XMG Neo 16/17 E24

[MiRaGe]

New Win 11 installation, new CPU power!

 

[MiRaGe]

I don‘t think I can do better…:

 

[nikoskom]

Hi all

 

Thank you for posting your feedback and findings, greatly appreciated!

 

First time I will be buying a gaming laptop after working on a 3770k system for many years

 

Based in Europe, Xmg feels like the best option out there right now

 

I was gonna pull the trigger on the bigger Neo 17, but given that the 16 gets a  "better" upgrade I decided to go with it instead.

 

I will be using an external monitor most of the time, without much movement of the laptop.

 

Looking forward ordering when its available!

 

Good luck to all!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[win32asmguy]

Here is a video review / contrast Eluktronics posted of the MSI Titan 18 with the new Hydroc 16 (same as the Neo 16 E24 I believe):

 

 

[serpro69]

9 hours ago, nikoskom said:

I was gonna pull the trigger on the bigger Neo 17, but given that the 16 gets a  "better" upgrade I decided to go with it instead.

 

We've yet to find out if it's better :) But it certainly feels like an upgrade rather than a refresh.

I'd probably go with 16" as well, if I ever decide to pull the trigger on it.

 

A couple weeks ago I saw pcspecialist had ETA on "their" 16" model at the end of March (now it's actually nowhere to be found on the website), so we probably don't have that much waiting left.

[1610ftw]

On 3/9/2024 at 2:57 PM, win32asmguy said:

Here is a video review / contrast Eluktronics posted of the MSI Titan 18 with the new Hydroc 16 (same as the Neo 16 E24 I believe):

 

 

 

They also have the Prema bios which will help some.

The MSI is performing a lot worse than some of the ones on 3Dmark.com but it is pretty clear that lower memory speeds will always hold it back to a degree - that is the price of having a memory architecture that allows up to 192GB memory.

 

I would like to see MSI or other manufacturers try their hand at liquid cooling as Uniwill / Tongfang with their two memory and two SSD slots and only up to 17" just don't do it for me although their performance obviously is very impressive.

 

OK so I have seen the whole thing now and the MSI results strike me as rather subpar compared to what I have seen elsewhere.

 

Still it is obvious that the water cooling will allow much better performance at moderate noise levels and in a stationary setup this should be the way to go. I just would not want to lug a water cooling solution around on the go so it would have been cool to also find out about the performance without the water cooling.

[MiRaGe]

36K CB r23 broken😊

 

[MiSJAH]

I'm running the PCspecialist variant of this laptop, 13900hx & 4090.

Can anyone explain how to set up raid, I have two x 2tb 990 pro that I want to put in raid 0 for shits and giggles but can't work out how to.

Thanks.

[MiSJAH]

On 3/8/2024 at 12:24 PM, MiRaGe said:

New Win 11 installation, new CPU power!

 

Hi,

 

What RAM are you running and what settings are you using to get it to CL30?

 

Thanks.

[serpro69]

9 hours ago, MiSJAH said:

I'm running the PCspecialist variant of this laptop, 13900hx & 4090.

 

Hey, welcome to the forums!

How do you like it so far? I've read that they're very comparable in assembly quality with xmg, but cost considerably less.

[MiRaGe]

On 3/20/2024 at 8:40 AM, MiSJAH said:

Hi,

 

What RAM are you running and what settings are you using to get it to CL30?

 

Thanks.

Here are my bios memory timings and voltages. 
the RAMs are Corsair Vengeance 2x16 5600 CL48

 

[MiRaGe]

On 3/5/2024 at 5:34 AM, FTW_260 said:

Yes, its a binned A-Die from HyperX Kit: KF564S38IBK2-32

I'll send you the timings a little later when I get to the laptop.

Hi, can you upload your timings for 6800 again please 🙏🏻

[FTW_260]

@MiRaGe sent an invite on Discord 🙃

[MiRaGe]

New results , DDR5-5600@7000 CL32-42-42-65

 

 

[mobile]

On 3/20/2024 at 7:49 PM, serpro69 said:

 

Hey, welcome to the forums!

How do you like it so far? I've read that they're very comparable in assembly quality with xmg, but cost considerably less.

I have used the 13900hx/4090 variant for over a year, and I must say I was impressed. They are very comparable in every aspect, you can even use xmg bios in their machines (it does not void your warranty to do so), they're that similar. Although they are not the same, i.e. they do not have advanced optimus and the memory/ssd options are subpar. To my surprise, they also have quite good after-sales support, as I was able to replace my machine due to a small issue even after a year of purchase, and they made it quite easy to do so.

 

Considering the price difference, pcspecialist is the better option imo.

[serpro69]

Neo16 is announced and available for pre-orders : https://www.xmg.gg/en/xmg-neo-16-e24/

[MiSJAH]

On 3/8/2024 at 7:54 PM, MiRaGe said:

I don‘t think I can do better…:

 

What are your CPU and RAM settings to get this score?

My CPU score is way behind yours - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/38287578

[MiRaGe]

17 hours ago, MiSJAH said:

What are your CPU and RAM settings to get this score?

My CPU score is way behind yours - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/38287578

My RAM is shown in the signature, CPU is undervolted AC-60/DC-0, P-core/E-core/Ring: -65

[miklaus]

On 9/1/2024 at 4:41 PM, MiRaGe said:

My RAM is shown in the signature, CPU is undervolted AC-60/DC-0, P-core/E-core/Ring: -65

Can you details BIOS settings tò let RAM work at 6600mh CL30? Max i ha e Is Kingston 6400mhz CL38, can you shared the exact module of Corsair?

 

Also, id you do this:

XMG Neo 16 E24 14900HX RTX 4090 Mobile

CPU 200W

Respread LM

UV -140/-100/-100/-25

AC/DC Loadline most aggressive

RAM 6400MHz CL36 2x32GB DDR5 Kingston or Corsair 6600MHz CL30

SSD 2x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB

dGPU only

Overboost

Oasis MK2 

GPU +300/+1000 MSI AB

Shunt mod GPU 250W

 

Can you obtain

 

Cinebench R23 36.000

3DMark Time Spy 26.000 General 26.500 Graphics 25.000 CPU

 

??

 

[miklaus]

How can I set rams above 6400? I have set your timings for CL30 voltage 1400 and it works but I have 6400mhz because it show only that frequency in the choices of custom profile, how can I set to 6600 or 7000? Also memory voltage in the first page is 1150 and it works, the one that you changed to 1400 is in the second page of custom timings. Can you explain exactly how to set 6600 and 7000? Which memory voltage and how custom frequency?

[FTW_260]

On 9/28/2024 at 4:22 PM, miklaus said:

Shunt mod GPU 250W

Is there any information somewhere on how to make a shunt mod for the GPU on the Neo 16/17 platform?

[MiRaGe]

On 10/1/2024 at 9:10 AM, miklaus said:

How can I set rams above 6400? I have set your timings for CL30 voltage 1400 and it works but I have 6400mhz because it show only that frequency in the choices of custom profile, how can I set to 6600 or 7000? Also memory voltage in the first page is 1150 and it works, the one that you changed to 1400 is in the second page of custom timings. Can you explain exactly how to set 6600 and 7000? Which memory voltage and how custom frequency?

I’ll send you a screenshot of my bios settings tomorrow👍🏻

[MiRaGe]