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  1. Daedalus
    Nice work. Did you manage to upgrade the GPU any further in your 8770w? I know @GuitarG in this forum has been trying many gtx and etc cards in his 8570w. I’m curious if there needs to be any custom vbios to make them work in the elitebooks? My 965m install failed at post, so now looking at 980m, I noticed you tried the m3000 with options for the m5000.
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    Yep, I’d previously tried the 965m "A" in my 8570w (i7-3940xm bios.71), but it never passed POST, however someone has managed to get a 965m working. I notice there are only two vbios for it on techpowerup. Wonder if it was due to GM204 in the vs GM206 in the 965m that I had the issue?
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    Thanks @panda_zzz for the correction. Interesting @erikmiskolin that you have a HP GPU board but dell vbios and it worked (until recently) are the dell vbios .rom more compatible than HP for our needs? maybe worth adding a sticky post somewhere on this forum for known working rom versions and card combo’s
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    Is the m2000m/m2200m which I think is the quadro equivalent of gtx 965m (correct me if I’m wrong) I had the no-post with my 965m card, suspected wrong vbios so no boot, didn’t even get the “enter bios” or hp logo displayed. so your not alone with the issues with the 8570w playing nice with cards. that said, guys on here have put 980m amongst other cards with a truckload of fettling and an 8770w heatsink. As I plan to run a 980m KBX very kindly did an image of his vbios, so we have a proven working 980m/8570w i think the best card we can throw in on a “normal screen” 8570w is a 1060m/980m (requires heatsink mod) if we exclude guitarg’s awesome work. That is in a different league
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    Just to add, on the heatsink adventure. Stumbled across this gem for the “A” heatsink but could be utilised on our hybrid solutions Heatsink heat pipe bridging in short it’s bonding the cpu and GPU pipes together. Appears to gain a 5 degree drop
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    Finally finished prepping the 980M sink from the mXM “B” part of the 8770w sink. Now gotta cook the 8570w sink to remove the old “A” sink. Heatpipes took ages to wiggle free with the heatgun, will reattach with lower melting point solder
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    I’ll have to try that and see if less sticks pushes the C value up. Using memtest and other programs reports 1600 when they are “meant” to be 1866, but as called out earlier in chat the “fakey” hyperx underperform. well done if you got the genuine 2133 stuff I’ve been hunting for a while, only seen the odd stick of 1866
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    Thanks for the response, Hoping for a speedy recovery for you. Think i found Boardview you describe. HP EliteBook 8560W VANHALEN HR HPB MV MB1 V2 Boardview File - Lab-One Forum i'll take a look. ive got a JST 4 pin splitter set to get wires across the Mobo from JST CPU source. One question i do have is, as you describe wiring the "before coil" doesnt that just equate to post the JST plug / wire as it hits the fan circuit board (not challenging the process, just trying to look at it modularly. I ask as i can pop the little JST wires out to "remove" +5v etc wires from the circuit to add them from DVD edge. so its just the PWM sense that comes across via JST cable solution. also the JST is 4 wire from CPU fan, am i missing something? On the fan PCB its 1,2,3,5 with pad 4 vacant on sunon PCB (hence my confusion) With only the "one wire" PWM source (PIN2) coming to secondary fan, there wont be any tacho feed back to JST header either so in essence no feedback to mobo #FAN2 is xRPM (TBH i dont recall if HWmonitor even shows CPU RPM) So just +5V and GND to find sources (my jerry-rig USB feed would work to test as fan wont pull in excess of 500Ma whilst i give the DVD port a manicure 😄 EDIT: also not sure why but im getting some of the pictures not viewable in you region (which is a PITA)
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    thanks for the response. yeah i know there are similar cards. i think another user put a p5200 in his machine, which would be 16GB card, but he had alot of issues getting there. i dont mind the cost aspect, its more what the card could be capable of. Heck the old clunky its in HP8570W is oooold. but fun to tinker with. 980m seem fairly plentiful at present. with the LVDS screen in my machine im limited on what cards i can put in without going to dreamcolour screen and extras. so 980M is final maxwell card, i think final pascal card i can run is 1060m but thats 6gb max, its more what works with machine than whats out there with an MXM edge connector.
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    Hey @GuitarG can you share the pinout for the JST lead? or which pins you picked up +5v & gnd in the machine? I was thinking using USB port to feed (probably a bad idea) I now have a JST GH Extender and another JST GH splitter and a "spare" 8570W heatsink to graft onto my 8770 "MXM-B" plate and sit secondary fan in DVD bay. One thing ive been looking for is the Tach and speed pinout for the Sunon fans we have in HP kit, Datasheets seem to be difficult to find even when i have the part number. Finally got a response back from HP re: CPU fan header, they confirmed my theory and advise not running dual fans of that jst cpu socket, only fan control and tach, but run the 5v feed elsewhere (assume USB +ve rail or DVD pin) so only two pins go to header. Can anyone share what DVD pin I pickup from or where it should be soldered to? That said i found a guy on reddit had an HP pavillion, just soldered one fan onto the primary so "piggyback" on all four pins and it worked, wasnt sure how much of a limit we have on the 8570W to allow this Update: Taking Google AI with a pinch of salt, gives the detail below fan models MF60150V1-C001-S9A and MF60150V1-C000-S9A Based on standard 4-pin PWM laptop fan configurations, the pinout for these models is: Black: Ground (GND) Red: +5V DC Power Yellow/Green: Tachometer (Sensor/Signal) Blue: PWM Control (Speed Control) Sunon have the horrid other colours, but really just looking for verification the detail is correct from you guys, Thanks in advance.
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    Do you have any pictures of the deletion? Just how much “artistic flare” is needed on the DVD port? I’ve now got an HP vbios 980M enroute (965M was a bust) so a few steps behind you. Got my 8770w H/sink chopped just off the branch ready to fit, so at least at first install I can sink and see if I get video output. was your 980m a custom vbios? I know speaking to KBX he had an 980M HP card with a Msi vbios he’d got installed from china hence the ask.
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    Hi All, Did anyone manage the 980M VRAM mod? i've got a 980M in my machine and im curious if its possible to be done or if there are any restrictions, sounds like its a simple reflow? (not that its simple) but if Vbios isnt a blocker surely we could go for a 12gb or 16gb unit? I know there is a market for the desktop cards being upgraded. but not seen much noise on the MXM units.
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    Afternoon all. On the search for 980M i found this piece of work 970M / 980M chip upgrade Looks like someone was mad enough to swap Samsung and Hynix chips. which intruiges me if 970 or 980 could address higher VRAM capacity. i know the newer boards they seem to be having RAM upgrades on them so curious if its viable. does anyone know if the 1060 would work out the box in the 8570w? I know the 980m is higher vram capacity 8gb vs the 1060m being 4gb/6gb, checking specs and results the 1060 seems marginal gains and a vram loss in size.
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    You only need the MXM Portion of the 8770W heatsink as i believe the CPU fan cowl is too large to fit in 8570W (correct me if im wrong) so your using the dual pipes of the 8570W but the single pipe from GPU lands on the MXM "B" sink, ou could get a second shorter pipe to sit across fan cowl and "B" plate to dual, maybe run a third pipe from B to a second fan out DVD bay, ive seen some 8440P style sinks browsing HP parts bin that might flip over to work that way and give a fin section right by DVD bay door plastic. Finally resolved my bad 965m Saga, now on the hunt for either a 980M or a 1060M as i have the "standard" screen i cant go further (Yet 😉 )
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    Do you happen to have the pinout for the DVD port, will be adding the lines for 2nd fan if the JST splitter option off the CPU fan port doesnt give the correct results (although i read the CPU fan port could take more load) Interesting on your CPU-z screen there, my VKLO gave full details, the fakey DIMISION HyperX give nothing in the timings table in ver 2.15 updated to 2.16 and get more details, . Memtest verifies as 1600's though. I think your temps are fine due to sheer copper mass and surface area. I reccomend getting the 8770W heatsink so you can cool via the chips and xbracket though. Seen those on Ali. That would mean the copper plate you can just use a heatpipe to route to your second fan to exhaust out the DVD bay like @GuitarG has.
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