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xHi @Dell-Mano_G glad you made it over here A couple of questions if I may 1.The Precision 5470 14 inch model has an optional touch screen with active pen support but I do not think it is a true "2 in 1" i.e you can't fold the screen back on itself? If not how far does the hinge allow the screen to rotate/can it go flat on a desk for sketching? 2.I note the A2000 and A3000 are rated at 60W in the precision 5770 spec sheet. Are you able to share the rated wattage for the ampere graphics (A550 A1000, A2000, A3000) in the other precision models, 3570, 3571, 5470, 5570 It's an area I've always found Dell doing better than HP Z Books who tend to offer high spec cards but clock them way lower on smaller laptops than the equivalent Dell. Appreciate there may be boosts above this base wattage on some models when conditions allow so it may not be as straight forward as a single number but just a rough guide for the different models would be great. Thanks for continuing to contribute here

Thanks for the spec sheet links Will be a shame if they don't offer windows 10 on the 5470, 14 inch laptop, it has an optional touch screen with active pen support which is what got me most excited when I saw a preview of this a while back with our Dell contacts I haven't seen really promoted in any of the articles yet. There was a short lived 15 Inch 2in1 years ago but amd graphics killed it for us, we need NVIDIA for our products and this has it, I don't think it is a true 2 in 1 though not sure how far the screen folds back 🙂 Also while it might interest the hard core performance enthusiasts here less the Precision 5560 last I heard was one of, if not the the best selling precision model. Not offering windows 10 on the 5570 would also be rather shooting themselves in the foot as for most large organisations windows 11 is a non starter for now. It's less of an upgrade than Windows 7 to Windows 10 but I think most are still pretty cautious.

Thanks The good news is my results so far showed that when I can get the software to utilise both sets of cores the i9-12900k out performed both xeon w 18 core and ryzen 5950x 16 core significantly. even in heavily multi threaded simulation (FEA and CFD) workloads. It was also quicker in lightly threaded CAD workloads vs i7 11th gen Worksation, I don't have an i9 11th gen handy Will definately try Process Lasso as a workaround sounds like it will do a job in the interim before applications are updated. I was able to disable E cores in the Bios also but lost some performance of course. Looking forward to the laptop announcements 🙂

Just registered on these new forums to add my experience/ observations. I've not seen it listed anywhere that alder lake is not supoorted on windows 10 yes it lacks thread director but I haven't seen much difference in my testing of Windows 10 and 11 on the latest 12th Gen Intel CPUs. Also Precision Desktop Workstations such as the 3660 come with Windows 10 through downgrade rights I.e it comes with a Windows 11 license but Windows 10 pre installed and I would expect the same for laptops Sure there may be some things Linux or Windows 11 does better but that doesn't help if your apps don't run on it or your business is standardised on Windows 10 See https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/workstations-isv-certified/precision-3660-tower-workstation/spd/precision-3660-workstation Ive personally tested i7-12700k and i9-12900k desktop CPUs in Windows 10 and 11 with CAD, FEA, CFD and CPU based rendering applications and so far I'm inclined to believe the thread director doesn't make a huge ammount of difference performance was almost identical in my tests. To me so far it in my testing it has seemed to be more about how the software supports alder lake. Many apps will need updates to fully utilise this new architecture or prevent it incorrectly using the e cores only. My results varied from fully utilising P and E cores with no tweaks needed while other apps launching secondary processes e.g. To mesh/ run the simulation running on E cores only. This was the same in both Win 10 and 11. I managed to find some workaroundd so far high performance power plan/ plugging dual screens or raising the process priority to above normal in seemed to sort it but am feeding back to the developers. The Workaround depended on the application and not all applications that used secondary processes had the issue or even the same issue! Still early days in testing, I plan to test process lassoo also see of that can help. But the main thing is we are talking enterprise level systems here I am 99.9% sure Windows 10 being offered on the majority if not all of latest generation of Precision laptops. Some of the bigger companies I work with only just got off Windows 7 completely, big companies generally have little appetite for Windows 11 yet, I'd expect atleast a couple more years of downgrade licenses being preinstalled options from OEMs like Dell. See also https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-10-21h2-supported-intel-processors 12th gen Intel Desktop CPUs are listed as supported. Expect more news soon on Precision laptops that should put minds at rest 🙂