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On 10/20/2022 at 2:06 PM, razor0601 said:

Did someone try to install this card in an Optimus Laptop? On the old NBR there was a Thread that the Tesla M6 works in Precision M6700 and M6800.  Maybe also the P6 could work?

Someone told me they got Tesla P6 working in M17xR3 in Optimus Mode so should work 

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I had zero luck getting an M6 to work in an Optimus Alienware 17 R1. The system would not detect the card at all. Maybe I got a dud card. 

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7 hours ago, Maxware79 said:

I had zero luck getting an M6 to work in an Optimus Alienware 17 R1. The system would not detect the card at all. Maybe I got a dud card. 

Seems weird, I saw a M6 working with the M6700 (similar to M17X R4) and M6800 (same with 17 R1) on youtube. I think M6800 usually came with LVDS, but in 17 R1 idk, maybe it's eDP and that's giving you issues?

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On 11/4/2022 at 9:04 PM, Antagram said:

Seems weird, I saw a M6 working with the M6700 (similar to M17X R4) and M6800 (same with 17 R1) on youtube. I think M6800 usually came with LVDS, but in 17 R1 idk, maybe it's eDP and that's giving you issues?

 

The Optimus 17 R1 is LVDS and the 120hz 3D model is eDP. I tried it in the LVDS option. I had seen it working in the M6800 and I even messaged a guy on ebay who was selling a 6800 with one installed but he wouldn't tell me exactly how he got it working. All he said was that he flashed a quadro vBIOS on it. It has no video out so I was assuming this is why the system wouldn't detect it as a regular display adapter. I couldn't flash a vBIOS since the system wouldn't detect it and I didn't have a programmer. 

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3 hours ago, Maxware79 said:

 

The Optimus 17 R1 is LVDS and the 120hz 3D model is eDP. I tried it in the LVDS option. I had seen it working in the M6800 and I even messaged a guy on ebay who was selling a 6800 with one installed but he wouldn't tell me exactly how he got it working. All he said was that he flashed a quadro vBIOS on it. It has no video out so I was assuming this is why the system wouldn't detect it as a regular display adapter. I couldn't flash a vBIOS since the system wouldn't detect it and I didn't have a programmer. 

I see, that's really unfortunate -.-'

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On 11/5/2022 at 5:11 AM, razor0601 said:

Link to that?

There's no link. The guy selling all the older alienwares on eBay with upgraded graphics told me. He has M17xR3 for sale with RX 560 as well. 

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On 11/4/2022 at 6:34 AM, Antagram said:

Seems weird, I saw a M6 working with the M6700 (similar to M17X R4) and M6800 (same with 17 R1) on youtube. I think M6800 usually came with LVDS, but in 17 R1 idk, maybe it's eDP and that's giving you issues?

 

M6800 transitioned from LVDS to eDP during its life; early systems had LVDS and later systems had eDP (there are two different versions of the motherboard).  I think it wouldn't matter for purposes of trying to use a Tesla card.  Those cards have no direct display output, so you'd have to run with Optimus on regardless of which type of display panel you have.  With Optimus on, the dGPU wouldn't be talking to the display panel at all, so LVDS/eDP "shouldn't" matter.

 

There were indeed multiple success stories with Tesla M6 in Precision M6700 + M6800.  I never saw someone try P6.  At least on the Precision side, M6700+M6800 have vBIOS issues with Pascal cards causing boot crashes, so I would not expect it to work.

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2 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

M6800 transitioned from LVDS to eDP during its life; early systems had LVDS and later systems had eDP (there are two different versions of the motherboard).  I think it wouldn't matter for purposes of trying to use a Tesla card.  Those cards have no direct display output, so you'd have to run with Optimus on regardless of which type of display panel you have.  With Optimus on, the dGPU wouldn't be talking to the display panel at all, so LVDS/eDP "shouldn't" matter.

 

There were indeed multiple success stories with Tesla M6 in Precision M6700 + M6800.  I never saw someone try P6.  At least on the Precision side, M6700+M6800 have vBIOS issues with Pascal cards causing boot crashes, so I would not expect it to work.

I understand, and why they have those problems, is BIOS updates related?

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7 minutes ago, Antagram said:

I understand, and why they have those problems, is BIOS updates related?

 

If you're referring to M6700+M6800 + Pascal having issues, it is some kind of conflict between the dGPU vBIOS and the machine's BIOS ACPI implementation.  M6700 will hard-lock before getting to OS boot.  M6800 will BSOD during Windows boot, no matter what (but boot Linux OK).  Both can be worked around by installing an early engineering sample vBIOS that doesn't have the problem, but there are only a few cards that those have been found for (all of them Quadro).

 

Strangely, Turing GPUs don't have this issue and work fine, it is specific to Pascal only.

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3 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

If you're referring to M6700+M6800 + Pascal having issues, it is some kind of conflict between the dGPU vBIOS and the machine's BIOS ACPI implementation.  M6700 will hard-lock before getting to OS boot.  M6800 will BSOD during Windows boot, no matter what (but boot Linux OK).  Both can be worked around by installing an early engineering sample vBIOS that doesn't have the problem, but there are only a few cards that those have been found for (all of them Quadro).

 

Strangely, Turing GPUs don't have this issue and work fine, it is specific to Pascal only.

Oh boy, feels unlucky for me, I have an m6700 with linux and a 980m dying hahahaha

Found a RX 480 in ebay, guess I'll go that way

Ty very much ❤️

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