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Hi, I hope its fine to post and follow-up on this thread about my Eurocom Sky x7c, based on Clevo P775TM1-G. It covers similar issues about tackling thermalling with this chassis coupled with an i9-9900K and RTX 2080 (Mobile) as reported initially by @MiRaGe. In my case the CPU was delided and a vacuum chamber was used in place of the IHS, and liquid metal was applied to both CPU and GPU. The last application is 2 years old, the copper vacuum chamber, unified cooler, CPU and GPU surfaces were all LM treated a coupe prior to last application. All four slots are used (dual channel), 64Gb total, with 4 x 16Gb Kingston Technology HyperX Impact 2666MHz DDR4 CL15 . This could be optimised as needed. After a fresh install of Windows 11 24H2 4Bit Pro, optimized with Atlas-OS 0.41, I am reconsidering the hardware and software configurations and the high cpu and gpu temperatures. I ditched Intel XPU and started to learn to use Throttlestop 9.6 (TS 9.6) to mitigate thermaling and power issues when using my system under heavy CPU and GPU load. An initial TS 9.6 setting gave a package power of 138.4W CPU Core offset voltage -110mV, CPU Cache offset Voltage of -80mV, reaching Thermal EDP and L1 Limits on CPU with TS 9. bench. With this initial TS 9.6 undervolted Settings, Time Spy score was 10 039 (Graphics 10 075 (average temp 69c), CPU 9842 (average temp 98c)), with max fan speed, on a cooling tray and bottom covered removed - ambient temp ~23c near the air intake. Test results: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/120452444 My concerns are that under heavy load (virtual reality applications) temperatures are maxing out (TjMax, GPU high temp): CPU cores temp ranges 85-99c, PCH temp can go above 5c, and GPU temp 87c, temp-hotspot 100-103c, which is seems too high, are sustained during the whole session of 2-3h nonstop, sometimes several times a day. I would rather lower temps and power limit for a stead and cooer operation reather than max perfrmance with thermal and power throttling, which also risk to age my trusty mobile VR sstem. Questions to help me getting started: 1) Are the temperatures above reasonable to run run long and sustained heavy load sessions? Is the GPU T-hotspot above min 100c reasonable? Any sugestions of ballpark values for efficient undervoting with TS 9.6 and also power limiting the gpu with Afterburner? 2) In an old thread on NotebookReview I was discussing the i9-9900 cpu and PCH high temperature with @jc_denton and others. He was able to lower the temperature by 5-7c with 4mm thermal pad on a p870. It is not clear to me where the PCH chip is (under the mouse pad?) and how it can be accessed and how to carry out a modification, since here is no heat spreader for the PCH in the P775TM1. Did someone do this modification and has a picture to share? 3) The TS 9.6 bench test returns these 16 Max core temperatures (in C): 95, 95, 100, 100, 98, 98, 99, 99, 99, 99, 98, 98, 96, 96, 89, 89. Most are within 5c of each other but the last two of the 16 cores are 11c from max core/TJmax temp. a) Is it a sign that the unified cooler is warped or thermal pad contacts are not optimal? b) The i9-9900k cpu was not sanded /lapped, similarly would it be worth removing 0.3-0.4mm to improve thermal heat transfer and contacts? -or- c) a fresh LM and new pads are required? 4) I was provided with Bios and EC fie to update my systems from Eurocom four years ago. The software upgrade failed and couldn't be applied. Would Bios updates would be warranted and hep better manage this system? The current system: Intel (R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.6GHz ME FW Version 11.8.5.3606 MB Series: Sky X7C Bios Version: 1.07.2REU4 KBC/EC Firmware Revision: 1.0.16 VGA Card: NV GeForce RTX 2080 VBIOS Revision: 90.04.3B.00.7A VBIOS Build Date: 12/04/18 Thank you for your help and suggestions to get me started.

I have been careful for the most part with protecting the keyoard. The ribbon cables were checked and option to clean-up as suggested before. It seems slighly better when I first start my PC. So it might be subj6to temperature, but at first I suspected it to be better before having a browser running with lots of tabs or apps running. Very subjective. @srs2236 parts from https://www.cdrtd.com/for-clevo/ are advertized cheaper pricing than 70euros but mostly out of stoc. Is it a reputabe site for parts? Are they alternate SN for a US (english) keyboard? Here in attachement is a picture of m current keyboard's label P/N: 6-80-P7500-013-3 S/N: 820001526 and from Vendor Sunrex. Two post to secure it, and the back lit LED is not that important to me. I coud use French as a second choice. Another option is to plug in a flat usb keyboard, it won't be much more bulky to carry arround than this chassis and 300W charger for this Eurocom Sky x7c (Cevo P77TM1-G) 🤣.

Some areas are warmer but not too hot to the touch though. I am however concerned about temps overall since my P775TM1-G with i9-9900K with RTX2080 (Mobile) is running hot very quickly under heavy load and max fans, cpu reaching Tj-max=100c and GPU 87c (T-hotspot up to 103c), and the PCH can go higher than 75c. Note the Cpu is delided and direct die cooing and with the GPU liquid meta was applied two years ago. The latter might affect the keyboard from what I gathered. I will ask about mitigating these temps on this thread below as a follow-up from past discussion on the topic:

There is a newer and fully customizable project Fan Control linked below. Fan Control - A highly focused fan controlling software for Windows (version 206) Did anyone tried it for Clevo laptops ? According to the comments in https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/discussions/2160 it looks like a plugin for Clevo could be added using the Obsidian spinoff project by djsubtronic linked below. https://github.com/djsubtronic/ClevoFanControl On a related note, I spaced out earlier and I just realized I misread a previous post by @1610ftw, is the Clevo Fan Control project by djsubtronic what you settled in with? These last two projects by djsubtronic and Rem0o are promising. I particularly like the highly customizable FanControl by Rem0o with the possibility to include a FanControl pluggin to HWInfo, FanControl.HWInfo which is cool. It is currently maintained. I am planning to use it with my Home Theatre PC (i7-7700k, RTX 2080 Grandia GD09B), with the potential to bypass Afterburner profiles and do a more comprehensive fan control. I would like it for my Clevo if it can be configured reliably. Rem0o's FanControl has clear online doc and a great YouTube review / tutorial by JayzTwoCents linked in Rem0o/FanControl.Releases Github page and here before. Everyone NEEDS this FREE piece of software... I can tinker but I'm not a programmer, a wrapper Clevo plugin to FanControl by Rem0o sounds like a good plan. A programmer among us would be up to at least look into it?

Thank you both for looking into it. The UUID commands works for PowerShell on my end and the UUID is matching. A possibility is that it tries to connect to Obsidian server to carry out an initial license check but it cant if the server is down nowadays. For kicks I copied over the FanControl folder from my previous install back in my Documents folder (user shell) it made the warning go away. It did not give access to all the Main modes I used to have and that can be see in the C:\Program Files\FanControl\fantables (Manual, Silent Normal, Silent and Extreme) . It looks like the inactivated FanControl is limited to either EC Automatic and Max Speed. An email was sent to the Obsidian support that gave me the license code ust in case it still works. Out of curiosity I'll try fetching backup of FanControl Registry entries like in ClevoService from my previous system with working registered FanControl since UUID, computer name and user names didn't change. Wil be report back here if it works - a long shot. Time for a new solution as suggested by 1610ftw. It is also not very active and was detected as a threat by antivirus. The XMG & SCHENKER put together a nice looking and comprehensive Control Centre for their Oasis water cooling system displayed in the review during CES 2024 linked below. There might be other solutions around hopefully to interact and pa nice with the P775TM1-G unified cooling of the CPU and GPU.

Thanks for sharing your experience and suggestions. To clarify in your case the D key was registering just sometimes too slowly that it was skipped, especially playing games like Rocket Ligue. In my case it happened suddenly. I suspected interferences at first with Autohotkey since I used it to convert a secondary joystick throttle rotation axis into keystroke for a flight sim. Then, I wondered about a malware or a driver issue since all the keys were working but just slower. I am now wondering if the keyboard uses a controller and the electronics (capacitors?) is fatigue and on its way out. Slow registering keys are from all over the layout of the keyboard. Regarding cleaning the contacts, I have Isopropyl to clean electronics or before apply thermal past or liquid metal on CPU or GPU with coolers. I have use compressed air blower or vacuum cleaner for dust without taking it apart. Do you recommend cleaning them all? 70euro sounds expensive especially since it might not last. I was considering using a slim/compact usb keyboard resting over it in the meantime. I'll look on eBay and Alibaba. Il have to figure out the right part number if it is not clear stated on mine for the P775TM1-G.

Hello @1610ftw Yes, I'll give Clevo Fan Control a try - thanks for the input Did you manage to update your Windows OS and not loose your registration for the Obsidian Fan control? Researching about UUID I am still not clear if it is tied to hardware -or- if a clean install (including deleting all partitions on OS drive) can make my laptop lose its original UUID, which was used when purchasing the Obsidian Fan and Updater licenses for it. It was running Windows 10 Pro originally. Update: The UUID on m current system matches the one I provided Obsidian when using in Powershell the following command: PS C:\Users\Admin> (Get-WmiObject -Class Win32_ComputerSystemProduct).UUID Did anyone run into the same issue provided license code, not recognized after clean OS install and/or main drive upgrade? Is there a way to make Obsidian Fan work as it should a registered software ? Thanks

Hi, I just completed a clean install of Windows 11 24H2 of my Clevo P75TM1-G system, in order to install Atlas-OS 0.41. My keyboard for the last couple of months is acting out. I was hopping the clean instal would resolve the issue, since I suspected a driver issue rather than a hardware issue. All keys are registering but quick keystrokes result in dropped registered keys along the way. I always manage to get the dropped keys to register going back to correct in the text pressing down slower and/or longer. It seems better when I first start my PC or before starting to use m browser... it is very subjective since it quicky becomes a problem. The driver for the keyboard was loaded by Windows upon installation. Is the driver the possible cause of this problem or is it a sign that my keyboard is suffering form a hardware issue? If I had to replace it where can I get a replacement (ideally US-QWERTY, or eventually FR-AZERTY)? Thank you for your help and suggestions

Thanks for the detailed answers and clarifications. 😊 The clean Install went well. I learned a few tricks along the way for quicker restore stage. I did it twice once with the two SSHD drives physically unplugged and the second time I didn't bother fairly confident there was no bad surprise. One setback was my keyboard which is still acting up - I will post a new thread shorty. I see your point and I agreed, I'll be interested in 3080Ti if there are no MXM 4080 MXM that would fit. There are 3080Ti Mobile mentioned online, does it mean the 3080ti MXM is available and would it work for us? The alternative would be to use an adapter to connect an external Graphics card into the MXM motherboard, and a PSU, referenced on another thread. Consolidating the image of a Clevo being more like a portable desktop. 😂

Hello, I did a clean install of Windows 11 24H2 on m P77TM1-G Clevo (Eurocom, with i9-9900, RT 2080, 64Gb) and I am in the process of reinstalling all my programs and data. OBSIDIAN-PC Fan Control 2.4.9 was just re-installed but only shows EC Automatic and Max Speed main Modes - I thought also there was a profile curve. I proceeded to activate it again but it failed. Hopeful it can work from the post above by @1610ftw. The field for UUID is empty and the license I got when I purchased it back in 2019 fails with a pop-up as "Not a valid license, please insert correct license number or contact number or contact support!". There is no support by Obsidian from what I understand. I can boot to my previous Windows install and search the registry to retrieve any settings if that helps. Note that I did not bother reinstalling the Control Station and Updater apps. Any suggestions on what I can do to activate it properly? If it is not possible, is there a better alternative application?

@srs2236 I purchased the Samsung 990 Pro 2Tb without heatsink for 155€, just 5€ difference with the Kingstone C3000. My i9 updated to Win 11 24H2 a few days ago but I will do a clean install to apply Atlas-OS. With two SSDs (Samsung 970 Evo 1Tb and 990 Pro 2Tb) and 2 SSHD mounted as Raid0 stripped Seagate FireCuda 2TB Solid State Hybrid Drives (ST2000LX001 - 1RG174) there a few options now to organize the OS, programs and User data. Is there a value in term of performance to keep the 1Tb 970 Evo SSD for the OS, 2Tb SSD for user and program data or is it better to make use of the new 2Tb 990 Pros SSD for the OS and Programs, 1Tb for users data and extra program data such flight simulator sceneries? During the clean install, will it be sufficient to unplug the D: drive, a Raid0 stripped Seagate FireCuda 2TB Solid State Hybrid Drives into 4Tb, to keep the data safe and recovered and restored later? It contains folder linked with junctions and users data and some Steam programs at the moment. I'd like to use it after the install to move user data into there respecting shells (new Users location) and rebuild steam applications by rebuilding from data already there to reduce the amount to download when rebuilding the libraries. On a side note, I 'd be interested to update Clevo P775TM1-G graphics card from 2080 to 3080 or even 4080. It followed your thread on that subject, it seems still quite expensive. Thank you for your help.

Thanks for the input @srs2236 I noticed that the Gen 3 NVMe SSDs are at the same price as the Gen 4 SSDs. I'll get Gen 4. I had several Samsung SSDs before and liked them, this is why I was drawn to the good reviews of the 990 Pro, but open to other brands. The KC3000 wasn't the top performer in comparative reviews - it is probably close, its basic heatsink is the same size as m.2 so it is compact. The WD Black SN850X 2Tb is supposed to be better than the SN850 according to the different reviews I found (PCMag, Too's ....), but they also gave conflicting conclusions between the other SSDs listed. The SN850 is the cheapest though at 95€ (with 4150 Mb/s instead of 5500 M/s), which was tempting. I have RAID0 with two Seagate FireCuda ST2000LX001 2Tb for my secondary drive, D:. I don't play much with Clocks, my Clevo is used to running VR and I am more concerned with consistent and stable performance and running cool as the P775 cooling is challenged in handling the heat. My system is plugged in so the power cuts are very rare. Your advice against using RAID0 with two NVMe SSDs for casual day to day system. Regarding the heatsink, I noticed from pictures that they overhang on the side by 1 or 2mm more than the m.2 cards. I am concerned that may interfere with their slot locations in the fit in the Clevo Chasis. The primary drive is at the slot near one of the two fans and the space is narrowed down to 22mm on the m.2 connector and the side near the fan (see picture below with SSD 970 EVO Plus in place): The 990Pros is 10€ more than without a heat sink and its width is 24mm. It would just fit in the second slot, which is 24mm wide, and between the two SSD Sata slots (see picture with empty slot). Is there a difference in using either of these slots of the motherboard in the P775TM1-G chassis for my primary OS m2 SSD? Would it be fine to dremel out 1-2mm in the plastic of the first slot option by the fan? Thanks

Hi, I want to take advantage today of sales on 2Tbb SSD NVMe 4th gen during Amazon Prime Day for my Eurocom Sky x7c to upgrade my primary drive with Windows 11 Pro24H2. It will replace a 1Tb Samsung 90 EVO plus which will be a secondary drive or external drive. The first question will the heatsink fit in my chassis? Second, the two NVMe slots are Gen 3 NVMe, aren't they? Will putting Gen 4 SSD be beneficial still or a waste? What is important to me is speed performance, as well as running cool and energy consumption. Another possibility is to plan to run m primary drive with OS as RAID0 by using the two m.2 slots in the chassis. Wil this be safe or not advisable as Raid0? Here are my choices of drives on sales for October 8th and 9th : Samsung SSD 990 Pro with heatsink 2tb, 168,99 € (159,99€ without heatsink) SK Hynix Platinum p41 SSD 2tb, 156,99 € WD Black SN850x with Heatsink 141,99 € (129,99€ without heatsink) Kingston C3000 2Tb with heatsink (seems more compact), 149€ Crucial T500 2Tb (no heatsink pricier) 161€ Any recommendations? Thank you for your feedback.

Cool. It does not look like an MXM RTX 4060 would upgrade my Eurocome Sky X7C, a Clevo P775TM1G with the RTX2080. Would there be instead an RTX4080 MXM and could that be fitted in a Clevo P775TM1G chassis?