Azther Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 not sure when this issue arose since i dont often venture into nvidia control panel, but it refuses to open on LTSC 2021. Tried the standard non DCH drivers but that just causes the right click context on the desktop to hang indefinately and not open at all. gaming works fine it seems, however id like for the control panel to be functional if i ever need to change anything lol Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I have this issue sometimes. Kill any instance of nvcplui.exe. Restart service "NVIDIA Display Container LS". It will normally open after that (but it is very slow to do so). I'm also using LTSC 2021 but I have had this issue on-and-off even on regular Windows 10. (Also, using DCH drivers.) 1 Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 just tried that, in task manager Nvidia control panel shows up but closes a few seconds after. i thought windows blinds or the chris titus tweaks were at fault but at this point im at a loss. Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Azther said: just tried that, in task manager Nvidia control panel shows up but closes a few seconds after. i thought windows blinds or the chris titus tweaks were at fault but at this point im at a loss. Go in to C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\NVIDIACorp.NVIDIAControlPanel_8.1.962.0_x64__56jybvy8sckqj and pin "nvcplui.exe" to start or just click it open. If it is the same problem I had It might be a corrupted driver. A clean install might fixit or it was a windows update. I had a problem like that on my other install of windows on another drive but not sure if I fixed it. bUT PINNED TO START OR TASKBAR made it work Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 now discovered another issue, heaven benchmark causes dxgmms1.sys BSOD >.> should of stayed on LTSC 2019 lol Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 well ive solved the BSOD issue, i restored my system with a backup image. control panel still doesnt open but least the system is running fine now, when i can be bothered ill use one of my other laptops to make a preconfigured 2019 image i can deploy to multiple systems. that way i can choose to either use LTSC 2019 or upgrade to 2021 Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Interesting. I've never encountered this at all. Is this on a laptop using a mobile driver or desktop computer? Neither one of my desktops experience this issue with Windows 7, Windows 10 LTSC 2019, Windows 10 LTSC 2021 or Winduhz 11. Most of the installations are non-DCH drivers. Is the affected system hybrid graphic or exclusively NVIDIA GPU? (It could be something with the Intel iGPU driver or hybrid graphics causing the issue.) Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 its my frankenstein m18x R2 with the quadro p4000, the same installation has been thru a couple inplace upgrades over time and some chris titus tweaking. its also kept up to date via windows update (including the optional preview updates), which may have caused some fuckery to occur. the driver im using is 511.79 DCH, i did try to DDU and update to the current 516.25 DCH driver but thats when BSOD started occuring when opening the Epic launcher or heaven benchmark. The newer driver also had the non opening control panel issue Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 After doing a complete fresh install everything is working perfectly now, even with the latest 516.25 DCH quadro driver. Now im hesitant to run windows update lol Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Azther said: After doing a complete fresh install everything is working perfectly now, even with the latest 516.25 DCH quadro driver. Now im hesitant to run windows update lol I still get this, its on the same pc, m18xr2 but on my 1st ssd of win 10 21H2 the 2nd ssd, same 21H2 no problem Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, aldarxt said: I still get this, its on the same pc, m18xr2 but on my 1st ssd of win 10 21H2 the 2nd ssd, same 21H2 no problem yeah ive never had that issue, im guessing either a combination of the chris titus tweaks or a bad windows update/multiple inplace upgrades might of broken something in my case. im just gonna run the system vanilla with GPO tweaks in place for now to see how things go (well vanilla in terms of updates/tweaks, still have it looking like vista currently) Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Azther said: yeah ive never had that issue, im guessing either a combination of the chris titus tweaks or a bad windows update/multiple inplace upgrades might of broken something in my case. im just gonna run the system vanilla with GPO tweaks in place for now to see how things go (well vanilla in terms of updates/tweaks, still have it looking like vista currently) I am about to do DDU and update to 516.25, will report back! 1 Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 I did notice something different regarding this driver too, that ECC State option. Could of sworn that wasnt there with my 511 drivers. Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Azther said: I did notice something different regarding this driver too, that ECC State option. Could of sworn that wasnt there with my 511 drivers. I think that started in 512, because I was looking for it to get the extra memory out of it by disabling it. Dont know if there is any performance loss but it is supposed to help in studio application accuracy or something like that I dont do, I just want Max Performance even if it trips LOL Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, aldarxt said: I think that started in 512, because I was looking for it to get the extra memory out of it by disabling it. Dont know if there is any performance loss but it is supposed to help in studio application accuracy or something like that I dont do, I just want Max Performance even if it trips LOL yeah its turned off by default so i just left it alone, was just surprised to see it there. Good to know tho for future reference Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Azther said: yeah its turned off by default so i just left it alone, was just surprised to see it there. Good to know tho for future reference Thats strange, when I first encountered it it was on, so I unchecked it and needed to restart, and its been off ever since And that was on both my m18x and m17x Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 So I updated Nvidia drivers to latest Quadro and win 10 21H2 latest update and Nvidia Control Panel App not opening the panel bit the shortcut I pinned to start works just fine. This is only happening on one install of win 10 on the first SSD. The 2nd install on the 2nd SSD works just fine Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 hours ago, aldarxt said: So I updated Nvidia drivers to latest Quadro and win 10 21H2 latest update and Nvidia Control Panel App not opening the panel bit the shortcut I pinned to start works just fine. This is only happening on one install of win 10 on the first SSD. The 2nd install on the 2nd SSD works just fine thats strange, kinda makes me hesitant to do windows update in all honesty lol. Maybe i should follow @Mr. Fox example 1 Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I dont think its a windows update issue. This started after swapping cards, gtx 1080 mxm to quadro P4000 mxm back and forth and getting impatient after trying so many driver installs and the 1080 kept failing. This was also trying to work it on 2 seperate win 10 installs on 2 seperate SSDs in the m18xr2 and then going to the m17xr4 with the GTX 1080 failing there to. Besides I just read on this forum "2022 LG Gram 16/17 announced" some great news @RS4 quote "Nope, still using Windows 10. There are no benefits of using Windows 11 for my use case instead there are regressions. I am also liking the fact that Windows 10 is limited to just security updates with no more big feature updates which break things." This is enough to have a BIG Celebration, in fact there should be a Parade!!! Besides the first install on m18xr2 is not my daily driver, the 2nd is so I dont have to deal with the Nvidia control panel problem much. I keep the other install as a fallback in case of windows update issues causing HAVOK 1 Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azther Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, aldarxt said: I dont think its a windows update issue. This started after swapping cards, gtx 1080 mxm to quadro P4000 mxm back and forth and getting impatient after trying so many driver installs and the 1080 kept failing. This was also trying to work it on 2 seperate win 10 installs on 2 seperate SSDs in the m18xr2 and then going to the m17xr4 with the GTX 1080 failing there to. Besides I just read on this forum "2022 LG Gram 16/17 announced" some great news @RS4 quote "Nope, still using Windows 10. There are no benefits of using Windows 11 for my use case instead there are regressions. I am also liking the fact that Windows 10 is limited to just security updates with no more big feature updates which break things." This is enough to have a BIG Celebration, in fact there should be a Parade!!! Besides the first install on m18xr2 is not my daily driver, the 2nd is so I dont have to deal with the Nvidia control panel problem much. I keep the other install as a fallback in case of windows update issues causing HAVOK Can confirm windows update wasnt the issue, just ran it and its fully up to date and control panel opens normally, how bizarre lol Alienware M18X R2 | Nebula Red | i7 3740QM [OC'd to 4Ghz] | 32GB RAM | NVIDIA Quadro P4000 | 75hz OC'd Display | MXM to NVMe Adapter with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB Alienware 17 R4 | i7 6700HQ | 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 | 100hz OC'd LG 1080p Display Alienware M18X R1 | Space Black | i7 2960XM | 16GB RAM | GTX 780M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldarxt Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, Azther said: Can confirm windows update wasnt the issue, just ran it and its fully up to date and control panel opens normally, how bizarre lol Glad to hear it, helps with narrowing it down Clevo P870DM3-G i9-9900k-32.0GB 2667mhz-RTX3080+GTX1080 Alienware M18x R2 i7-3920xm-32GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM-16GB DDR3-RTX 3000 Alienware M17x R4 i7-3940XM 20GB DDR3-P4000 120hz 3D Precision m6700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-GTX 970M Precision m4700 i7-3840QM-16GB DDR3-T2000M HP ZBook 17 G6 i7 9850H-32GB DDR4-RTX4000maxQ GOBOXX SLM G2721-i7-10875H RTX 3000-32GB ddr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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