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  1. Daedalus
    That is all valid, i know other users have pushed the mobo to its limits running the hungry cards and limited the mobo longevity. Does anyone know the sensible limit they were designed for? I am running a 200w PSU as the 75W unit was getting toasty. So i have headroom, but 200w into a mobo and DC jack not designed might fail elsewhere. 980M as you say might be doable (with H'sink from 8770 and DVD port mod / select bay delete) trying to source the micro JST cables for fan splitter is proving fun as they seem too big a connector) Anyone know their name?. The Type "A" journey ends at 965M it seems as i dont have DC screen and scouring Ebay etc, only finds a type B 965M card (which i dont think will fit the 8570W without clipping the DVD port. 980M's seem more plentiful. The only 965m "A" card i found on Ali was N16E-GR-A1 Did you have any issues with your 980 clevo card? i see some list HP/Dell/Clevo etc so its difficult to identify correct card part number to get hold of. do you have a part number sticker or N16 chip marker in the 980?
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    That is helpful, not yet at the crazy modding MXM boards yet. I noticed there was a 980M board earlier in the thread that additional 220nf caps and FETs were added to improve. whilst 980M i think (please correct if wrong) is final incarnation of the 900 series maxwell board at 8GB, so odd they leave unpopulated, that said its an MXM B so might be reused in the 10 series before the card design went all weird. I'm comfortable soldering those on (dont have hot-air station) but couldnt see orientation in picture (didnt want to solder a cap backwards and wonder why card wont work). Ideally for me id like to minimise the Vbios work and fingers crossed its just new Nvidia drivers loaded with H'sink mods to make a card work in my 8570w Looking at Mobile PCI Express Module - Wikipedia itwould appear the mighty RTX 4050/4060 (lovelace generation) is the final "type A" to be able to fit and use the standard H'sink in the 8570W. However i suspect drivers & Vbios might scupper that
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    Thanks for the response. indeed, im sure the t1000 isnt far off the older 965M and will use the same heatsink size. (happy to go "big" if it enables more card options (albeit with more risk of working). I see the newer 1070/1060 cards are options but are newer generation and give MXM-Type A capability. That said more work to enable (comparable to 980M "big". Happy to heatsink mod (ex-Engineer 😉 ) I think for me the less "driver mod" options which will probably push me to 965M/980M anyways. I notice alot of the MXM "B" boards have unpopulated sockets/solder locations for stuff like RAM and caps / fets etc. why is that? For the 980M was there a specific part / serial number board that worked?
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    i think the HP 8750W is limited by standard LVDS screen to use 980M max, anything newer seems to push the need to fit the DC screen or swapping in a new screen from a newer model. i saw the T1000 in the Wiki however whilst a newer card, doesnt seem to have decent resolution output. Is the t1000 actually a more powerful card though, specs seem to say 980 is more gutsy. whilst im still on the fence on best card to get (not ordered the card yet) still keen to take recommendations from your good selves.
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    Which CPU generation was your 2012 laptop? Just curious if the Turing Gen GPU cards are matched to certain CPU generations. Therfore assume the MXM port isnt a limitation if you can then run Maxwell (original) then Pascal & Turing. I'd love to try a Turing Card in the 8750W however the later cards i think are bigger than the 965/980M's footprint and also i think the LVDS "normal screen" will only run 980 at best. Found this wiki if of use. Mobile PCI Express Module - Wikipedia
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    Thanks for clarifying, so it would be a 3pin JST rather than a 4 pin to replicate (red/black/yellow) to secondary fan then. Sorry for all questions, just looking to ensure i order correct part and then lose the 4th wire.
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    on the 980M card, The photo isnt clear, what is the orientation of the 220nF (assume 16v range also) and the mosfets. I'm ordering both just dont want to solder on upside down. is the hot air station necesary if you have relatively fine solder point and good hands?
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    Has anyone got the DVD pinouts for the 5v rail for a second fan or would the current solution to run a JST "y" lead and connect into current CPU fan so both run (however how will both Tacho?) plus theres also the question on how much amps that line can take. Albeit academic when were dropping 100W+ GPU boards in......
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    Did anyone have any success in getting the Pascal generation working stable? I see the best Maxwell for the 8750W is probably 965M "A" with the standard heatsink or 980M "B" with the 8770W sink. Can the architecture run on LVDS screens anything newer? Plan to order the 980 most likely.
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    Thanks for the confirmation, its now on the list to hunt down. 3940XM going in this weekend with PTM7950 medium. How much rework was the RTX5000? i assume alot more than the 965M install, if i recall the RTX is a Type B MXM card? Therfore would need the 8770W heatsink
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    yeah i see it now, my bad. As ive got 4 sticks of 8Gb its maxed but will keep an eye out for whichever turns up. i hadnt seen anyone confirm 2133 as working in the 8750W, were beyond normal use so its uncharted territory 😉
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    I've heard that there are 2166Mhz DDR3 modules available but yet to find any. Is 1866 the best the 8750 can run or is it worth searching for the 2166 DDR3?
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    apologies for many questions. the 965M is available in Type A, however the 980M is a Type B (dont think it ever existed as type A) so therfore is a longer card. How did you solve the issue where the card overhung the DVD port? Type A just about sits in the space left by the original quadro card. TBH its no biggie if i lose DVD player as i can get a "spare drivebay insert and gut the internals for a secondary fan and GPU sink, will probably get a JST splitter to run the fan from the CPU fan port as i cant seem to locate another fan port socket on the 8570w.
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    ah, would have been good to know before i threw in 4 sticks of PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600Mhz 😄 Its maxed at memory limit, just not running at max memspeed. The hyperX 1866Mhz stuff is the fastest stuff out there so i'll get that once i sort the CPU upgrade and get all the heatsinks & heatpipes for the GPU upgrade. I've ordered the PTM7950 for the CPU work will probably go for the 40x80mm sheet so should have enough for GPU pads too if i use the 8770W heatsink. Question for those that have trodden the path of GPU upgrade. comparing 965M to the 980M, it seems like 980 wins on paper. within reasonable budget what is the best card to fit (aliexpress seems to have many many geforce MXM boards), based on drivers working (without need to reflash Vbios etc to see the 8570W)?
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    Thanks for the response. Re: Thermal Management, would you reccommend the PTM over something like Artic MX-6? happy to get either for the CPU swap, just thought to ask. I know the heatsink and CPU are very close and the TPM might run to end of screws if the thicker stuff ive seen when looking to order. Re: GPU Upgrade - 965 / 980 i think are sensible upgrades, dont get me wrong i'd love to go P5000 and enjoy 16gb Vram, but alot of work. I think i have the standard screen (although im not sure where id check as its not called out in device manager or system information) details show the K1000M fitted. Which GPU cooler fits them? i assume the 8770W plate as the 8570W plate looks to be too small for the components to be covered and cooled.
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