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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Do you happen to have the pinout for the DVD port, will be adding the lines for 2nd fan if the JST splitter option off the CPU fan port doesnt give the correct results (although i read the CPU fan port could take more load) Interesting on your CPU-z screen there, my VKLO gave full details, the fakey DIMISION HyperX give nothing in the timings table in ver 2.15 updated to 2.16 and get more details, . Memtest verifies as 1600's though. I think your temps are fine due to sheer copper mass and surface area. I reccomend getting the 8770W heatsink so you can cool via the chips and xbracket though. Seen those on Ali. That would mean the copper plate you can just use a heatpipe to route to your second fan to exhaust out the DVD bay like @GuitarG has.- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Seeing as I have some VKLO sticks I know are at 1600. I’m tempted to see if I can push these hokey hyperx to 1866 or 2133 via clocking. Wouldn’t have been so bad if they actually ran 1866 but were fake. Yeah checking codes made me think they were good with a bad sticker, I see others have pushed to faster (assume they are proper hyperx sticks). Any programs you would recommend as i don’t recall any bios settings for OC? just to prove/disprove my theory. I’ve found on ebay in my country an apparent genuine set. But they have black chips not white like yours @Vladka76- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Yep, i got stung for that too. 4x 8gb sticks "DIMISION" not great. branded 1866, clock runs them at 798, so 1600's reclothed with a fancy sticker. Micron chips but three benchtest apps report as 1600. They dont report all detail in CPUz either.... Damn....- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
The fan was the Sunon one, got it from aliexpress, identical to OEM, same cable colour too. Old one was tired and bearings were noisy so made sense when i pulled the CPU out for upgrade to replace. That’s where i sourced the JST splitter to try and drive two fans from CPU fan point. Ah not on TikTok, but will try to check it out. Nice work. Wondering if we need a sticky in the forum for Card X works with Y driver on Z device type matrix. Reason i asked is you put 750Ti driver on it, i expected it to throw an error.- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
I have both the 65w and the 200w psu bricks, both seem ok with my i7-3940xm and k1000m running stock heatsink. I run PTM 7950 and artic mx4 mix temps seem steady. I may try more fancy compound in due course when I pull it apart again. The k2200 I think is the 965m equivalent so a 55w card. You’re probably pushing the limits of the “A” type heatsink. I replaced the fan when I did cpu upgrade and tried the 965m (which failed) cool you got drivers sorted, odd that you can throw a 750ti driver at it and it works. Did yours work without any drivers first time when you plugged it in?- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
welcome Erik, Good to see your upgrading, K2200M i think is the Quadro version of my 965M i tried to install, so its a good upgrade step. Im interested to hear your VBios was dell but subvendor was HP as whilst it works (assume standard windows drivers) picked it up ahead of NVidia drivers. i think when someone managed to get the 965M running (post on reddit) they had to use certain drivers. How did you get win11 on there, i thought TPM 1.2 stops the install? Great that you have as i think 11 is more tuned than 10 however not sure on drivers and standard compatibility.- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
re: cooling, try PTM 7950, its had good results in our machines. I run it with Arctic MX-4 and get 50c CPU and 38c GPU at idle circa 75/45 at full chat for CPU and GPU respectively for 3940Xm and a k1000m.- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - Help to failed MXM upgrade
Daedalus replied to CaptainsWorkspace's topic in Components & Upgrades
Hello. Managed to get the infernal ZIF clip fixed with some superglue and back in business. Never got the 965M card to work so returned it. I heard good things on m2200 card on other posts but seems your hitting similar issues as me. I was looking to buy the eeprom thing as I understood it to be a vbios issue I was hitting. M2200 is the quadro version of the gtx 965m, so intruiged why you hit the issue. I hear dell vbios seems to yield better results -
HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Thanks for the response. I was kinda hoping to resolve without programmer hence looking at what Vbios were viable.As you advise Dell Vbios seems to be a logical choice. I do have decent soldering skills (triple USB/heatsink & linux mod to O2 Joggler (Intel Atom core)). I managed to contact the chap who made the reddit post that started this misadventure (anthonyBF2) he also advised no vbios was changed when he installed. Just the INF mod, so this seems to align with your path of using Dell VBios so thats reassuring. no issue buying a selection of cards (m2200/965M/980M) to play with as this is the long slog on this machine. 🙂 TBH even having 3 GPU card selection, getting display output is priority then comes the mad scientist Heatsink mods (ex-engineer 😉 so have mill & lathe access 🙂- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Yeah that was where my head was going with newer tech but keeping elitebook shell. I was trying to keep within elitebook family hence looking at g9/g10 or newer. that’s understandable with your health challenges, save your energy good sir. I was merely looking to pick your brains on what GPU vbios worked with what, been scouring the NBF archives which show a lot of 8770 work but not as much 8570w but do seem to call out the 8570 is more restrictive (but not sure why if it runs same SBios) I seem to recall you tried the 965/980m early on in this saga, did they work with standard HP vbios or dell? I can order either, however recent adventure resulted in no output on 8570w with a 956m (assumed hp vbios) on vga or display, however I saw a post where some card output to display port but not others until correct drivers / inf mod done. So maybe that’s what I was experiencing as I didn’t have the DP cable to output to.- 267 replies
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HP EliteBook 8570W – Still Worth It? Upgrade Advice
Daedalus replied to dhoni4455's topic in Custom Builds
just seen the post. Running an 8750W - i7-3940Xm / 32gb@1866mz / 1Tb HDD / 1TB Msata / k1000M GPU. Been working on GPU upgrades recently with some success (k2000M / failiures (965M). also upgrading heatsink assembly to improve cooling. would like to upgrade screen to DC -
HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Thanks for the detail. Yup without vbios programmer I’m kinda limited. M2000m seems to be a sensible path for out the box-ish that said, which vbios are viable if I can track a 965m with dell or hp vbios? I’d like to still try the 965m path to max the “A” path. Working on a double pipe “A” heatsink at moment. im still a bit confused as if bios .71 on 8570&8770 is the same (currently updated bios to .71), therefore what restricts POsT/boot display in a 8570. If say an 980m in a 8770w works then by same logic it should be fine in 8570? That said we can rule out bios as being factor for boot hiccup. So vbios is the challenge, what brand and what version? I can buy a ch314a programmer but still stuck if I don’t have vbios images unique to dell/hp. Only version I do have is from nvidia site so a vanilla version unless it asks target machine upon install? I may have stumbled on a Clevo 965M on ebay, so im on the fence whether i go for that. are Clevo Vbios viable to work on the 8570W's?- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Thanks for the update. Bios was .71 (final release from Hp) tried in both uefi with and without csm modes in bios. No joy no output (no bios boot display or win loading, just black) Previous post elsewhere on Reddit mentions legacy mode results in non boot So with that in mind maybe card has wrong vbios. As you mentioned dell vbios seems to work with our machines but no way of verifying what vbios this 965m has. So maybe this doesn’t have HP or Dell vbios. so if bios versions are same on 8570/8770 it has to be card. i don’t possess a ch314a bios programmer to redo the vbios so im stuck. I’ve triggered a return to seller, will continue to hunt a suitable card. A shame as it was only Type A seller I found in a while. Also seen an 8770w heatsink I will continue to build a type B card option for the 8570. id be happy to send a card to you guys to flash the right vbios. That said i'm not quite sure a service centre would entertain such work 😉 I'd happily pay you guys for the work- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
Daedalus replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Just been scrolling through the old NBR archives and noticed a few familiar renegades 😉 http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/8770w-compatible-video-cards.795753/page-2 question with my 965m headache is why 8770w had a lot more “working” cards. It seems bios / vbios options weren’t as bad on the bigger brother 8770? can anyone shed any light why the 965m wouldn’t/ work on the 8570w? Or even a 950m which is type A, at this point I’m happy to try wedging the 970/980m in, but would like to know what bios/vbios mods are needed. 965m was a proper rare beast to track down, whereas 970/980 are a lot more plentiful- 267 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - Help to failed MXM upgrade
Daedalus replied to CaptainsWorkspace's topic in Components & Upgrades
Did you manage to resolve this? Just been updating my 8570W with a 965M Type A card, also has no output on screen or on a VGA cable / monitor. As far as im aware it is N16E-GR-A1 which should work with HP, Zbook, dell 7710 etc. so i dont think its a bad card. But would appreciate insight. just to add, swapped back the k1000m (but broke a ribbon cable clip in process(do they even sell these clips separate?) and the laptop fires back into life and works fine. Edit: spoke too soon machine works for about 5-10mins, using GPU-z and hwinfo, temps are good 55-65 and 37 for cpu and GPU. Then fan goes full and machine locks up. Will try a repaste