SSD's for Notebooks

[Bullit]

Hello, Looking to add a 1TB NVMe SDD to my Lenovo Legion 2021  (PCIe 3.0 4x)  that already have the 512Gb that came with.

 

I am seeing some SSD coming with heatsinks - like Corsair Force  - so i would want to avoid SSD's that get too hot.

 

I have listed these all with 5 years warranty

 

KIOXIA Exceria Plus G2 1TB 3D TLC NVMe    120 euro   

 

WD Black SN770  1TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD      109.58 euro

 

Samsung 970 Evo Plus  1TB PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD    125 euro     it is old released in 2019 it seems but still have good results specially very low latency.  (Storage review website)

 

Excluded

Crucial P5 Plus CT1000P5PSSD8  1TB ( this is a PCIe 4.0 SSD, 3D NAND )  reason:  said to have high power consumption idle so not ideal for laptops, some latency issues too (Storage review website)

 

Western Digital Black SN750 1TB 3D NAND NVMe    reason:  performance

 

Crucial P3  Plus   reason:  performance

 

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I am sure i am missing several other, what other models i should look into?

 

 

 

[SvenC]

I had an ADATA Gammix S70 Blade 4TB in my Dell Precision 7740: died after 4 days. Freshly installed Win11 all of a sudden blue screened and then the boot device was not accessible. Booted my old Win100 from another partition: SSD shows now as MN-5236 with 2GB size. You find several posts of identical behavior, e.g. on reddit.

 

Exchanged for a Kingston KC3000 4TB (TLC, PCIe 4.0, ~7000mb/s read and write) which works nicely so far.

[cylix]

Look for the Kingston KC3000 1TB, one of the fastest right now, and its coming with a graphite label for cooling on top

[jaybee83]

On 10/20/2022 at 3:35 AM, Bullit said:

Hello, Looking to add a 1TB NVMe SDD to my Lenovo Legion 2021  (PCIe 3.0 4x)  that already have the 512Gb that came with.

 

I am seeing some SSD coming with heatsinks - like Corsair Force  - so i would want to avoid SSD's that get too hot.

 

I have listed these all with 5 years warranty

 

KIOXIA Exceria Plus G2 1TB 3D TLC NVMe    120 euro   

 

WD Black SN770  1TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD      109.58 euro

 

Samsung 970 Evo Plus  1TB PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD    125 euro     it is old released in 2019 it seems but still have good results specially very low latency.  (Storage review website)

 

Excluded

Crucial P5 Plus CT1000P5PSSD8  1TB ( this is a PCIe 4.0 SSD, 3D NAND )  reason:  said to have high power consumption idle so not ideal for laptops, some latency issues too (Storage review website)

 

Western Digital Black SN750 1TB 3D NAND NVMe    reason:  performance

 

Crucial P3  Plus   reason:  performance

 

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I am sure i am missing several other, what other models i should look into?

 

 

 

 

at PCIe 3.0 4x u cant go wrong with the 970 Evo Plus, tbh. Samsung's reliability in all things SSD is still pretty much unbeaten to this day.

 

@cylix the KC3000 wont help him much on PCIe 3.0 mate 😄 

[cylix]

28 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

at PCIe 3.0 4x u cant go wrong with the 970 Evo Plus, tbh. Samsung's reliability in all things SSD is still pretty much unbeaten to this day.

 

@cylix the KC3000 wont help him much on PCIe 3.0 mate 😄 

a shit now i saw its 3x 😁

[RS4]

For notebooks the most important metric is power/battery efficiency and SK Hynix Gold P31 is the big winner in that department, Anandtech review:

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16012/the-sk-hynix-gold-p31-ssd-review/8

 

 

[jaybee83]

45 minutes ago, RS4 said:

For notebooks the most important metric is power/battery efficiency and SK Hynix Gold P31 is the big winner in that department, Anandtech review:

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16012/the-sk-hynix-gold-p31-ssd-review/8

 

 

yep at first i was thinking of that as well. but its not available in europe, which i assume is the OP's location due to him/her citing prices in €. so would have to add shipping and import taxes from the US, Korea, China or Taiwan (those are the listings ive seen so far on ebay).

[Bullit]

Correct jaybee83, i am in Europe and haven't access to a bunch of SSD makers.

 

I have the first Samsung Evo model in 2013 a SATA 128Gb still going in the older laptop, the WD HDD that also came with it already died. One more data point to show the SSD advantage over HDD's...

 

[RS4]

13 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

yep at first i was thinking of that as well. but its not available in europe, which i assume is the OP's location due to him/her citing prices in €. so would have to add shipping and import taxes from the US, Korea, China or Taiwan (those are the listings ive seen so far on ebay).

 

Yup, SK Hynix started their consumer division only a few years back and don't sell in many countries. I asked my friend who was visiting USA to get the 2TB Hynix P31 to India.

[KING19]

Since its going to be used as a secondary drive/data drive you dont need anything special

 

You cant do no wrong if you go with the Samsung EVO series.

 

You can also check out TEAMGROUP MP34 SSDs if they're available in your country. Its the one i am using with my Legion 5, It's a underrated SSD which rivals the Samsung EVOs in terms of warranty and endurance.

[John Ratsey]

I think modern SSDs run cooler than earlier generations. FWIW I've got both a WD850 2TB and a WD770 2TB in my LG Gram 17 each with a thermal pad about 1.5mm thick which I happened to have in the drawer. I've just hit both SSDs with a couple of passes of CrystalDiskMark 4GB Q32T1 (which seems to be the fastest of the tests) and the SN850 maxed out at 68C while the SN770 reached 72C. Both cooled down quickly to around 40C (room temperature is about 22C). Actual ambient temperature in a notebook will depend on hardware design and the cooling system. An SSD located close to a CPU or GPU will be more vulnerable to heat from those devices than one located elsewhere and if it's hot at the start of having to do some work then it will be even hotter at the end.

 

If you are frequently doing writes of tens of GBs then thermal performance may be a consideration but otherwise it's not something I would lose sleep over. I've ended up with WD SSDs because a website I buy from had very good offers for these at the time I was looking for something (several months apart) and my research didn't reveal any serious problems with either to discourage me from buying them.

[Bullit]

I am also considering the WD 770, it basically that or the EVO plus.

[jaybee83]

2 hours ago, Bullit said:

I am also considering the WD 770, it basically that or the EVO plus.

i guess u cant go wrong with either of those 🙂 

[JeanLegi]

On 10/26/2022 at 10:46 PM, jaybee83 said:

@cylix the KC3000 wont help him much on PCIe 3.0 mate 😄 

But he can use it on 3.0 gen so why not and it should not get so hot like nvme which work with PCIe 3.0 Gen..

I would say with temperatures the KC3000 could be the better option and for the future a little upgrade.

[SvenC]

I chose the KC3000 even though my Dell 7740 has only PCIe 3, because I'll take it over to next laptop. And I found only the WD SN700 to be cheaper when looking for 4TB drives - so I saw no reason to go with a PCIe 3.0 one.

[jaybee83]

14 hours ago, JeanLegi said:

But he can use it on 3.0 gen so why not and it should not get so hot like nvme which work with PCIe 3.0 Gen..

I would say with temperatures the KC3000 could be the better option and for the future a little upgrade.

 

8 hours ago, SvenC said:

I chose the KC3000 even though my Dell 7740 has only PCIe 3, because I'll take it over to next laptop. And I found only the WD SN700 to be cheaper when looking for 4TB drives - so I saw no reason to go with a PCIe 3.0 one.

nice little future proofing, nothing wrong with that 🙂 should deffo run cooler at the limited 3.0 speeds! 

[Bullit]

It is bit more expensive than SN770 but being able to be transferred to the next laptop might be a consideration depending when PCIe 5 appears. 

They seem to come with heatsink but to install into a Legion will have to take it off?

[Bullit]

Just saw a review that say KC3000 consumes quite a bit on idle

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/723356/best-ssd.html

 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770-1-tb/

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/kingston-kc3000/

 

In most tests the KC3000 don't seem to be faster than SN770 despite the PCIe difference 

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

15 hours ago, Bullit said:

Just saw a review that say KC3000 consumes quite a bit on idle

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/723356/best-ssd.html

 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770-1-tb/

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/kingston-kc3000/

 

In most tests the KC3000 don't seem to be faster than SN770 despite the PCIe difference 

 

 

 

yeah, as with any other hardware u should look at the benchmarks that most closely relate to your actual usage. sequential data transfers are usually at the forefront of ssd marketing but most users dont really use that in daily operations.

[saturnotaku]

Retail SSDs are so commoditized these days that it doesn't really matter what you buy as long as it's from a known brand and has a DRAM cache.

[Bullit]

But SN770 do not have DRAM cache.

 

 

[saturnotaku]

1 hour ago, Bullit said:

But SN770 do not have DRAM cache.

 

 

 

Then buy something that does. They're not much more expensive.

[Bullit]

Well SN770 show better results than others.

[Bullit]

Got the SN770  what to move the W10 Pro that is in 512Gb drive to it, It seems the WD do not have an app for the propose like Samsung, any good option around?

[Bullit]

Benchmark results. SN770 is the faster one, i was not expecting to be that much.