razor0601 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Did someone try to install this card in an Optimus Laptop? On the old NBR there was a Thread that the Tesla M6 works in Precision M6700 and M6800. Maybe also the P6 could work? Clevo N960KP, I5-11400, RTX 3060 140w TGP, Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe SSD, Samsung 870 EVO 4TB SATA SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj92 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 2:06 PM, razor0601 said: Did someone try to install this card in an Optimus Laptop? On the old NBR there was a Thread that the Tesla M6 works in Precision M6700 and M6800. Maybe also the P6 could work? Someone told me they got Tesla P6 working in M17xR3 in Optimus Mode so should work Alienware m18 : Intel Core i9 13900HX | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080 | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ Alienware X14 R1 : Intel Core i7 12700H 12th-Gen | nVidia GeForce RTX 3060 | AX411 | SK Hynix 2TB PCIe4 Alienware M18x R2 : Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO Clevo X170SM-G: Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (880m SLI) | 18 R1 (RTX 3000) CS Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CSStudiosYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antagram Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Hi! If it works with Optimus mode, does it mean that it works in lvds display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxware79 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I had zero luck getting an M6 to work in an Optimus Alienware 17 R1. The system would not detect the card at all. Maybe I got a dud card. Alienware Aurora R15 - i9-13900KF - RTX 4090 - 32GB DDR5 Alienware M18x R2 - i7-3920XM - GTX 970M - 16GB 1866Mhz DDR3L - Samsung 970 Evo with MXM to NVMe Adapter - Custom Delft Blue Alienware X51 - i7-3770 - NO GPU - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware M17x R3 - i7-2760QM - GTX 580M - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Area 51 ALX - i7-975 Extreme - GTX 980 - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Aurora R2 - i7-3770K - GTX 670FTW - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Aurora R4 ALX - i7-3930K - GTX 1060 - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Aurora R4 ALX - i7-3930K - GTX 670FTW - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antagram Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Maxware79 said: I had zero luck getting an M6 to work in an Optimus Alienware 17 R1. The system would not detect the card at all. Maybe I got a dud card. Seems weird, I saw a M6 working with the M6700 (similar to M17X R4) and M6800 (same with 17 R1) on youtube. I think M6800 usually came with LVDS, but in 17 R1 idk, maybe it's eDP and that's giving you issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor0601 Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 1:50 AM, ssj92 said: Someone told me they got Tesla P6 working in M17xR3 in Optimus Mode so should work Link to that? Clevo N960KP, I5-11400, RTX 3060 140w TGP, Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe SSD, Samsung 870 EVO 4TB SATA SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxware79 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 9:04 PM, Antagram said: Seems weird, I saw a M6 working with the M6700 (similar to M17X R4) and M6800 (same with 17 R1) on youtube. I think M6800 usually came with LVDS, but in 17 R1 idk, maybe it's eDP and that's giving you issues? The Optimus 17 R1 is LVDS and the 120hz 3D model is eDP. I tried it in the LVDS option. I had seen it working in the M6800 and I even messaged a guy on ebay who was selling a 6800 with one installed but he wouldn't tell me exactly how he got it working. All he said was that he flashed a quadro vBIOS on it. It has no video out so I was assuming this is why the system wouldn't detect it as a regular display adapter. I couldn't flash a vBIOS since the system wouldn't detect it and I didn't have a programmer. Alienware Aurora R15 - i9-13900KF - RTX 4090 - 32GB DDR5 Alienware M18x R2 - i7-3920XM - GTX 970M - 16GB 1866Mhz DDR3L - Samsung 970 Evo with MXM to NVMe Adapter - Custom Delft Blue Alienware X51 - i7-3770 - NO GPU - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware M17x R3 - i7-2760QM - GTX 580M - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Area 51 ALX - i7-975 Extreme - GTX 980 - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Aurora R2 - i7-3770K - GTX 670FTW - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Aurora R4 ALX - i7-3930K - GTX 1060 - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Alienware Aurora R4 ALX - i7-3930K - GTX 670FTW - 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antagram Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Maxware79 said: The Optimus 17 R1 is LVDS and the 120hz 3D model is eDP. I tried it in the LVDS option. I had seen it working in the M6800 and I even messaged a guy on ebay who was selling a 6800 with one installed but he wouldn't tell me exactly how he got it working. All he said was that he flashed a quadro vBIOS on it. It has no video out so I was assuming this is why the system wouldn't detect it as a regular display adapter. I couldn't flash a vBIOS since the system wouldn't detect it and I didn't have a programmer. I see, that's really unfortunate -.-' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj92 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 5:11 AM, razor0601 said: Link to that? There's no link. The guy selling all the older alienwares on eBay with upgraded graphics told me. He has M17xR3 for sale with RX 560 as well. Alienware m18 : Intel Core i9 13900HX | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080 | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ Alienware X14 R1 : Intel Core i7 12700H 12th-Gen | nVidia GeForce RTX 3060 | AX411 | SK Hynix 2TB PCIe4 Alienware M18x R2 : Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO Clevo X170SM-G: Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (880m SLI) | 18 R1 (RTX 3000) CS Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CSStudiosYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 6:34 AM, Antagram said: Seems weird, I saw a M6 working with the M6700 (similar to M17X R4) and M6800 (same with 17 R1) on youtube. I think M6800 usually came with LVDS, but in 17 R1 idk, maybe it's eDP and that's giving you issues? M6800 transitioned from LVDS to eDP during its life; early systems had LVDS and later systems had eDP (there are two different versions of the motherboard). I think it wouldn't matter for purposes of trying to use a Tesla card. Those cards have no direct display output, so you'd have to run with Optimus on regardless of which type of display panel you have. With Optimus on, the dGPU wouldn't be talking to the display panel at all, so LVDS/eDP "shouldn't" matter. There were indeed multiple success stories with Tesla M6 in Precision M6700 + M6800. I never saw someone try P6. At least on the Precision side, M6700+M6800 have vBIOS issues with Pascal cards causing boot crashes, so I would not expect it to work. Dell Precision 7770 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Dell) — Dell Precision key posts • Dell driver RSS feeds • Dell Fan Management — override fan behavior Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10 LTSC Spoiler Dell Precision 7770 (personal) Intel Core i9-12950HX ("Alder Lake"), 8P+8E 8× P cores ("Golden Cove"): 2.3 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading 8× E cores ("Gracemont"): 1.7 GHz base, 3.6 GHz turbo 128GB DDR5-3600 (CAMM) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 16GB (DGFF) Storage: 2TB system drive: Samsung 980 Pro, PCIe4 24TB additional storage: MDRAID, RAID 0 2× 8TB Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus, PCIe4 1× 8TB Inland Performance Plus, PCIe4 Kubuntu 23.04 (KDE Plasma 5.27, Linux kernel 6.2) 17.3" 3940×2160 120 Hz display Intel Wi-Fi AX211 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth) 93Wh battery IR webcam Fingerprint reader Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth) 95Wh battery IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antagram Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Aaron44126 said: M6800 transitioned from LVDS to eDP during its life; early systems had LVDS and later systems had eDP (there are two different versions of the motherboard). I think it wouldn't matter for purposes of trying to use a Tesla card. Those cards have no direct display output, so you'd have to run with Optimus on regardless of which type of display panel you have. With Optimus on, the dGPU wouldn't be talking to the display panel at all, so LVDS/eDP "shouldn't" matter. There were indeed multiple success stories with Tesla M6 in Precision M6700 + M6800. I never saw someone try P6. At least on the Precision side, M6700+M6800 have vBIOS issues with Pascal cards causing boot crashes, so I would not expect it to work. I understand, and why they have those problems, is BIOS updates related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Antagram said: I understand, and why they have those problems, is BIOS updates related? If you're referring to M6700+M6800 + Pascal having issues, it is some kind of conflict between the dGPU vBIOS and the machine's BIOS ACPI implementation. M6700 will hard-lock before getting to OS boot. M6800 will BSOD during Windows boot, no matter what (but boot Linux OK). Both can be worked around by installing an early engineering sample vBIOS that doesn't have the problem, but there are only a few cards that those have been found for (all of them Quadro). Strangely, Turing GPUs don't have this issue and work fine, it is specific to Pascal only. Dell Precision 7770 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Dell) — Dell Precision key posts • Dell driver RSS feeds • Dell Fan Management — override fan behavior Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10 LTSC Spoiler Dell Precision 7770 (personal) Intel Core i9-12950HX ("Alder Lake"), 8P+8E 8× P cores ("Golden Cove"): 2.3 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading 8× E cores ("Gracemont"): 1.7 GHz base, 3.6 GHz turbo 128GB DDR5-3600 (CAMM) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 16GB (DGFF) Storage: 2TB system drive: Samsung 980 Pro, PCIe4 24TB additional storage: MDRAID, RAID 0 2× 8TB Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus, PCIe4 1× 8TB Inland Performance Plus, PCIe4 Kubuntu 23.04 (KDE Plasma 5.27, Linux kernel 6.2) 17.3" 3940×2160 120 Hz display Intel Wi-Fi AX211 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth) 93Wh battery IR webcam Fingerprint reader Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth) 95Wh battery IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antagram Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Aaron44126 said: If you're referring to M6700+M6800 + Pascal having issues, it is some kind of conflict between the dGPU vBIOS and the machine's BIOS ACPI implementation. M6700 will hard-lock before getting to OS boot. M6800 will BSOD during Windows boot, no matter what (but boot Linux OK). Both can be worked around by installing an early engineering sample vBIOS that doesn't have the problem, but there are only a few cards that those have been found for (all of them Quadro). Strangely, Turing GPUs don't have this issue and work fine, it is specific to Pascal only. Oh boy, feels unlucky for me, I have an m6700 with linux and a 980m dying hahahaha Found a RX 480 in ebay, guess I'll go that way Ty very much ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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