Eluktronics Hydroc G2 / Uniwill IDY 2025

[win32asmguy]

I preordered one of these back in late February and it was delivered last week. Specs / options:

 

• Intel Arrow Lake 275HX with CPU tuning
• RTX 5090 Mobile 175W / 5080 Mobile
• 2x16GB Kingston Fury 6400 CL38 XMP kit / CSODIMM also supported with memory tuning
• 1x Gen5 M.2 + 1x Gen4 M.2 SSD
• 16 inch miniLED 300hz QHD+ panel with local dimming switch / 300hz IPS

 

Initial impressions:

 

This model has very good build quality. It is much more solid feeling than the Clevo X580 and even some mobile workstations. The fan noise does not have any high pitched whine. It has fully customizable RGB lighting including the ability to override cold boot settings. The shipping bios has limited tuning but Premamod will be available when ready. Local dimming on the miniLED makes me like this type of panel. Unfortunately it is not the boot default but atleast it can be controlled via software.

 

I have tried many different memory kits so far in it. The best performing has been the Kingston Fury 2x16GB 6400 CL38 XMP kit however it has to use a custom profile with 1.25v due to shipping bios limitations. That results in ~98ns latency in Gear 2.

 

I will try to post a full review soon.

[faster-ai]

Hi again @win32asmguy. I’m also considering whether to go for the Uniwill/Tongfang IDY or go for the Clevo X580. Is the IDY's BIOS confirmed to not use Intel BootGuard? In other words, can the BIOS be freely modified without being blocked by fused BootGuard protections? The Clevo is attractive because there’s a community-maintained BIOS repository and Service Manual (some models even including motherboard schematics), which is incredibly valuable for DIY, modding, and repairs （https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/  username and password are both repo). But the repo currently lacks X580's Service Manual, so I’m unsure if this one will ever be released.

Meanwhile, for the Uniwill IDY, I’m seeing fewer signs of public BIOS or Service Manual availability. Do you know if Uniwill/Tongfang provides a public BIOS or if anyone has shared its Service Manual and motherboard schematics?

The IDY also boasts water cooling, which is appealing. But the X580 offers four drive bays and dual LAN ports—another strong point. Do you have a perference on which platform?

[win32asmguy]

On 6/21/2025 at 2:05 AM, faster-ai said:

Hi again @win32asmguy. I’m also considering whether to go for the Uniwill/Tongfang IDY or go for the Clevo X580. Is the IDY's BIOS confirmed to not use Intel BootGuard? In other words, can the BIOS be freely modified without being blocked by fused BootGuard protections? The Clevo is attractive because there’s a community-maintained BIOS repository and Service Manual (some models even including motherboard schematics), which is incredibly valuable for DIY, modding, and repairs （https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/  username and password are both repo). But the repo currently lacks X580's Service Manual, so I’m unsure if this one will ever be released.

Meanwhile, for the Uniwill IDY, I’m seeing fewer signs of public BIOS or Service Manual availability. Do you know if Uniwill/Tongfang provides a public BIOS or if anyone has shared its Service Manual and motherboard schematics?

The IDY also boasts water cooling, which is appealing. But the X580 offers four drive bays and dual LAN ports—another strong point. Do you have a perference on which platform?

 

Hello! As far as bootguard goes I would need to test the Hydroc G2 and its state could vary from vendor to vendor. Even so the Hydroc G2 will get a Premamod bios so its going to be tuneable regardless. Prema may be able to make the mod then hand it up the chain to be signed for distribution to Eluk customers.

 

The X580 service manual should eventually show up there, or if you purchase from System76 they will provide it as well if requested.

 

I chose the Hydroc G2 over the X580 because the bios was locked on the X580, and the cost of the System76 X580 would have been over $5000. The Hydroc also has a TB4 port wired to the iGPU so it can drive an external display without the Nvidia GPU active which is a bit plus to me. The Clevo X560 is also wired that way, but it only goes up to a 5070ti mobile through Sager / System76 so not as appealing to me. This platform also needs to have memory tuned so its on par with competitors which would be much harder to do with the Clevo X560 or X580.

[MaxxD]

Hi,

 

I bought a Medion Erazer Beast 16 X1 Ultimate laptop yesterday. I'm still getting to know it, but my first impression is good.

The extra refrigerator is not here yet, but it is on its way. Hopefully I will have it within 1-2 weeks.

 

Power Adapter 420W

 

 

BIOS 🙂

 

[MaxxD]

There is Custom Mode.
What settings do you recommend there?

 

 

GPU-Z

During the bench test, this max GPU value is the default.

 

[faster-ai]

Another topic is, I heard that the Uniwill/Tongfang IDY can do shunt mod to get higher GPU performance. Does anyone know which resistor need to mod and how? Is it this one? 

[MaxxD]

 

Full (XMG) Control Center "Gallery" (<---LINK)

 

My experience so far has been good and I am satisfied. I would recommend this machine to anyone. It is properly optimized in both software and hardware.

 

The machine is a Medion Erazer, but it matches the XMG NEO machine perfectly, so I installed the XMG BIOS on it and used the XMG Control Center, and I don't regret it.

[MaxxD]

Time Spy Extreme 12.487 (<---LINK)

[MaxxD]

Power! 🤭💪 😄 

 

 

😛

 

[PHVM_BR]

On 10/22/2025 at 5:10 AM, MaxxD said:

 

Full (XMG) Control Center "Gallery" (<---LINK)

 

My experience so far has been good and I am satisfied. I would recommend this machine to anyone. It is properly optimized in both software and hardware.

 

The machine is a Medion Erazer, but it matches the XMG NEO machine perfectly, so I installed the XMG BIOS on it and used the XMG Control Center, and I don't regret it.

I have an Avell (Brazilian company) Storm 580 with an Ultra 9 275HX and an RTX 5080, which is exactly the same as the Medion Erazer Beast 16 with the American Megatrends BIOS.

 

Did the BIOS update for the XMG Neo 16 go smoothly?

 

Could you tell me about your experience?

 

Furthermore, I can't access the XMG driver portal...

[MaxxD]

13 hours ago, PHVM_BR said:

I have an Avell (Brazilian company) Storm 580 with an Ultra 9 275HX and an RTX 5080, which is exactly the same as the Medion Erazer Beast 16 with the American Megatrends BIOS.

 

Did the BIOS update for the XMG Neo 16 go smoothly?

 

Could you tell me about your experience?

 

Furthermore, I can't access the XMG driver portal...

 

Hi,

 

It's completely good and usable.
BIOS update is not necessarily necessary, because everything is fine with the factory BIOS. I installed XMG Control Center and XMG BIOS. Another important aspect, if there is an Update, XMG is among the first. Although they have fixed all the "bugs". The only shortcoming is the lack of cover logo lighting, because on the cover of XMG machines only the XMG writing (logo) is visible and nothing lights up there. Therefore, the XMG BIOS does not include this function, but this does not affect its proper functioning.

 

XMG Link: Download

and

How can I update the EC/BIOS firmware of my laptop?

[PHVM_BR]

4 hours ago, MaxxD said:

 

Hi,

 

It's completely good and usable.
BIOS update is not necessarily necessary, because everything is fine with the factory BIOS. I installed XMG Control Center and XMG BIOS. Another important aspect, if there is an Update, XMG is among the first. Although they have fixed all the "bugs". The only shortcoming is the lack of cover logo lighting, because on the cover of XMG machines only the XMG writing (logo) is visible and nothing lights up there. Therefore, the XMG BIOS does not include this function, but this does not affect its proper functioning.

 

XMG Link: Download

and

How can I update the EC/BIOS firmware of my laptop?

I'm thinking of switching to the XMG BIOS because it has more adjustment options and because of the updates.

 

It really works well, but I couldn't overclock the processor even after disabling Overclocking Lock in the advanced menu of the American Megatrends BIOS.

 

Even increasing the Ratios in ThrottleStop or XTU, the CPU doesn't exceed the standard clock, even without temperature and power limitations...

 

Undervolting, however, works perfectly.

 

Thank you very much!

[MaxxD]

1 hour ago, PHVM_BR said:

I'm thinking of switching to the XMG BIOS because it has more adjustment options and because of the updates.

 

It really works well, but I couldn't overclock the processor even after disabling Overclocking Lock in the advanced menu of the American Megatrends BIOS.

 

Even increasing the Ratios in ThrottleStop or XTU, the CPU doesn't exceed the standard clock, even without temperature and power limitations...

 

Undervolting, however, works perfectly.

 

Thank you very much!

 

You don't even need to overclock the processor!
It's completely well optimized and always adapts to the profile settings.
It always runs at max.

 

 

 

It's never throttling, because it always cuts back if it were. The processor always runs as it should.

I still need to set PL1, PL2, PL4 to what the max. value is that is still worth it. 410W is the max. you can set it to, but that is completely unnecessary!

 

 

 

In your opinion, what is the best PL1, PL2, PL4 value to use, and what are the maximum values that are still worth setting? 😄 

[PHVM_BR]

2 hours ago, MaxxD said:

 

You don't even need to overclock the processor!
It's completely well optimized and always adapts to the profile settings.
It always runs at max.

 

 

 

It's never throttling, because it always cuts back if it were. The processor always runs as it should.

I still need to set PL1, PL2, PL4 to what the max. value is that is still worth it. 410W is the max. you can set it to, but that is completely unnecessary!

 

 

 

In your opinion, what is the best PL1, PL2, PL4 value to use, and what are the maximum values that are still worth setting? 😄 

Yes, yes, I can get similar numbers, but I want more...

 

There is still thermal headroom, especially when using a water cooling solution or a cooling pad!

 

My Control Panel is exactly the same! 

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core Ultra 9 Processor 275HX,Avell STORM 580

 

Take a look at the single core from one of the screenshots.

 

[MaxxD]

17 hours ago, PHVM_BR said:

Yes, yes, I can get similar numbers, but I want more...

 

There is still thermal headroom, especially when using a water cooling solution or a cooling pad!

 

My Control Panel is exactly the same! 

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core Ultra 9 Processor 275HX,Avell STORM 580

 

Take a look at the single core from one of the screenshots.

 

 

Nice!

Would you mind sharing the settings you used (CPU OC) with me? 😮 🙂 

I would be happy to try it out and share the results.

[PHVM_BR]

3 hours ago, MaxxD said:

 

Nice!

Would you mind sharing the settings you used (CPU OC) with me? 😮 🙂 

I would be happy to try it out and share the results.

There's no OC on the CPU, only undervolting.

 

I tried increasing the ratios using ThrottleStop, but although I can change it in the FIVR window, it doesn't seem to be applied.

 

Both the P-cores and E-cores remain at their standard clock limit of 5.2GHz and 4.6GHz under full load.

 

My undervolt is -60mV for the CPU Core and CPU P Cache and -30mV for the iGPU, with IccMax at maximum on all.

 

I also unchecked the TVB option in FIVR so that the CPU doesn't reduce its clock speed due to the target temperature (I believe that with TVB enabled, the P-cores decrease by 100MHz starting at 70°C and another 100MHz when the temperature reaches 95°C).

[MaxxD]

1 hour ago, PHVM_BR said:

There's no OC on the CPU, only undervolting.

 

I tried increasing the ratios using ThrottleStop, but although I can change it in the FIVR window, it doesn't seem to be applied.

 

Both the P-cores and E-cores remain at their standard clock limit of 5.2GHz and 4.6GHz under full load.

 

My undervolt is -60mV for the CPU Core and CPU P Cache and -30mV for the iGPU, with IccMax at maximum on all.

 

I also unchecked the TVB option in FIVR so that the CPU doesn't reduce its clock speed due to the target temperature (I believe that with TVB enabled, the P-cores decrease by 100MHz starting at 70°C and another 100MHz when the temperature reaches 95°C).

 

Thanks!

Are you using the Performance section of Control Center in addition to TS?

I haven't used the TS program in a long time and I see that a lot of changes have happened to it in the past few years. 😄 

[PHVM_BR]

36 minutes ago, MaxxD said:

 

Thanks!

Are you using the Performance section of Control Center in addition to TS?

I haven't used the TS program in a long time and I see that a lot of changes have happened to it in the past few years. 😄 

Yes, I leave it on the custom profile with maximum performance and boost fans for benchmarks.

[MaxxD]

8 minutes ago, PHVM_BR said:

Yes, I leave it on the custom profile with maximum performance and boost fans for benchmarks.

 

In principle, what you said has been given, but there is not much change, but the maximum temperature is better, but the consumption seems to increase. 😁

 

[PHVM_BR]

1 hour ago, MaxxD said:

 

In principle, what you said has been given, but there is not much change, but the maximum temperature is better, but the consumption seems to increase. 😁

 

In the Control Center's Custom Performance tab, check the "Advanced CPU Settings" box (or similar) to unlock CPU settings in the BIOS.

 

Close ThrottleStop and delete the settings file.

It's an automatically created .ini file in the same folder as the icon.

 

Disable Core Isolation in Windows.

 

Restart the system and access the BIOS.

 

There will be an "Advanced CPU" tab.

Click on it.

 

There, you can disable virtualization features, Overclocking Lock, and Undervolting Protection.

 

Restart the system and you'll be ready to adjust the throttlestop!

[MaxxD]

14 hours ago, PHVM_BR said:

In the Control Center's Custom Performance tab, check the "Advanced CPU Settings" box (or similar) to unlock CPU settings in the BIOS.

 

Close ThrottleStop and delete the settings file.

It's an automatically created .ini file in the same folder as the icon.

 

Disable Core Isolation in Windows.

 

Restart the system and access the BIOS.

 

There will be an "Advanced CPU" tab.

Click on it.

 

There, you can disable virtualization features, Overclocking Lock, and Undervolting Protection.

 

Restart the system and you'll be ready to adjust the throttlestop!

 

Core Isolation was disabled and the Control Center "CPU Advanced Performance Menu" was enabled. I restarted the computer and entered the BIOS, then looked at the settings menu that was already visible. A lot of things were adjustable. Can you help me with that? Perf Menu BIOS

My computer wouldn't start after that. It wasn't easy to get the system back.

I didn't set anything, only Core Isolation was turned off....

Now the machine is good again and the system has started.

[PHVM_BR]

2 hours ago, MaxxD said:

 

Core Isolation was disabled and the Control Center "CPU Advanced Performance Menu" was enabled. I restarted the computer and entered the BIOS, then looked at the settings menu that was already visible. A lot of things were adjustable. Can you help me with that? Perf Menu BIOS

My computer wouldn't start after that. It wasn't easy to get the system back.

I didn't set anything, only Core Isolation was turned off....

Now the machine is good again and the system has started.

You probably changed parameters in the advanced BIOS that you shouldn't have, or changed them in the wrong way.

 

From what I saw, I believe you changed the ICC Max to 0 (auto) while in my BIOS this value is at the maximum (2047).

It seems you also changed P-core Power Density Throttle and Turbo Thermal Protection...

 

According to the screenshots, that's what you did in addition to what I suggested.

 

I can't tell if you changed anything else...

 

I had only written to disable Undervolting Protection, Virtualization features, and Overclocking Lock.

 

I suggest you don't change anything you don't understand.

 

I believe your best option is to reset the BIOS to the original settings.

 

Turn off the laptop, unplug the charger cable for a few seconds and plug it back in.

Then press and hold Ctrl + Alt + F11 and then press the power button.

Keep them all pressed for a few seconds and release them.

The BIOS will enter a factory reset process.

 

When the BIOS reverts to factory defaults, you'll be able to make the changes you want, knowing exactly what you're altering...

 

On 10/22/2025 at 5:10 AM, MaxxD said:

The machine is a Medion Erazer, but it matches the XMG NEO machine perfectly, so I installed the XMG BIOS on it and used the XMG Control Center, and I don't regret it.

It doesn't appear that the BIOS for the XMG Neo 16 E25 is installed.

I believe the layout is completely different.

[MaxxD]

21 minutes ago, PHVM_BR said:

You probably changed parameters in the advanced BIOS that you shouldn't have, or changed them in the wrong way.

 

From what I saw, I believe you changed the ICC Max to 0 (auto) while in my BIOS this value is at the maximum (2047).

It seems you also changed P-core Power Density Throttle and Turbo Thermal Protection...

 

According to the screenshots, that's what you did in addition to what I suggested.

 

I can't tell if you changed anything else...

 

I had only written to disable Undervolting Protection, Virtualization features, and Overclocking Lock.

 

I suggest you don't change anything you don't understand.

 

I believe your best option is to reset the BIOS to the original settings.

 

Turn off the laptop, unplug the charger cable for a few seconds and plug it back in.

Then press and hold Ctrl + Alt + F11 and then press the power button.

Keep them all pressed for a few seconds and release them.

The BIOS will enter a factory reset process.

 

When the BIOS reverts to factory defaults, you'll be able to make the changes you want, knowing exactly what you're altering...

 

It doesn't appear that the BIOS for the XMG Neo 16 E25 is installed.

I believe the layout is completely different.

 

There are quite a few settings, I don't even understand half of them...yes.
I set what you suggested and as you wrote.

 

The BIOS is definitely XMG BIOS, because I went through the process. The LED on the Medion cover hasn't lit up since then either. 🙂 

I downloaded and updated it, so it's definitely there.

 

Medion has not released a new BIOS, only the one that comes with the machine at the factory.

[PHVM_BR]

12 minutes ago, MaxxD said:

 

There are quite a few settings, I don't even understand half of them...yes.
I set what you suggested and as you wrote.

 

The BIOS is definitely XMG BIOS, because I went through the process. The LED on the Medion cover hasn't lit up since then either. 🙂 

I downloaded and updated it, so it's definitely there.

 

Medion has not released a new BIOS, only the one that comes with the machine at the factory.

You're right, the different layout I saw was from the BIOS of the Neo 16 E23/E24.

 

Your BIOS and options seem to be exactly the same as on my laptop. Including the exact same version 2.22.0059.

[MaxxD]

XMG BIOS Version: N.1.18A14

EC Version: 1.26.00

That's right. The factory one wasn't like this... 🙂