BIOS if necessary!(?)