Precision 7670 & 7770 pre-release discussion (Alder Lake)

[SvenC]

Has anybody tried a 4TB Sabrent Rocket?

 

If I understand the specs correctly it is double sided (Rocket 4 Plus | Sabrent). Height 3.6mm for 2, 4 and 8TB, only 1TB seems single sided.

 

As I might switch to an XPS 17 / Precision 57x0 in the future - how about double sided m.2s in those models?

I searched the new XPS online manuals, but they only say 2280 and 2230 - nothing about height or thickness.

[Aaron44126]

2 hours ago, SvenC said:

Has anybody tried a 4TB Sabrent Rocket?

 

I have Sabrent Rocket Q 4TB in my work Precision 7560.  It fits and works fine.  I have seen reports that double-sided drives like this do not fit in XPS-style systems.  I am not sure if that is still the case with the latest ones.  (I think Dell is offering a 4TB option in Precision 5770?  Who knows what model or if it is double-sided.)

[wallstreetbets]

Are they not releasing Xeon Alder Lake HX chips? Dont see any mention of it anywhere

[Aaron44126]

7 hours ago, wallstreetbets said:

Are they not releasing Xeon Alder Lake HX chips? Dont see any mention of it anywhere

 

The only thing Xeon brought really brought over Core H series CPUs (in prior generations) was ECC memory support.  Alder Lake general consumer CPUs support ECC memory (...if the chipset/PCH supports it...) so there is likely no need to release Xeons.  On the desktop side, systems with a Core i5/i7/i9 Alder Lake CPU and the W680 chipset will support ECC memory.

 

Not quite clear on the specifics of how this is going to work on the laptop side yet, but I am suspecting that Precision 7X70 will support ECC memory without requiring a Xeon, and there will actually be no Xeon option available.

[Dell-Mano_G]

On 3/31/2022 at 12:51 PM, Ionising_Radiation said:

Any comment on Windows 10 support for Thread Director with the 12th gen Intel CPUs?

Yes it works.

 

On 3/31/2022 at 1:03 PM, Aaron44126 said:

 

@Dell-Mano_G Thank you.  I assume that means that all of these systems will have the choice to ship out with Windows 10 preinstalled?

Yes that is correct.  

 

On 4/1/2022 at 9:26 AM, AL123 said:

xHi @Dell-Mano_G glad you made it over here

A couple of questions if I may

 

1.The Precision 5470 14 inch model has an optional touch screen with active pen support but I do not think it is a true "2 in 1" i.e you can't fold the screen back on itself? If not how far does the hinge allow the screen to rotate/can it go flat on a desk for sketching? 

 

2.I note the A2000 and A3000 are rated at 60W in the precision 5770 spec sheet. Are you able to share the rated wattage for the ampere graphics (A550 A1000, A2000, A3000) in the other precision models, 3570, 3571, 5470, 5570

 

It's an area I've always found Dell doing better than HP Z Books who tend to offer high spec cards but clock them way lower on smaller laptops than the equivalent Dell. 

 

Appreciate there may be boosts above this base wattage on some models when conditions allow so it may not be as straight forward as a single number but just a rough guide for the different models would be great. 

 

 

Thanks for continuing to contribute here 

1. The 5470 screen does not open far enough to lay flat nor does it rotate.  The QHD+ panel on the 5470 support both active pen and touch.  

2. Power rating for GFX in all Precision systems is an estimate.  The systems are able to boost the graphics power as long as there is thermal headroom.  With some systems, there will be little to no reduction from boost as the thermal solutions are designed to allow for this.  (I should come up with a name for this, like beast mode). LOL 🙂 

 

 

On 4/1/2022 at 7:00 PM, wallstreetbets said:

Can the efficiency cores be disabled in the bios? If so that should make it Win10 compatible no?

I'm not aware of there being a setting in the BIOS to turn off the efficiency cores.  I can check.  I'm not sure why someone would want to do that.  The whole benefit of these different kind of cores is to offload commonly used tasks.  You shouldn't have to disable these for Win 10.  

[Aaron44126]

35 minutes ago, Dell-Mano_G said:

Yes it works.

 

I feel like I should ask for clarification on your first post here, regarding support for Intel Thread Director and Windows 10, as this was not the answer that I expected.

 

To date, this is a feature that Microsoft has supported only on Windows 11.  There have been hints that support might be backported to Windows 10 but there has been no public or even rumored/leaked comment from Microsoft on the matter, as far as I know.

 

What we are referring to with Thread Director is Intel's dedicated hardware thread monitoring / scheduling assistant feature.  (Here's a page that describes how it works.)

 

(Windows 10 does have some awareness of "performance" vs. "efficiency" cores and will schedule threads accordingly, but it does not utilize information provided by Thread Director for scheduling.)

 

So the question is, to clarify — does Dell have some way of getting Windows 10 and Thread Director working together?  Or are you aware of Microsoft adding support for Thread Director on Windows 10 in the near future?

 

25 minutes ago, Dell-Mano_G said:

I'm not aware of there being a setting in the BIOS to turn off the efficiency cores.  I can check.  I'm not sure why someone would want to do that.  The whole benefit of these different kind of cores is to offload commonly used tasks.  You shouldn't have to disable these for Win 10.  

 

As for "why someone would want to do this" —

 

There are some compatibility issues with regards to the two different types of cores and certain workloads.  Some games that have DRM protections would fail to run, because P cores and E cores have different CPU IDs and the DRM software would flip out about that.  (I believe that these have all been patched by now.)  The main issue now is that some software which runs CPU-intensive workloads in low-priority threads will have those threads inappropriately scheduled to run on the E cores only, hampering performance.  @AL123 posted a link to a review that has a good discussion on this issue.

 

Disabling the E cores is one way to solve this problem.  (In my opinion, this would be a "last resort" type thing — there are other ways that it can be addressed.)

 

Ideally, problematic software will be updated in short order to address this and then such workarounds will be unnecessary.

[Frosty]

Hello everyone.  Is there any speculation on when we might see a 7770 announcement?  I'm getting eager to replace my 7730.

[Aaron44126]

44 minutes ago, Frosty said:

Hello everyone.  Is there any speculation on when we might see a 7770 announcement?  I'm getting eager to replace my 7730.

Note – Speculative, my “best guess” based generally on past patterns.

Announcement in first half of May.

Available to order in late May or early June.

First batch of systems received by customers in July.

 

Intel announcing Alder Lake HX is the next thing needed to get things moving.  (Not really up to Dell.  They can’t announce until Intel does.)

[Frosty]

Alright.  Imma hit snooze for two months then.  😁

Thanks for the guess.  Guess I have to keep being patient.

[Ionising_Radiation]

5 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

this was not the answer that I expected.

Thanks for verbalising in detail what I was thinking, @Aaron44126. Low-level scheduler support for Intel's new P-E architecture is critical to extract both maximum performance and efficiency from the 12th-gen Intel CPUs.

For many users, Windows 10 is a stable product with a known workflow, which Windows 11 drastically breaks. 

[iieeann]

The new 7770 will not have 240W charging thru USB-C 😔.

The new dock WD22TB4 also rather disappointing, no USB4, still with miserable 1GBE, still 130W power output.

The expectation to eliminate 1 cable when connecting to dock will not happen in this generation.  This is understandable, by the time 240W charging standard is announced last year, Dell might have been at final stage of designing this coming generation.

[Aaron44126]

39 minutes ago, iieeann said:

The new 7770 will not have 240W charging thru USB-C 😔.

 

I noticed that for the docks.  There's not a new dual-connect dock for >200W power delivery to the laptop.  (Maybe there is something yet to be announced with the Precision 7X70 systems.)  But...

 

For Precision 7770 we have...

• CPUs moving up a notch in TDP (45W→55W base TDP — not sure what Alder Lake HX boost power will look like but seems like it'll have to be higher than Tiger Lake H)
• GPUs moving up a notch in TGP (140W→165W boost TGP)
• ...A chassis that looks like it is made to support a three-fan cooling solution, or at the very least a significant increase in the rear fin stack surface area for better cooling.

Honestly, I'll be a bit disappointed if the 7770 still ships with a 240W PSU (at least for high-end configs like Core i9 HX + RTX A5500).

 

We already have stories of the 7760 GPU getting throttled with a dock attached that can (supposedly) deliver full power to the system.  They may have decided that dock users just have to also have a separate power brick plugged in for now.

 

(Still speculative.  Not that much longer until we find out, though...)

[Aaron44126]

On 4/3/2022 at 9:41 AM, SvenC said:

As I might switch to an XPS 17 / Precision 57x0 in the future - how about double sided m.2s in those models?

  

On 4/3/2022 at 11:59 AM, Aaron44126 said:

(I think Dell is offering a 4TB option in Precision 5770?  Who knows what model or if it is double-sided.)

 

Checked this out a little more carefully and I ran into something odd.  I started with the XPS 17, which is available to order now, but Dell is only offering up to 2TB for that system.

 

So, on the Precision 5770 spec sheet, they list a 4TB option but it says "only with discrete graphics configuration".  Why would a dGPU be required?  Precision 5470 and 5570 sheets list a 4TB option without that stipulation.

 

(Still unclear if these are "double-sided" NVMe drives or if they have some manufacturer that is making single-sided 4TB NVMe drives.)

[SvenC]

4 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 I started with the XPS 17, which is available to order now, but Dell is only offering up to 2TB for that system.

 

So, on the Precision 5770 spec sheet, they list a 4TB option but it says "only with discrete graphics configuration".  Why would a dGPU be required?  Precision 5470 and 5570 sheets list a 4TB option without that stipulation.

 

(Still unclear if these are "double-sided" NVMe drives or if they have some manufacturer that is making single-sided 4TB NVMe drives.)

 

This one claims to be 2mm in height up to 4 TB:

X400 M2 SSD Power Pro | EMTEC (emtec-international.com)

Emtec X400 SSD Power Pro 4TB ab € 543,00 (2022) | Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland (German "Abmessungen: 80x22x2mm)

 

Hopefully some forum members show up with a 4TB m.2 in an XPS / Precision 5xxx

[AL123]

23 hours ago, Dell-Mano_G said:

Yes it works.

 

Yes that is correct.  

 

1. The 5470 screen does not open far enough to lay flat nor does it rotate.  The QHD+ panel on the 5470 support both active pen and touch.  

2. Power rating for GFX in all Precision systems is an estimate.  The systems are able to boost the graphics power as long as there is thermal headroom.  With some systems, there will be little to no reduction from boost as the thermal solutions are designed to allow for this.  (I should come up with a name for this, like beast mode). LOL 🙂 

 

 

I'm not aware of there being a setting in the BIOS to turn off the efficiency cores.  I can check.  I'm not sure why someone would want to do that.  The whole benefit of these different kind of cores is to offload commonly used tasks.  You shouldn't have to disable these for Win 10

. Thankyou!

 

RE 1. 5470 Maybe the next generation or two we can get a 2in1 with a touch screen and nvidia graphics! The 5530 2 in 1 was a no for us due to AMD graphic

2. Sure I get that but I guess Id like to have a rough estimate for grpahics power in for instance the 3571, 5470, 5570. Or even as a comparison wouod you expect similar power limits for the Nvidia rtx a1000 offered in each of these. 

 

Any more details you can share on cooling system upgrades would be great also we love the details of all the effort dell R&D got to. I see particularly on the 5470 alot of work went into getting the a1000 into such a small footprint. 

 

3. Re the disabling of E cores this would be good to confirm as unfrotunately for some apps even in Windows 11 there are issues with scheduling tasks incorrectly on e cores. There may be workarounds but for the less technical user it is useful to just be able to disable and forget. I'm old enough to remember when hyperthreading was first a thing and having to disable in the Bios due to performance impact on certain applications

 

Thanks again for all the info you share. 

 

[Aaron44126]

Checking out the Dell parts list again...  Precision 7X70 chassis parts seem to have some real prices now and not placeholder "$99,999.00" prices.

 

Alder Lake HX CPUs are now showing up in the Dell parts database.  It looks like everything on offer is 8P+8E, except for the i5-12600HX which is 4P+8E.  (i7-12650HX, previously leaked as 6P+8E, is MIA.)

Spoiler

 

Only this batch at the end has prices listed...

The i7-12800HX hasn't shown up in online leaks that I have seen, but the rest of these have.  I think that the "V" and "NV" stand for "vPro" and "no vPro"...  The list seems incomplete.

 

Note — Parts prices might not line up with the prices offered as config choices when ordering a system.

 

Also found NVIDIA GPUs.  (16GB means this A4500 is the mobile version and not the desktop version.)

That's a surprisingly small price difference between A4500 and A5500.

 

Only one entry for each of these GPUs...  So either the parts haven't all been entered yet, or 7X60 and 7X70 are sharing GPU cards.  (This might be just the 7X70 GPUs because there is no A2000 listed.)

 

[Edit]

The parts spreadsheet has all of these GPUs listed together.  There are multiple entries for many of the GPUs (presumably 7X60 and 7X70 versions).  There is also a GeForce 3080 Ti lumped in with the RTX A-series GPUs, so maybe Dell will be offering up that option again as well.  (Maybe 3080 for Precision 7670 and 3080Ti for 7770?)

 

Looking at the same codes in the parts database dump, it appears that there are doubled-up GPUs in there...  They just don't have consistent names so I didn't catch them at first.

 

[Edit 2]

Found this pile of memory options.  Hard to know if it is for the Precision 7X70 or not.  It does go up to 128GB ECC (holy cow $$$), so the only thing it could be for I think would an upcoming Precision desktop with W680 chipset?  (Currently available Precision 3X60 desktops do not appear to support ECC memory, and I don't think that they have any DDR5 servers out yet either.)

Spoiler

On one hand, there are some LPDDR5 options mixed in to the same batch (not pictured) so that makes me think these must be laptop memory options.  On the other, we have no hard indication that Alder Lake HX systems will support ECC memory at all.

[AL123]

4 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

Checking out the Dell parts list again...  Precision 7X70 chassis parts seem to have some real prices now and not placeholder "$99,999.00" prices.

 

Alder Lake HX CPUs are now showing up in the Dell parts database.  It looks like everything on offer is 8P+8E, except for the i5-12600HX which is 4P+8E.  (i7-12650HX, previously leaked as 6P+8E, is MIA.)

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Only this batch at the end has prices listed...

The i7-12800HX hasn't shown up in online leaks that I have seen, but the rest of these have.  I think that the "V" and "NV" stand for "vPro" and "no vPro"...  The list seems incomplete.

 

Note — Parts prices might not line up with the prices offered as config choices when ordering a system.

 

Also found NVIDIA GPUs.  (16GB means this A4500 is the mobile version and not the desktop version.)

That's a surprisingly small price difference between A4500 and A5500.

 

Only one entry for each of these GPUs...  So either the parts haven't all been entered yet, or 7X60 and 7X70 are sharing GPU cards.  (This might be just the 7X70 GPUs because there is no A2000 listed.)

 

[Edit]

The parts spreadsheet has all of these GPUs listed together.  There are multiple entries for many of the GPUs (presumably 7X60 and 7X70 versions).  There is also a GeForce 3080 Ti lumped in with the RTX A-series GPUs, so maybe Dell will be offering up that option again as well.  (Maybe 3080 for Precision 7670 and 3080Ti for 7770?)

 

Looking at the same codes in the parts database dump, it appears that there are doubled-up GPUs in there...  They just don't have consistent names so I didn't catch them at first.

 

[Edit 2]

Found this pile of memory options.  Hard to know if it is for the Precision 7X70 or not.  It does go up to 128GB ECC (holy cow $$$), so the only thing it could be for I think would an upcoming Precision desktop with W680 chipset?  (Currently available Precision 3X60 desktops do not appear to support ECC memory, and I don't think that they have any DDR5 servers out yet either.)

  Reveal hidden contents

On one hand, there are some LPDDR5 options mixed in to the same batch (not pictured) so that makes me think these must be laptop memory options.  On the other, we have no hard indication that Alder Lake HX systems will support ECC memory at all.

Nice find 

 

I'd certainly be pleasantly surprised if the pricing differentials for some of those cards hold true. 

 

As for ECC Ram support I can tell you for the Desktop Precisions it is coming, I believe for everything except the i3. It just wasn't ready at launch for  these systems. 

 

 

[Aaron44126]

4 minutes ago, AL123 said:

As for ECC Ram support I can tell you for the Desktop Precisions it is coming, I believe for everything except the i3. It just wasn't ready at launch for  these systems.

 

For desktop systems, ECC support with Alder Lake requires the W680 chipset from Intel.  I saw this article earlier today, it looks like this chipset is just now starting to roll out.  I'm sure it'll show up in new Precision desktop models soon.

 

(Highly doubt that the mobile RTX GPUs will be that close together in price when we see the actual order configuration pricing.  They would never sell any A4500's...)

[AL123]

2 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

For desktop systems, ECC support with Alder Lake requires the W680 chipset from Intel.  I saw this article earlier today, it looks like this chipset is just now starting to roll out.  I'm sure it'll show up in new Precision desktop models soon.

 

(Highly doubt that the mobile RTX GPUs will be that close together in price when we see the actual order configuration pricing.  They would never sell any A4500's...)

 

Yeh the motherboards used in the systems are fine just the ram didn't get qualified in time for launch, Dell like to properly test things and make sure they have decent supply of before releasing a product/option which is an approach I prefer! 

 

It would also be interesting to hear @Dell-Mano_G thoughts on the performance difference between the rtx a4500 and rtxa5500  but I suppose that might have to wait until the next gen precision 7000 series laptops are released.

 

I have a precision 7760 with the A4000 and was pleased with how close the laptop was vs a desktop A4000 I compared it against, usually in the 10-30% deficit range in performance which is a compromise I'm happy with!

 

It is often boosting above 110W even when doing GPU based rendering, now that they have the higher ram to match up against the desktop cards it's far less of a compromise. Most of our team internally get A3000 and A4000 as I can't justify the jump in price to the A5000 for the extra VRAM for most of the team. 

[yslalan]

Just registered a new account just for sharing a poster from Dell China

 

Good news guys!

Scroll down to check info about precision. They mentioned there will be 2 "body" for preicison 7670, one is for mobile and one for extreme performance.

I saw the previous discussion about discrete GPU, yea, there will be intel Arc graphics provided in 7770, and also the PSU will be smaller in this generation, I assume this will be GaN like what Dell provided to Alienware X15/17 product lines.

The dell rep said precision 3570/3571 5470/5570/5770 can be ordered on 4/19

Precision 7670/7770 can be ordered on 5/10 eventually.

If you are interested in what the poster said, use OCR and translate.

 

[Aaron44126]

4 hours ago, yslalan said:

Just registered a new account just for sharing a poster from Dell China

 

Very interesting, thank you...

 

I grabbed just the bit from the Precision systems (a bit easier to see here on the forum if it's not so vertical).

 

OCR:

• 移劫端3 系/5 系新增14 寸工作站 3470/5470
• 7670 提供戏机身版本（経便版／高性能版）
• CPU 升级！ 全新Intel 12 代Alder Lake CPU ，性能提升25% , H 系高性能，部 分提供P28 版本
• 內存升级！ LPDDR5 內存，性能提升 15%
• GPU 升级！新一代高性能RTX 造璜，提供Intel 夸此狓晁(5470/7770)
• 人性化没计，防盜亻考感器( MWS 5/7)
• 更小的适配器(MWS 7)
• 硬件低盔光
• Al 近汤沢別和快速登入2.0
• Optimizer 軟件优化、散熱优化
• 包裝100％使用可回收材料
• MWS3 系零部件，风扇l 屯池框架采 用可回收材料
• 桌面端3 系全新没计， 3660 性能強劭 (27 升）
• 最高125W 高性能12 代灶理器， 68% 性能提升
• 最高128G 支持DDR5 4400Mhz 內存，50％ 性能提升
• 可造RTXA6000 高性熊GPU
• 提供液冷方案，最高降低26％的温度 和33％的信噪比(3660VS3650)

Google Translate:

• Added 14-inch workstation 3470/5470 for 3-series/5-series
• 7670 is available in a game body version (Scene version / High performance version)
• CPU upgrade! The new Intel 12th generation Alder Lake CPU, the performance is improved by 25%, H series high performance, some provide P28 version
• Memory upgrade! LPDDR5 memory, 15% better performance
• GPU upgrade! A new generation of high-performance RTX design, providing Intel's praised Xingchao (5470/7770)
• Humanized design, anti-theft sensor (MWS 5/7)
• Smaller adapter (MWS 7)
• Hardware low helmet light
• Al Kinyuzabetsu and Quick Login 2.0
• Optimizer software optimization, thermal optimization
• Packaging is 100% recyclable
• MWS3 series parts, fan and pool frame are made of recyclable materials
• Brand new for desktop 3 series, 3660 powerful performance (27L)
• Up to 125W high performance 12th generation cooker with 68% performance boost
• Up to 128G supports DDR5 4400Mhz memory, 50% performance improvement
• Can build RTXA6000 high performance bear GPU
• Offers a liquid cooling solution that reduces temperature by up to 26% and SNR by 33% (3660VS3650)

Analysis:

• Despite being mostly focused on the Precision MWS systems, they seem to have some Precision desktop bullet points in here.
• They did report Precision 3470 which has not been widely reported and has not yet been announced by Dell.  (Precision 3470 has been observed in the parts list and in registration filings.)
• It looks like they are claiming Intel Arc graphics only for 5470 and 7770.  We already knew 5470 was getting it, and a high-end Arc GPU has appeared in the parts list for the 7X70 (just one entry and not two), so this seems to line up.
• The release dates are not in the infographic, but 4/19 for 3000 and 5000 seems reasonable.  5/10 for 7000 is a bit earlier than I thought, but not entirely unrealistic.  They are clearly working on these systems, so maybe they will be available almost immediately after Intel's announcement of the HX line?  (Still no real hint on exactly that will happen, AFAIK.  I had been assuming early May, but it could come yet this month.)  In the 10+ years that I've been following them, Dell has never had the high-end Precision MWS systems available immediately after a CPU launch, but there are a lot of things that are unusual about the Alder Lake rollout.  ...Anyway, I'll believe it more if the 4/19 date is accurate, we'll find out next week.

[Aaron44126]

Some articles dropped overnight.

([Edit] Fake news, disregard.  Keeping for context only.)

 

Looks like there is an "Intel W12985" CPU in the mix.  This is a workstation-class Alder Lake CPU but without the "Xeon" branding?  (This CPU does not presently show up in the Dell parts list, which was refreshed yesterday.)

 

https://www.ithome.com/0/613/048.htm

 

Google Translate:

 

IT House reported on April 14 that Intel's new generation of mobile processors for workstations have been exposed, and they are equipped in Dell's new Precision 7770 mobile workstation.

 

According to the "Beast Ancestor", this mobile workstation is equipped with Intel's new W12985 processor, 8 large cores + 8 small cores, 30MB L3 cache, and a maximum of 5GHz.

 

IT House has learned that there is currently no 16-core model for the 12th-generation Core mobile processor, and the i9-12900HK is 14-core and 20-thread. The W12985 is already close to the specs of the i9-12900 desktop processor.

 

Prior to this, it was reported that the processor model supported by the Intel W680 platform was no longer the "Xeon-W" series, or named Core-W.

 

In addition, Dell's new Precision 7770 mobile workstation can be equipped with up to 256GB of DDR5 memory, equipped with an RTX A6000 professional graphics card, four hard drive bays, and a 17.3-inch 4K screen.

 

(The bits with 256GB of memory and a A6000 GPU seem suspect to me...  Are they mixing it up with the desktop workstations?  In that case, maybe W12985 is actually a desktop CPU?  Brief searches for info on this CPU model seem to just point me to very new articles that refer back to this one.)

 

A number of other outlets refer back to this article, like:

https://wccftech.com/dell-readies-insane-precision-7770-workstation-laptop-with-intel-w12985-16-core-cpu-at-5-ghz-nvidia-rtx-a6000-16-gb-graphics-256-gb-of-ddr5-memory/

[__starrify__]

52 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

(The bits with 256GB of memory and a A6000 GPU seem suspect to me...  Are they mixing it up with the desktop workstations?)

 

Thanks for the info! Also again, thank you and all other people who've been really helpful here.

I feel very much the same, as I was surely not expecting 256GB of memory, nor any existing laptop memory module that comes in 64GB in capacity.

 

I managed to locate the original post, which appeared in the news articles as a screenshot.

That is from an SNS called "酷安", or "coolapk", and here I've got the direct link to that post: https://www.coolapk.com/feed/35058600?shareKey=ZWEzZTc0ZWM5MWQ0NjI1OTUzYTk~

 

The stupid thing, as with so many Chinese websites / services, is that they tend to favor a lot mobile applications over websites. Some may not provide a website at all, and some others, like this coolapk SNS here, shows comments only to users that use their mobile phone application.

 

I therefore had to install their mobile app. Out of the existing comments, I found one conversation somehow useful to us, whose screenshot has been attached here:

 

Quick translation of the comment thread:

Quote

yslalan: That's all bullshit.

yslalan: The only thing accurate may be the operating system.

OP: I merely forwarded the info[1]. We need to wait until a later time to know whether that's true.

yslalan: Dell has got spreadsheet of their parts[2]. You may look through the info if you're interested.

 

Translator's comment:

[1]: On Chinese SNS nowadays that roughly means "I don't take responsibility for that".

[2]: I _guess_ that may be the links shared by Aaron44126 earlier.

 

Apart from that, the OP does not have any other recent post on that topic.

 

Edited: I went checking as well the ithome.com news article, where several people posted comments saying that the leak seems highly suspicious. Interestingly, this "yslalan" person is also among the commenting users there.

[Aaron44126]

1 hour ago, __starrify__ said:

I managed to locate the original post, which appeared in the news articles as a screenshot.

That is from an SNS called "酷安", or "coolapk", and here I've got the direct link to that post: https://www.coolapk.com/feed/35058600?shareKey=ZWEzZTc0ZWM5MWQ0NjI1OTUzYTk~

...

Interestingly, this "yslalan" person is also among the commenting users there.

 

Good sleuthing, thanks for sharing.  It's good context.  @yslalan posted here as well, providing the poster a few posts up.  (Looks like I'm not the only one eager for 7770 info 😀.)  I believe he has been keeping an eye on this thread so it makes sense that he would have seen the parts list links that I posted.  (Not that they're that hard to find on your own...)

 

[Edit] I didn't pay much attention to that screen shot in the article but I just looked and I realized that the storage drives are bogus as well; they are showing 3× Intel P5318M 15.36TB SSDs, which seems impossible for a laptop.

 

[Edit 2] It also says 1000 nits display?  Yeesh 😕

[Aaron44126]

https://twitter.com/emerald_x86/status/1508116954137174016?s=21&t=usGWt7rq1RSkAh4lnQu2iw

 

 

 

Computex starts May 24.

 

Not sure if this is real, but, notes:

• 64GB max ECC memory?
• Not sure what this business is with CAMM interposers for the memory.  Is CAMM a new replacement for SODIMM?  I can’t find any information about this; maybe it is Dell proprietary like DGFF?
• PCIe4 for all NVMe slots.
• Looks like you might need a battery upgrade to fit 4 NVMe drives in the 7770.
• (Not that worried about it saying A5000 instead of A5500, probably a misprint of sorts, there is ample evidence that A5500 is coming to both systems.  Thought that only one of them was getting Intel Arc graphics, though…)