PHVM_BR Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Memory: 5600MT/s CL46 => 6400MT/s CL36 (2x32gb DUAL RANK) NGU: 2,6GHz => 3,0GHz D2D: 2,1GHz => 3,1GHz Ring: 3,8GHz => 4,0GHz P-cores: 5,2GHz@-60mV or 5,1GHz@-65mV E-cores: 4,6GHz@-75mV or 4,7@-60mV or 4,8GHz@-50mV ICCMax: Unlimited 10-minute test: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61810196 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/34303826
ZoOLf Posted yesterday at 01:42 PM Posted yesterday at 01:42 PM On 2/15/2026 at 6:48 PM, PHVM_BR said: Memory: 5600MT/s CL46 => 6400MT/s CL36 (2x32gb DUAL RANK) NGU: 2,6GHz => 3,0GHz D2D: 2,1GHz => 3,1GHz Ring: 3,8GHz => 4,0GHz P-cores: 5,2GHz@-60mV or 5,1GHz@-65mV E-cores: 4,6GHz@-75mV or 4,7@-60mV or 4,8GHz@-50mV ICCMax: Unlimited 10-minute test: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61810196 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/34303826 Hi, Those are just outstanding scores, as i had 5090, i can tell your results are more close to 5090 than 5080 nice job. GPU OC? So as i read you have the storm 580, and you did flash the xmg neo 16 e25 bios. Do you have the FN key mapping mismatch? As i have no brand x6ar558y, same as yours im willing get your scores. Do i need to flash xmg bios? And what are your setting for CPU/GPU and ram timing? (If possible a guide)
PHVM_BR Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, ZoOLf said: Hi, Those are just outstanding scores, as i had 5090, i can tell your results are more close to 5090 than 5080 nice job. GPU OC? So as i read you have the storm 580, and you did flash the xmg neo 16 e25 bios. Do you have the FN key mapping mismatch? As i have no brand x6ar558y, same as yours im willing get your scores. Do i need to flash xmg bios? And what are your setting for CPU/GPU and ram timing? (If possible a guide) Overclocked GPU! How much depends on the application... for example, in Time Spy I get +450MHz, while in Fire Strike the limit is +430MHz... For games I keep it at +400MHz to have a safe margin and not have to worry. VRAM always supports +3000MHz. I want to update to the XMG BIOS but I haven't done it yet. To get good results, just unlock the advanced BIOS menu through the Control Center and unlock the CPU undervolt and adjust the memory, in addition to the GPU overclock. I use XTU for CPU undervolt because with it you can adjust the P-cores and E-cores separately. On my CPU, -60mV on the P-cores is stable, limiting it to 5.2GHz, while on the E-cores at 4.6GHz I use -75mV, also completely stable. I have 2x32GB of SODIMM memory, therefore the modules are dual rank, more limited for adjustment. I achieved a stable 6400MT/s CL36-39-39-54 at 1.3V. I tried 6800MT/s at 1.35V but it didn't POST. I stopped there... With single-rank memory, 7200 or 7600MT/s at 1.35V should be easily achievable.
ZoOLf Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, PHVM_BR said: Overclocked GPU! How much depends on the application... for example, in Time Spy I get +450MHz, while in Fire Strike the limit is +430MHz... For games I keep it at +400MHz to have a safe margin and not have to worry. VRAM always supports +3000MHz. I want to update to the XMG BIOS but I haven't done it yet. To get good results, just unlock the advanced BIOS menu through the Control Center and unlock the CPU undervolt and adjust the memory, in addition to the GPU overclock. I use XTU for CPU undervolt because with it you can adjust the P-cores and E-cores separately. On my CPU, -60mV on the P-cores is stable, limiting it to 5.2GHz, while on the E-cores at 4.6GHz I use -75mV, also completely stable. I have 2x32GB of SODIMM memory, therefore the modules are dual rank, more limited for adjustment. I achieved a stable 6400MT/s CL36-39-39-54 at 1.3V. I tried 6800MT/s at 1.35V but it didn't POST. I stopped there... With single-rank memory, 7200 or 7600MT/s at 1.35V should be easily achievable. Ahh i see, good then, i dont want to flash the xmg bios and finish with missmatch FN key. I will try XTU, for cpu OC. For GPU you use Msi afterburner i guess? For the ram i have kingston fury impact 2x16 5600mhz single rank. I never messed with ram timing, so i just have to change only those timing and voltage in bios? If it dont post i need to clear cmos isnt?
MiSJAH Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Got my Neo 16 (E25) today. It's stuck in a: Quote You're 100% there. Please keep your computer on. It's been like that for 35 minutes. Any suggestions?
ZoOLf Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MiSJAH said: Got my Neo 16 (E25) today. It's stuck in a: It's been like that for 35 minutes. Any suggestions? What is this? First time boot? Should not take all that time, did you connected to internet for windows uppdates?
MiSJAH Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 9 minutes ago, ZoOLf said: What is this? First time boot? Should not take all that time, did you connected to internet for windows uppdates? Not first time. Left it on while I went out for food and returned to this. About to attempt a win 11 reinstall.
PHVM_BR Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 hours ago, ZoOLf said: Ahh i see, good then, i dont want to flash the xmg bios and finish with missmatch FN key. I will try XTU, for cpu OC. For GPU you use Msi afterburner i guess? For the ram i have kingston fury impact 2x16 5600mhz single rank. I never messed with ram timing, so i just have to change only those timing and voltage in bios? If it dont post i need to clear cmos isnt? Yes, I use Afterburner. In the advanced BIOS tab, which is unlocked by checking the option in the manual settings of the Control Center, you adjust the memory and unlock undervolt protection. If you've never adjusted memory before, I recommend doing some research first. Generally, if the adjustment doesn't POST, the system itself reverts the changes and restarts Windows after a few minutes of trying to train the memory. If the system doesn't restart automatically, simply restore the factory settings: With the charger disconnected, press and hold Ctrl + F11 and click the power button for a few seconds. When the keyboard starts flashing, you can release Ctrl and F11. Wait a few minutes and the system will restart with the default settings.
ZoOLf Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 50 minutes ago, PHVM_BR said: Yes, I use Afterburner. In the advanced BIOS tab, which is unlocked by checking the option in the manual settings of the Control Center, you adjust the memory and unlock undervolt protection. If you've never adjusted memory before, I recommend doing some research first. Generally, if the adjustment doesn't POST, the system itself reverts the changes and restarts Windows after a few minutes of trying to train the memory. If the system doesn't restart automatically, simply restore the factory settings: With the charger disconnected, press and hold Ctrl + F11 and click the power button for a few seconds. When the keyboard starts flashing, you can release Ctrl and F11. Wait a few minutes and the system will restart with the default settings. Thx for all this clear clarifications. Another questions please, In XTU for the P core, do you use adaptive voltage mod or static?. I got around 41k in cinebench 23 using a mix between bios high perf mod and some undervolt with TS. But now i revert to full xtu the max i can get is 40k. Also do you use watercooling or cooling pad? Can you test nomad steel bench? Im getting around 5400 5500.
MiSJAH Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I'm trying to install XTU but it's saying unsupported platform on install. I have secure boot disabled and unvolting enabled in the bios, have I missed something? Thanks.
PHVM_BR Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 6 minutes ago, MiSJAH said: I'm trying to install XTU but it's saying unsupported platform on install. I have secure boot disabled and unvolting enabled in the bios, have I missed something? Thanks. Have you disabled Windows Core Isolation and virtualization features in the BIOS? Which version of XTU are you trying to use?
ZoOLf Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 10 minutes ago, MiSJAH said: I'm trying to install XTU but it's saying unsupported platform on install. I have secure boot disabled and unvolting enabled in the bios, have I missed something? Thanks. You need to select Cpu advanced per mod in CC
MiSJAH Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, PHVM_BR said: Have you disabled Windows Core Isolation and virtualization features in the BIOS? Which version of XTU are you trying to use? I have Intel VMX Virtualization disabled, can't find Core Isolation in the BIOS. Trying to install XTU 7.14.2.69
MiSJAH Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ZoOLf said: You need to select Cpu advanced per mod in CC Yup, got CPU ADV Perf Menu active.
PHVM_BR Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 22 minutes ago, ZoOLf said: Thx for all this clear clarifications. Another questions please, In XTU for the P core, do you use adaptive voltage mod or static?. I got around 41k in cinebench 23 using a mix between bios high perf mod and some undervolt with TS. But now i revert to full xtu the max i can get is 40k. Also do you use watercooling or cooling pad? Can you test nomad steel bench? Im getting around 5400 5500. I use adaptive voltage. XTU is a heavier software than Throttlestop, so I recommend applying all settings and then closing the program. Your settings will remain until the system is turned off or restarted. If Throttlestop works better for you, use it! I've always used and preferred Throttlestop, but I switched to XTU with this system because of the extra adjustment possibilities. I don't have a liquid cooling system and I use an IETS GT600. I've tested Steel Nomad a little and haven't yet fine-tuned the system for this benchmark: https://www.3dmark.com/sn/12124446
ZoOLf Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 7 minutes ago, MiSJAH said: I have Intel VMX Virtualization disabled, can't find Core Isolation in the BIOS. Trying to install XTU 7.14.2.69 Core isolation is in windows not bios , memory integrity
PHVM_BR Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 5 minutes ago, MiSJAH said: I have Intel VMX Virtualization disabled, can't find Core Isolation in the BIOS. Trying to install XTU 7.14.2.69 You must disable virtualization in the BIOS. Core isolation is disabled in Windows. The XTU version compatible with Core Ultra (Arrow Lake) is version 10xxx. The version you are trying to use, 7xxx, is compatible with older generation CPUs.
ZoOLf Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, PHVM_BR said: I use adaptive voltage. XTU is a heavier software than Throttlestop, so I recommend applying all settings and then closing the program. Your settings will remain until the system is turned off or restarted. If Throttlestop works better for you, use it! I've always used and preferred Throttlestop, but I switched to XTU with this system because of the extra adjustment possibilities. I don't have a liquid cooling system and I use an IETS GT600. I've tested Steel Nomad a little and haven't yet fine-tuned the system for this benchmark: https://www.3dmark.com/sn/12124446 Nice score, I know i asked a lot, But im a little lost with xtu. Can you share screenshots of xtu advanced tuning tab of what you changed, I have BS2 Pro cooling pad and my cpu throttle before finishing the bench @95c.
PHVM_BR Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, ZoOLf said: Nice score, I know i asked a lot, But im a little lost with xtu. Can you share screenshots of xtu advanced tuning tab of what you changed, I have BS2 Pro cooling pad and my cpu throttle before finishing the bench @95c. I don't have my laptop with me right now. I can post tomorrow or the day after, but there's no secret. Undervolt the P-core, undervolt the E-core, undervolt and/or overclock the cache, ICCMax = Unlimited on both the iGPU and the CPU.
win32asmguy Posted 13 hours ago Author Posted 13 hours ago 7 hours ago, PHVM_BR said: I achieved a stable 6400MT/s CL36-39-39-54 at 1.3V. I tried 6800MT/s at 1.35V but it didn't POST. I stopped there... With single-rank memory, 7200 or 7600MT/s at 1.35V should be easily achievable. Out of curiousity what are you running for tREFI at 6400MT to get 84ns in Aida64? I currently have my 2x16GB A-die kit at 6400 38-40-40-80, tREFI 24k, NGU & D2D 30x, Ring 38x which results in around 88ns in Aida64. I also have a 2x24GB M-die kit which can do 7200 at similar timings but I have not long term stability tested it in combined loads, especially given that I do not use the watercooling addon so memory temps have been observed up to 87C. It can do a bit better in Aida64, around 85ns. I did get the final Premamod bios recently so its tuning capabilities are better than the stock bios along with updated microcode and other throttling fixes. Desktop - Intel 285K, Asus Z890 Apex, 48GB DDR5-8400 C36, 800GB Optane P5800X, Corsair HX1500i, Fractal Define 7 XL, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Lenovo Legion 9i G10 - 275HX, 2x32GB Kingston Fury DDR5-5200 CL38, 4TB WD 8100, RTX 5090 mobile, 18.0 inch FHD+ 440hz IPS, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Hydroc G2 / Uniwill IDY X6AR559Y - 275HX, 2x16GB DDR5-6400 CL38, 4TB WD SN850X, RTX 5090 mobile, 16.0 inch QHD+ 300hz MiniLED, Windows 11 Pro 24H2
MiSJAH Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 27 minutes ago, PHVM_BR said: You must disable virtualization in the BIOS. Core isolation is disabled in Windows. The XTU version compatible with Core Ultra (Arrow Lake) is version 10xxx. The version you are trying to use, 7xxx, is compatible with older generation CPUs. Yeah, it was as simple as trying to run the wrong version. Edit: You have to undervolt core by core now? Edited 13 hours ago by MiSJAH 1
PHVM_BR Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, win32asmguy said: Out of curiousity what are you running for tREFI at 6400MT to get 84ns in Aida64? I have tREFI = 24576 To achieve 84ns I have: NGU = 3.0GHz D2D = 3.1GHz Cache = 4.0GHz For me, overclock the ring to 4.0GHz decreased the latency by ~2ns. Is it possible to get the Premamod BIOS without an Eluktronics laptop? I messaged Prema about this, but haven't received a response... I really want the higher power limit (250W vs 210W), as well as the extra adjustment options.
PHVM_BR Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, MiSJAH said: Edit: You have to undervolt core by core now? Not yet, I just select all P-cores (or all E-cores) and set the undervolt.
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