Reciever Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Good afternoon, ladies and gents! Due to the temperature rise in Texas and also a new type of power plan for our home its become more justified to turn off the mining equipment in a venture to consolidate everything into one system as well as take a headfirst dive into Linux, amongst other things. I have 4 1200w HP server PSU's that I use for mining. My old main system which was converted into mining last year uses an EVGA 550w which was great for my 2700x and 5700xt. I plan to keep using them to power my GPU's save for the primary. The great missing link here is a proper PSU for the updated rig, once again, thanks to @Mr. Fox providing an (lets say) innocent suggestion by providing this forums potentially highest value with his bundle that he sold to me not too long ago, found here. For the time being I plan to use my NH-D15 so while I may not be able to hit top potential clocks, I still plan to take full advantage of the K chip. Here is the rub. Consolidation with minimal investment. This isnt to mean "Cheap", and also fast delivery or local pickup in the 76001 area code. I believe there is a bestbuy somewhat nearby but more importantly there is a MicroCenter. Amazon also if I can snag it over night or Sunday. What I need for now is a power supply for the bundle above with the addition of a 3090 or 6900xt in terms of power requirement. The only condition is I refuse to purchase anything from Corsair. Thanks in advance everyone, I realize its a lot of context coupled with time sensitivity. @electrosoft@Rage Set@Custom90gt @Papusan 3 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Reciever said: Good afternoon, ladies and gents! Due to the temperature rise in Texas and also a new type of power plan for our home its become more justified to turn off the mining equipment in a venture to consolidate everything into one system as well as take a headfirst dive into Linux, amongst other things. I have 4 1200w HP server PSU's that I use for mining. My old main system which was converted into mining last year uses an EVGA 550w which was great for my 2700x and 5700xt. I plan to keep using them to power my GPU's save for the primary. The great missing link here is a proper PSU for the updated rig, once again, thanks to @Mr. Fox providing an (lets say) innocent suggestion by providing this forums potentially highest value with his bundle that he sold to me not too long ago, found here. For the time being I plan to use my NH-D15 so while I may not be able to hit top potential clocks, I still plan to take full advantage of the K chip. Here is the rub. Consolidation with minimal investment. This isnt to mean "Cheap", and also fast delivery or local pickup in the 76001 area code. I believe there is a bestbuy somewhat nearby but more importantly there is a MicroCenter. Amazon also if I can snag it over night or Sunday. What I need for now is a power supply for the bundle above with the addition of a 3090 or 6900xt in terms of power requirement. The only condition is I refuse to purchase anything from Corsair. Thanks in advance everyone, I realize its a lot of context coupled with time sensitivity. @electrosoft@Rage Set@Custom90gt @Papusan I got the Be Quiet Dark 1500 and happy with it. Cheaper than the 1600 from Evga and Corsair but on same level in quality and power. If you don’t need a psu now then wait for the new one that will come for 4000 series graphics cards. Not much out there now with the new specs. Here’s the one I bought https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/1943 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 Im not sure if this link will work but its the current filters I am looking at. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=psu+850w&rh=p_101%3A19346685011%2Cp_36%3A-15000&dc&qid=1650059365&rnid=386442011&sprefix=PSU+%2Caps%2C170&ref=sr_nr_p_36_4 I dont need a huge power supply, but something that is adequate for a 10850K (OC) and 3090/6900xt. I have had good experiences with the Supernova lineup in the past, are they still up to par? https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-GP-0750-X1/dp/B0797HL9Z4/ref=sr_1_8?dd=71HHRGS1-1WS_x-OSvR5otNGzeC2M1AGI-JCm90QnS4%2C&ddc_refnmnt=free&keywords=psu+850w&qid=1650059444&refinements=p_101%3A19346685011%2Cp_36%3A-15000&rnid=386442011&sprefix=PSU+%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-8 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Depending on the curve and pull you experience with the 10850k along with how far you want to take it, budget at least 350w and 500w for the 3090 and 400w for the 6900xt. If you're going to work with 520w or unlocked vBIOS for the 3090 adjust accordingly. So you are looking at 800w min just for those two items. I'd would say a 1000w is the min and a 1200w would be better. 1500w is overkill in the best way. I tripped my EVGA 850w overclocking my 11900k and KPE 3090 for example and switched to a 1000 Seasonic Focus and moved the 850w to the test rig. My next PSU is going to be min 1500w now that prices are starting to get better. 2 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 So worst case scenario I may just need to move some power to the HP 1200w server power supply if I were to pick up the SuperNOVA 750 G+? Nevermind, seems Amazon pulled the rug out again on me. Probably going to cancel my sub, its irritating to see something advertised as overnight to switch to 2+ days while in checkout. 2 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 I would buy the biggest and best you can handle financially. I agree with Brother @electrosoft that you should NOT go below 1000W. If you buy more PSU than you need, you're good to go now or later. As long as it keeps working you never have to worry about getting a bigger PSU later. I realize you are looking to minimize cost right now, so stick with a known reliable brand 1000W minimum. EVGA warranty service is the best. 1 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: So you are looking at 800w min just for those two items. I'd would say a 1000w is the min and a 1200w would be better. 1500w is overkill in the best way. Yep. 1000W is a minimum. @Reciever can also try the Calculator https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator A failing PSU can drag with the whole system into HW heaven. 2 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 Well, for now I believe I will attempt to re-purpose my 550w for just the CPU/Motherboard until the appropriate deal comes along. I've been putting off using that bundle for a while now, and its best not to make purchases while in am impatient frame of mind lol Especially if pricing is supposedly lowering over time then it would be best to wait. Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I second EVGA for their warranty. I do like Seasonic's flatter and more flexible cabling though. Corsair cables are so stiff and sharp and after the previously mentioned H1200 debacle (cold temps caused brown starts) which took my Z390 FTW with it during a faulty start up, I'm done with them for PSUs. I RMA'd the recalled H1200. They sent me a brand new one and I sold it as is. 2 minutes ago, Reciever said: Well, for now I believe I will attempt to re-purpose my 550w for just the CPU/Motherboard until the appropriate deal comes along. I've been putting off using that bundle for a while now, and its best not to make purchases while in am impatient frame of mind lol Especially if pricing is supposedly lowering over time then it would be best to wait. What have you budgeted for a good PSU? That will really set the narrative for your purchasing adventures. Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, electrosoft said: I second EVGA for their warranty. I do like Seasonic's flatter and more flexible cabling though. Corsair cables are so stiff and sharp and after the previously mentioned H1200 debacle (cold temps caused brown starts) which took my Z390 FTW with it during a faulty start up, I'm done with them for PSUs. I RMA'd the recalled H1200. They sent me a brand new one and I sold it as is. What have you budgeted for a good PSU? That will really set the narrative for your purchasing adventures. Corsair reps insulted me in a product suggestion thread where I recommended that if they follow the trend, 360mm CLC's would likely be an attractive product to the people that wanted water cooling but cant be bothered to make a loop. So I dont participate in their products any longer. I wanted to keep the price around 150 but for 1000w may have to extend that. My first concern is primarily the CPU at this time but its true that buying a larger PSU would make it an easier decision long term. 3 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom90gt Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I wish Oklahoma Wolf never left JohnnyGuru but alas I don't really know of any more great power supply reviews for the past 3 or so years. I really like my EVGA Supernova power supplies that I have. They've been reliable. I agree that I wouldn't go with anything less than 1KW at this time based on the direction CPUs/GPUs are taking. 1 1 Desktop | Intel i9-12900k | ASUS ROG Strix Z690-F | 2x16GB Oloy DDR5 @ 6400mhz CL32 | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | AW3821DW| 980 Pro 1TB PCIe 4.0 | All under water | Server | SM846 | Unraid 6.12.0-rc4.1 | AMD Epyc 7F52 | Supermicro H12SSL-I | Tesla P40 24GB | 256GB 3200MHz ECC 8-channel | 100+TB ZFS | Backup Server | SM826 | Unraid 6.12.0-rc4.1 | AMD Epyc 7302 | Supermicro H11SSL-I | Tesla P4 8GB | 256GB 2133MHz ECC 8-channel | 100+TB ZFS | Dell XPS 9510 | Intel i7-11800H | RTX 3050 Ti | 16GB 3200mhz | 1TB SX8200 | 1080P | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 16 hours ago, Reciever said: Corsair reps insulted me in a product suggestion thread where I recommended that if they follow the trend, 360mm CLC's would likely be an attractive product to the people that wanted water cooling but cant be bothered to make a loop. So I dont participate in their products any longer. I wanted to keep the price around 150 but for 1000w may have to extend that. My first concern is primarily the CPU at this time but its true that buying a larger PSU would make it an easier decision long term. If I was shopping for a 1600w PSU right now, I would pick up an EVGA Platinum 1600w which has dropped $140USD to $359.99 w/ a 10yr warranty: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-PP-1600-X1 For 1000w I would have no problems using an EVGA 1000w G6 on sale for $179.99: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-G6-1000-X1 As it stands now, personally, I am going to wait for the new generation of PSUs with the new power connectors and ride my Seasonic 1000w, EVGA 850w till then. Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 @Mr. Fox I noticed the bundle you sold me has the extra 4 pin CPU power, what PSU did you typically use with it? Or is that simply made from an adapter solution? 1 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Reciever said: @Mr. Fox I noticed the bundle you sold me has the extra 4 pin CPU power, what PSU did you typically use with it? Or is that simply made from an adapter solution? Hey bro, it's an ordinary EPS connection that all modern PSUs support. Each EPS cable has an 8-pin connector that is split in a 4+4 male plug on the motherboard end. To use the supplemental 4-pin power (optional) you simply plug in half of a second EPS cable. In concept it works the same as the 6+2 VGA power connection, where you omit the 2-pin connection on a GPU that only has a 6-pin power connection. You must connect at least one 8-pin (4+4) EPS cable to the motherboard. The extra 4-pin connection is for higher power demands like severe overclocking. It spreads the load out to reduce heat when all of the load has to be funneled through a single EPS cable. All PSUs of a decent capacity come with at least two CPU EPS cables. Sadly, most of the reasonably-price PSU custom cable kits and generic cable extension kits include only one EPS cable and you usually end up needing to waste money on a second kit just to get the second EPS cable. Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Hey bro, it's an ordinary EPS connection that all modern PSUs support. Each EPS cable has an 8-pin connect that is split in a 4+4 male plug. To use the supplemental 4-pin power (optional) you only plug in half of a second EPS cable. In concept it works the same as the 6+2 VGA power connection, where you omit the 2-pin connection on a GPU that only has a 6-pin power connection. You must connect at least one 8-pin (4+4) cable. The extra 4 are for higher power demands like severe overclocking. It spreads the load out to reduce heat when all of the load has to be funneled through a single EPS cable. Ah gotcha, in retrospect the question is a bit silly. I looked at my current PSU, only 1 CPU power connector. As someone who has had cables burn out via mining, I like the idea of spreading the burden upon more connections even if I cant break any records with my NH-D15. So it looks like a purchase will be required. Currently looking at this unit below https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-GP-0850-X1/dp/B0797D6G5R/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1HX8I8RSUCKCM&keywords=SuperNOVA+1000+G%2B&qid=1650609248&sprefix=supernova+1000+g%2B%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-5 The GPU's will likely be powered by one of my HP 1200w (900w) power supplies so my main concern is delivering what the CPU needs, everything else is secondary 1 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Reciever said: Currently looking at this unit below https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-GP-0850-X1/dp/B0797D6G5R/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1HX8I8RSUCKCM&keywords=SuperNOVA+1000+G%2B&qid=1650609248&sprefix=supernova+1000+g%2B%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-5 That's a good PSU. I have the Bronze version of it in Banshee. 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 Then I will probably order this unit. I liked the open bench you mentioned before, purchased it and everything is already set on it. I think I have a 512GB NVME some where around here I might swap into it though. Its going to be one of those rare scenarios where I am anticipating a build, but also forcing a lesson on top, making Linux the new daily driver. Carrot and stick Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 PSU ordered! Hopefully be here tomorrow 2 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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