MSI 1070 Longevity? Aetina 1070 Viability?

[Naberius]

Hi, all. Two questions in one post...

 

First: Did anyone else have their MSI 1070 flame out after a few years? I ask because...

1. The first one (that I purchased in 2019) died in January 2022 (graphics output artifacting, laptop acting like it was having a heart attack)
2. When I looked around for a replacement, they were seemingly impossible to find; Even Eurocom said that their on-hand stock didn't pass tests and had effectively gone bad on the shelf.
3. The second one I purchased (by... cannibalizing an MSI laptop I picked up on Kijiji) died in the same way as the first... last month.
4. In both cases, I don't think I missed anything in butting-up the components against the heatsink; The first one I used silicone pads... The second one I used K5 Pro... Both cards lived relatively cool lives never going above 65 degrees under load...

 

Second: Did anyone try out the... standard-MXM-sized-1070 in their M17xR4 or 17r1? I believe they were an Aetina design (could be wrong on that). They're seemingly going down in price on eBay... And I reckon one of those might be a reasonable (albeit somewhat slower) fit? 

[Tenoroon]

May I ask what revision MSI 1070's you had? If you had the revisions 1.0 cards, those are of worse build quality in comparison to the revision 1.2 cards and from what I can remember, have some problems operating at elevated voltages.

If your cards were revision 1.2 cards, then you might just have some bad luck. However, with how old these cards are getting and how they were built, it might just be the beginning of the end for them sadly. 

I've tried two of those standard MXM 3.0 1070s in my 17 R1, but they never worked well. If you can find one for cheap enough and you have a refund window, go for it, but the two I tried never worked right and didn't get along with the BIOS all too well.

[Naberius]

First was a ver 1.0

The second was... a ver 1.2... Interesting.

 

We'll see how the standard-sized card works - a vendor on eBay is blowing them out for $200usd with a 30day return window.

They've apparently sold... like 40.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/164357449828

 

[Csupati]

I used gecube  1060 , p3000, p3200, ebay china 1060 , every one of the still working .

Probably you cut out the base for the Msi card to fit,  there is no chance its make contact with the base,  you fully dissssembled the laptop and no shaving left in it?

[Naberius]

Correct - I removed a full section from the laptop chassis to make room after a full disassembly. Two 1070s died in the same way (over the course of years). Whenever a GPU died, I was able to roll to a 970m I had lying around without issue.

[Csupati]

3 hours ago, Naberius said:

Correct - I removed a full section from the laptop chassis to make room after a full disassembly. Two 1070s died in the same way (over the course of years). Whenever a GPU died, I was able to roll to a 970m I had lying around without issue.

Whats the full build ,like cpu rams display? What psu are u using?

[Naberius]

i7-3940XM | MSI GTX1070 | 32GB DDR3 | 120hz screen | 330w PSU

[Csupati]

Im thinking about you are doing something wrong with the termal pads,  van you do a pic how you done the thermal pads?

[Naberius]

It's entirely possible I fouled something up in an unobvious way. No pictures of the pad placement now though -- The first card was installed in 2019 and died in 2022. It was a conventional thermal pad placement covering the parts in the VRM section. Because of the conspicuous living death it suffered (wherein the card was still semi-operable but would flake-out as soon as any sort of load was put on it), I assumed I'd missed something in the pad placement so... with the second card I just sludged the area with k5 pro and called it a day; Not much chance of missing anything in that case but... also no guaranty that the act of sludging the whole area didn't conduct heat somewhere harmful (unlikely afaik). Given that these cards seem to be going the way of the dodo in general... I'm finding it less-so odd that both cards died and moreso odd that they both died in the same way.

 

Anyway... new standard-sized 1070 arrived today. I should be able to install it on Tuesday...

[Csupati]

5 hours ago, Naberius said:

It's entirely possible I fouled something up in an unobvious way. No pictures of the pad placement now though -- The first card was installed in 2019 and died in 2022. It was a conventional thermal pad placement covering the parts in the VRM section. Because of the conspicuous living death it suffered (wherein the card was still semi-operable but would flake-out as soon as any sort of load was put on it), I assumed I'd missed something in the pad placement so... with the second card I just sludged the area with k5 pro and called it a day; Not much chance of missing anything in that case but... also no guaranty that the act of sludging the whole area didn't conduct heat somewhere harmful (unlikely afaik). Given that these cards seem to be going the way of the dodo in general... I'm finding it less-so odd that both cards died and moreso odd that they both died in the same way.

 

Anyway... new standard-sized 1070 arrived today. I should be able to install it on Tuesday...

If you gonna get a regular "quadro layout" card then those are critical to be cooled, if you want to cool the capacitors you can do it ,but not required.