Aaron44126 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, katalin_2003 said: I ended up purchasing the Samsung 980 PRO with heatsink, model MZ-V8P2T0CW. Don’t think that the heatsink will fit. There’s not much clearance between the drive and the chassis bottom cover. Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalin_2003 Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said: Don’t think that the heatsink will fit. There’s not much clearance between the drive and the chassis bottom cover. Oh bummer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Peterson Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 6:06 PM, solidus1983 said: I didn't see that mentioned on their page but nice to know, but then again it didn't state that the 7560 has 3 m.2 slots and on the 7760 it has 4. On Page 18 of Dell's Precision 7560 Setup and specifications manual one row of the "Table 13. Storage specifications" says: Storage type: M.2 2280 solid-state drive Interface type: PCIe NVMe Gen4 x4 Capacity: Up to 4 TB I replaced the original Dell 256GB drive with a "SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c", part #: MZ-V8P2T0B/AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalin_2003 Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 So I received the Precisions 7560 today and attempted to install the Samsung 980 PRO with heatsink, model MZ-V8P2T0CW, in it. It protrudes enough to prevent the SSD door from closing. All is not lost though, I’ll order a heatsink-less one and install this one on my desktop. @Aaron44126's assumption was correct. So for whoever reads this, purchase a SSD with thinner heatsink, this one’s not it, or install the one that comes with the OEM drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpro69 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, katalin_2003 said: purchase a SSD with thinner heatsink Is there anything noteworthy out there with a thinner heatsink that will fit? Or is a "heatsink-less" the only option here? GitHub Currently and formerly owned laptops (specs below): Serenity -> Dell Precision 5560 N-1 -> Dell Precision 5560 (my lady's) Razor Crest -> Lenovo ThinkPad P16 (work) Millenium Falcon -> Dell Precision 5530 (work) Axiom -> Lenovo ThinkPad P52 (work) Moldy Crow -> Dell XPS 15 9550 Spoiler Senenity / N-1: Dell Precision 5560 i7-11800H CPU 1x32 GB DDR4 2,666 MHz 512 GB SSD NVIDIA T1200 FHD+ 1920x1200 PopOS 22.04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalin_2003 Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, serpro69 said: Is there anything noteworthy out there with a thinner heatsink that will fit? Or is a "heatsink-less" the only option here? I can’t advise going with one brand or another with these PCIe Gen4 drives as I have no experience with them. I just ordered a 2Tb Samsung 980 Pro, model MZ-V8P2T0BW. It should arrive this Wednesday. While it should fit, I can’t recall where I read about them running hot. I'll let you know how this goes. Maybe I’ll try with the stock heatsink that comes with the OEM drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 57 minutes ago, katalin_2003 said: Maybe I’ll try with the stock heatsink that comes with the OEM drive. The system should have come with a plain metal plate heatsink for all of the NVMe drive slots (even slots that shipped without a drive in them). You should use that heatsink with your new drive. Don't run it without a heatsink at all. If you move the original OEM drive from the PCIe4 slot to one of the PCIe3 slots, swap the heatsinks around appropriately so that they stay with their original slots. The PCIe4 slot heatsink is a bit different than the PCIe3 slot heatsinks. 1 hour ago, serpro69 said: Is there anything noteworthy out there with a thinner heatsink that will fit? Or is a "heatsink-less" the only option here? There is rather little clearance. I'd assume that a NVMe drive that comes with a heatsink attached is intended for desktop use. I still think that it might be beneficial to put some thick thermal pad on top of the PCIe4 slot heatsink in this system so that there is contact between the heatsink and the chassis (like there is with the PCIe3 slots). This would probably be better if you have the chassis without the SSD door. (I have not tested this to see if it really makes a difference, though.) 1 1 Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturnotaku Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 The 980 Pro is a terrific SSD, more so when I paid less than $200 for a 2 TB one thanks to sale prices, gift cards, and rewards points from Best Buy. I originally had it in my ThinkPad but ended up returning that laptop so it's pulling duty as the boot drive for my desktop. While the 9th-gen Core i7 doesn't support PCI-E Gen 4, once I upgrade to Alder Lake or Ryzen 7000, that won't be an issue. I'll be repurposing my Samsung 970 Evo for laptop duty eventually. I'm currently evaluating the 2022 Asus Zephyrus M16 as a portable gaming/work solution. So far it's decent, but thankfully due to having Best Buy Elite Plus status, I have 45 days to make up my mind. Desktop: Ryzen 5 5600X3D | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4070 Super | 4 TB SSD | Windows 11 Gigabyte Aorus 16X: Core i7-14650HX | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4070 | 2 TB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 3 Gaming: Ryzen 7 6800H | 16 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 3050 | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro: Ryzen 5 5600U | 16 GB RAM | Radeon Graphics | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalin_2003 Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Aaron44126 said: The system should have come with a plain metal plate heatsink for all of the NVMe drive slots (even slots that shipped without a drive in them). You should use that heatsink with your new drive. Don't run it without a heatsink at all. If you move the original OEM drive from the PCIe4 slot to one of the PCIe3 slots, swap the heatsinks around appropriately so that they stay with their original slots. The PCIe4 slot heatsink is a bit different than the PCIe3 slot heatsinks. It does. Good on their part to not only include the extra heatsinks but the thermal pads as well. Good change from the time of the M17x Alienwares where you had to order caddies and screws separately. Thanks for the tip. I swapped the RAM earlier and noticed the difference between the heatsinks. 👍🏼 Will swap them out once the new drive arrives. By the way, while in there earlier, I noticed they got rid of the switch on the motherboard, under the blue tab, the solder pads are there though. Guess they got too many calls about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32asmguy Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 19 hours ago, katalin_2003 said: It does. Good on their part to not only include the extra heatsinks but the thermal pads as well. Good change from the time of the M17x Alienwares where you had to order caddies and screws separately. Thanks for the tip. I swapped the RAM earlier and noticed the difference between the heatsinks. 👍🏼 Will swap them out once the new drive arrives. By the way, while in there earlier, I noticed they got rid of the switch on the motherboard, under the blue tab, the solder pads are there though. Guess they got too many calls about it. If you find the stock heatsink is still thermal throttling it is possible to use a 2mm height aftermarket heatsink. It is even a better situation now that you do not have to worry about depressing that drive slot power switch. I also tried 4mm which definitely was too thick with the bottom cover in place. 1 1 Desktop - 12900KS, 32GB DDR5-6400 C32, 2TB WD SN850, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Clevo PE60SNE - 14900HX, 32GB DDR5-5600 CL40, 4TB WD SN850X, RTX 4070 mobile, 16.0 inch FHD+ 165hz, System76 open source firmware, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalin_2003 Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, win32asmguy said: If you find the stock heatsink is still thermal throttling it is possible to use a 2mm height aftermarket heatsink. It is even a better situation now that you do not have to worry about depressing that drive slot power switch. I also tried 4mm which definitely was too thick with the bottom cover in place. Good point. I’m going to go this route and look for a thicker aftermarket one. Thanks! EDIT: @win32asmguy I was wondering, was the 4mm heatsink you tried the same design as the one in your photo? The reason I’m asking was maybe you could’ve probably saved on the height, by what looks to be 1mm, by running the silicone/rubber bands in the grooves. I'm seeing all sorts of designs and leaning towards a pure copper one: https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B092V9GF43/ Edited February 15, 2022 by katalin_2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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