Ray Tracing on M18xR2 - RTX 3000 MXM Upgrade!

[janepa]

20 hours ago, ssj92 said:

We can try that one after. 

 

Once you test on your normal board, try doing the rebar enable through command prompt. 

 

Also, in the BIOS there's a setting called MAX TOLUD. I think default is 2.25GB or 2.5GB. 

 

After you have tried the command prompt enable (even if it works or not). Go to bios and change MAX TOLUD value to "Dynamic". Then see if it works. 

 

I don't think it's exactly the same as above 4g decode, but should help hopefully. 

 

 

Okay, I have new insights. After rebooting,  restarted ReBarState again and this is result .

 

 

Unfortunately after few seconds windows was freezing and after reboot again and in safemode too ,but i think rebar was created what i watch on sreenshot. I will try a new install of windows and see .

 

[ssj92]

11 hours ago, janepa said:

Okay, I have new insights. After rebooting,  restarted ReBarState again and this is result .

 

 

Unfortunately after few seconds windows was freezing and after reboot again and in safemode too ,but i think rebar was created what i watch on sreenshot. I will try a new install of windows and see .

 

Look for MAX TOLUD in BIOS. try changing to dynamic, if that doesn't work, then try 1GB, 1.25GB, 3GB, 3.25GB etc. Try the different values and see if it helps. 

 

According to you rebarstate, it is on, so it is working. You can try a higher value, instead of 8 you can try 16 etc. 

[janepa]

On 1/28/2025 at 4:54 AM, ssj92 said:

Look for MAX TOLUD in BIOS. try changing to dynamic, if that doesn't work, then try 1GB, 1.25GB, 3GB, 3.25GB etc. Try the different values and see if it helps. 

 

According to you rebarstate, it is on, so it is working. You can try a higher value, instead of 8 you can try 16 etc. 

Okay, I'm back. Sorry for my late I made a new win 10 and 11 now no freezing ,but result is not what i expect. I was trying every combinations, but ReBarState say yes and  GPU-Z say no.

[janepa]

On 1/28/2025 at 4:54 AM, ssj92 said:

Look for MAX TOLUD in BIOS. try changing to dynamic, if that doesn't work, then try 1GB, 1.25GB, 3GB, 3.25GB etc. Try the different values and see if it helps. 

 

According to you rebarstate, it is on, so it is working. You can try a higher value, instead of 8 you can try 16 etc. 

And I tried NvStrapsReBar and maybe that helps a little bit.

[ssj92]

On 2/8/2025 at 7:14 AM, janepa said:

Okay, I'm back. Sorry for my late I made a new win 10 and 11 now no freezing ,but result is not what i expect. I was trying every combinations, but ReBarState say yes and  GPU-Z say no.

So every TOLUD setting results in “No” for GPU-z bios rebar status? 
 

we can try making another bios with nvstraps version instead to test 

[janepa]

13 hours ago, ssj92 said:

So every TOLUD setting results in “No” for GPU-z bios rebar status? 
 

we can try making another bios with nvstraps version instead to test 

Yes, every TOLUD setting does absolutely nothing with the ReBarDxe.ffs file in the bios. Only in the ReBarState cmd was the resizing visible.
I created a new bios with the NvStrapsReBar.ffs file and tested using the NvStrapsReBar cmd so I tried probably all combinations and the result was a bios error after reboot just no boot sequence . Only the new reflash solution so more than 40 flashings and the same result. I think there is something different between desktop and laptop motherboards.

 

W25Q64NvStrapsReBar.rar

[janepa]

4 minutes ago, janepa said:

 

I did some searching and i will try for create a custom ffs file . See on video.

 

[ssj92]

I finally got all my laptops and GPUs back so I will also try different bios mods on my machine. 

 

Let me know if you make any progress @janepa

[ssj92]

On 1/17/2025 at 3:45 PM, panda_zzz said:

 

Do you know if the ZRT 4090 will also work in M18xR2? Or tested it in M17xR4? 
 

I wonder if @Maks0098 knows as well. I have the opportunity to buy one but it’s very expensive. 

[panda_zzz]

1 hour ago, ssj92 said:

Do you know if the ZRT 4090 will also work in M18xR2? Or tested it in M17xR4? 

No I haven't tried the 4090 card, I think it's too overkill for the m18x r2 | m17x r4.
I originally bought the 4060 for the m4800, but so far I haven't been able to get it to work properly

[ssj92]

1 hour ago, panda_zzz said:

No I haven't tried the 4090 card, I think it's too overkill for the m18x r2 | m17x r4.
I originally bought the 4060 for the m4800, but so far I haven't been able to get it to work properly

The 4060 didn’t work properly in M17xR4? You cannot run 3d applications?

[panda_zzz]

1 hour ago, ssj92 said:

The 4060 didn’t work properly in M17xR4? You cannot run 3d applications?

it works, but I don't like that it has 8 pcie lines and also the m17x r4 cooling is not well suited for this card because of the high resistor row on the right side of the card

[ssj92]

2 hours ago, panda_zzz said:

it works, but I don't like that it has 8 pcie lines and also the m17x r4 cooling is not well suited for this card because of the high resistor row on the right side of the card

I think 4090 will work out better. Also I have 3080 working and 4090 should have similar layout. Maybe it’s worth the gamble to see if 4090 works since 3080 works and the layout is 99% same. 
 

my biggest concern would be any bios issues but since your 4060 works maybe 4090 will work. I requested a GPu-Z screenshot for advanced PCIe rebar tab to see if bios has rebar disabled. 
 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/32931172
 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/53298114

 

which desktop PCIe to MXM adapter do you use? Worse case I drop it into my desktop 

[panda_zzz]

8 hours ago, ssj92 said:

which desktop PCIe to MXM adapter do you use?

I used a cheap pcie x1 adapter to initially test the card on the desktop

As for the 4000 series, the main problem is to find a bios that will allow to start without 4g decoding support. the original bios from x-vsion allowed it. after trying a couple of them from techpowerup I found out that in most cases it is not. now I am trying to find a working version for 45 watts.

[ssj92]

11k GPU score 

 

[SuperMG3]

On 2/20/2025 at 2:45 AM, ssj92 said:

11k GPU score 

 

How do you have 11k score? I only get 9500... Show me your GPU-Z VBIOS settings please

 

Also my RTX 3080 is dead. It's recognised as 8GB instead of 16GB and sometimes it's 0MB. It always BSOD and can't run 3d apps. Only the RTX 3060 MXM works fine.

[SuperMG3]

On 2/20/2025 at 2:45 AM, ssj92 said:

11k GPU score 

 

Can you show your GPU-Z screen? And the bios information?

 

You're literally pulling more than my previously working card and Idk how.

[ssj92]

6 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Can you show your GPU-Z screen? And the bios information?

 

You're literally pulling more than my previously working card and Idk how.

I;m using my M18xR1 right now so GPU-Z will have to wait. 

 

All DX12 titles are stuck at 60fps for some reason on 3080. To get past this, overclock the display to 75-80hz. 

[SuperMG3]

34 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

I;m using my M18xR1 right now so GPU-Z will have to wait. 

 

All DX12 titles are stuck at 60fps for some reason on 3080. To get past this, overclock the display to 75-80hz. 

So 3080 works on R1 as slave? With master GPU being Nvidia I suppose?

 

Isn't overclocking display dangerous? On 3dmark I was getting max 62fps

 

So you managed to get 11k with 115W bios?

Edited March 17 by SuperMG3

[ssj92]

2 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

So 3080 works on R1 as slave? With master GPU being Nvidia I suppose?

 

Isn't overclocking display dangerous? On 3dmark I was getting max 62fps

 

So you managed to get 11k with 115W bios?

No I meant I’m typing these replies from M18xR1, the 3080 is in my R2. vBIOS is 115w TDP for sure. Idk anyone with a higher TDP 3080 MXM vBIOS. Yes display overclocking can be scary but as long as the display looks normal (no lines etc) it should be fine. Wait 20 mins for panel to warm up then try 75hz. It should increase score. 

[SuperMG3]

1 hour ago, ssj92 said:

No I meant I’m typing these replies from M18xR1, the 3080 is in my R2. vBIOS is 115w TDP for sure. Idk anyone with a higher TDP 3080 MXM vBIOS. Yes display overclocking can be scary but as long as the display looks normal (no lines etc) it should be fine. Wait 20 mins for panel to warm up then try 75hz. It should increase score. 

Oh okay.

 

I'm waiting X-Vsion to reply for my issue.

 

Once my card gets fixed or replaced because I have one year of warranty, I'll try to OC to 70Hz and I'll see.

 

Can't we tell to the Nvidia Panel to run the apps at 75FPS?

 

Also I'm sure the RTX 3080 MXM would work on the Alienware M18X R1 since you can use two different GPUs (master for display and slave for rendering like the RTX 5000 Turing)

[ssj92]

7 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Oh okay.

 

I'm waiting X-Vsion to reply for my issue.

 

Once my card gets fixed or replaced because I have one year of warranty, I'll try to OC to 70Hz and I'll see.

 

Can't we tell to the Nvidia Panel to run the apps at 75FPS?

 

Also I'm sure the RTX 3080 MXM would work on the Alienware M18X R1 since you can use two different GPUs (master for display and slave for rendering like the RTX 5000 Turing)

The RTX 3080 causes the bios screen to freeze in SG on M18xR1. So chances of it working in PEG as secondary card are low.

 

Most likely a vBIOS issue. 

[SuperMG3]

4 hours ago, ssj92 said:

The RTX 3080 causes the bios screen to freeze in SG on M18xR1. So chances of it working in PEG as secondary card are low.

 

Most likely a vBIOS issue. 

PEG, no SLI.

 

GTX 600M series + RTX 3080?

 

Aren't you the one who made the RTX 5000 Turing work on the Alienware M18X R1?

[ssj92]

2 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

PEG, no SLI.

 

GTX 600M series + RTX 3080?

 

Aren't you the one who made the RTX 5000 Turing work on the Alienware M18X R1?

Yes with 880M + RTX 5000 and M2000M + RTX 5000.

 

not all cards work. GTX 1080 causes restart loop. 3080 causes laptop to freeze at Alienware logo. 
 

980M also causes freeze at AW logo.

[SuperMG3]

3 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Yes with 880M + RTX 5000 and M2000M + RTX 5000.

 

not all cards work. GTX 1080 causes restart loop. 3080 causes laptop to freeze at Alienware logo. 
 

980M also causes freeze at AW logo.

But why it causes freeze? Because of being a GeForce card?