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18 hours ago, electrosoft said:
As soon as I saw this, I thought, "Oh, he's purposely trying to trigger @Papusan and @Mr. Fox!" 🤣
Looks good! I, too, loop my connector(s) over the top of my GPUs when able so you can see the whole card and it takes a bit of the downward pull off the connector. I've done this since Ampere as an additional reason on top of aesthetics.
ahaha actually i have a bit of a conundrum, i can never leave any color combination or solid single color for too long before i get bored of it. so i default to rainbow, basically the compromise i can live with the longest 😄
the routing of the GPU power cable was a necessity, since the angles Seasosnic cables can only be installed in this orientation. I think I actually might have preferred to route it downwards, so as not to go over the fan cooling the RAM: but its ok, I can live with it if it means im using high quality cables that down melt on me 😛
so as mentioned, started again with RAM tuning and boy can i see that im right on the very edge of stability at DDR5-8000. My previously tuned timings arent stable anymore, so gotta find the new tight spots. Basically, every CPU and RAM install slightly changes the minimum timings i can reach 😄 im able to boot up 8100/8200/8300 and get into windows but they dont pass TM5 testing, no matter how much i loosen the timings.
anyways, back to tuning 8000, about time i finish it up together with minimizing related voltages before i turn my gaze to CPU tuning 😛
just one thing left before the new setup is complete: i need a new GPU sag bracket! cant use the previous one, since im now sporting bottom fans, so im eyeing this one by UpHere:
cant be bothered with the ARGB version, dont want a frigging CABLE hanging off my sag bracket 😄 so black n white version it is for me. length should be fine at 276mm, with the Suprim SOC at 359mm.
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On 10/2/2025 at 2:30 PM, Mr. Fox said:
Yes, that is Red Fox. He is a smart boy, but has a sassy mouth.
@electrosoft, @Raiderman and @jaybee83 there is a new version of ZenTimings available that shows all of the sensors for voltage now. I will test to confirm that is true on the Strix as well, but it shows all sensors on the Master. It also shows tPHYRDL is matched whereas the last beta showed them mismatched (even though it was not). Also shows the Nitro settings in the lower right corner.
btw where did u find this version? on the official download page 1.35 is still the newest. thanks for providiing a link! gonna continue my RAM tuning and install this while im at it 🙂
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54 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:
holy crap one of the most iconic songs of all time, blasting it through my headphones right now yessssss 😄
ladies are asleep, finally some alone time for daddy to continue tinkering 😄
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5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
Yes, that is Red Fox. He is a smart boy, but has a sassy mouth.
@electrosoft, @Raiderman and @jaybee83 there is a new version of ZenTimings available that shows all of the sensors for voltage now. I will test to confirm that is true on the Strix as well, but it shows all sensors on the Master. It also shows tPHYRDL is matched whereas the last beta showed them mismatched (even though it was not). Also shows the Nitro settings in the lower right corner.
5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:Yup, also shows all for the Strix. But, tPHYRDL still shows a mismatch. I think it is accurate on the Strix. I'm not sure that tPHYRDL mismatch is actually an issue though. Seems like a lot of noise around that topic to me. I don't think it actually matters, but getting them to match is difficult on the Strix. Maybe it is the "special" A$$zeus NitroPath gimmick that slightly diminishes the memory overclocking on the ROG crap.
Edit: Nope, almost. VDDIO is still not being read on the Strix. Oh well. At least the Master has all of the readings now.
3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:Check this out. This could do a lot to help avoid melted connectors. Active load management per pin on the 12VHPWR socket.
about friggin time on all counts! thx for the headsup, currently enjoying a vacay on Malta with my two ladies 🙂 escaping the dreadful weather in germany, instead at 25-30C 🙂
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On 9/21/2025 at 9:23 PM, Papusan said:
When you feel scammed by AMD and our old good friend F. Azor
XT = Xtreme tax🤐
Flashing XT BIOS on AMD Radeon RX 9070 Yields up to 25% Performance Boost
If you have a Radeon RX 9070 you can make it up to 20% faster: VBIOS flashing is back
If you own or were planning to purchase a non-XT AMD Radeon RX 9070, you're in luck thanks to flashing its BIOS. For context, BIOS flashing was common about 15 years ago
well the scam part goes without saying, thats just the new normal nowadays. but the fact that crossflashing to different SKUs is BACK is absolutely awesome 😄
btw, first boot in the new case + new fans + new CPU cooler last night, w00t w00t!
all fans are spinning and the wifi 7 module works beautifully after driver install, 5.8 Gbps wifi speed for the win! 😁only got two minor gripes ill need to iron out in the coming days: three of the fans arent illuminated, so need to check the cabling. and ill also need an additional y-adapter with 4-pin PWM connectors to clean up some of the cabling up front / move it to the back. installing and managing a total of 15(!) 140mm fans takes its toll 😄
will be sure to post some pics once everything is fully functional and tidy 🙂
havent properly set up my fan curves yet but i did some quick testing with my 9950X3D in CB24 at stock, it maxed out in the mid 60s with 200W peak LOL. absolutely ridiculous 🙂
in any CASE (pun intended!), the Phanteks NV9 is BIG and its finally got enough space to cleanly manage ALL the cables on the backside, me likes.
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1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:
I've thought every release in the Borderlands game franchise sucked due to crappy-looking watercolored cartoon graphics. It feels like an animated comic book to me. I greatly prefer games that strive to achieve photorealism and the less realistic the graphics are the less I like it and much greater the likelihood I willl never play it more than 1 or 2 hours tops.
Too bad we live so far apart or we could have swapped WiFi cards from either of my motherboards. This is an area where cheap motherboards sometimes have a design edge over the more expensive models. The cheap models often have the WiFi/BT modules mounted in the same area that the M.2 SSDs are installed. It sucks having them under the rear I/O cover. Both of mine would be in the motherboard box if they were not installed in such an inconvenient spot.
The one and only thing I dislike about the AORUS Master is that Gigabutt provides no option in the BIOS to disable the onboard WiFi/BT module. It is the only brand I am aware of that omits that option in the BIOS. I contacted them almost immediately when I first installed it and discovered that firmware defect. I alert them to their engineering mistake and asked them to provide me with a custom BIOS that wasn't missing that feature and encouraged them to include it in all BIOS releases going forward. They replied quickly but refused and said I was the only "customer" that has ever complained and requested that option, and they won't consider changing anything unless numerous customers begin to complain about not having it.
I contrast that sort of disregard for customer experience with EVGA, who made several BIOS changes at my request and made them standard options in firmware releases going forward.
i imagine us hanging out to be quite fun and interesting irl 😄
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got the new case in, old case almost empty of hardware now. disassembled the motherboard last night for a nice thorough cleaning and also replaced all thermal pads on the SSDs, as well as the VRMs and chipsets while i was at it 🙂 of course, i also swapped out the intel Wifi6E card with the new Qualcomm Wifi7 model. jeez what a crazy amount of steps and screws and heatsinks it takes to actually GET to the wifi card! whereas in laptops i just remove the back cover and bam, there it is....they could learn a thing or two from that on desktops 😄
next step: get the PSU and all the cabling out of the old case and prep the Noctua fans for the new AIO. that and the new fans have also arrived, so now just waiting on the extra bling light strips for the case, but that aint time sensitive for the transplant 🙂
its fun to be tinkering again, but cant afford more than 2h every night before i basically drop dead from total exhaustion 😅
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waddhup boiiiiiiz
Soooo as mentioned before, Ive now pimped our home network up from a crappy ISP Wifi5 router to a Wifi 7 Mesh router by Cudy (WR11000 / BE11000), hadnt heard of that brand before but they seem to be on the up and up recently:
While at it, I figured why not use the opportunity and also swap out my Wifi card from the Intel 210ax with Wifi6E to a Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi7 M.2 Adapter:
until I realized that i need to FRIGGIN TAKE OUT THE WHOLE MOTHERBOARD in order to remove the VRM heatsinks via screws on the back to get to the Wifi module omg...
so THEN i figured: F it, if im gonna disassemble my whole build, might as well upgrade the case, fans and the AIO while im at it, clean all the components that will stay the same and start out FRESH 😄
soooo, case first, im sticking to Phanteks and switching over to the NV9 MKII, absolute unit of a case, even larger than my current Enthoo Pro II (going from approx. 77L to 99L total volume LOL):
reasons why I chose this case:
- welp, SIZE obviously 😄 also looking forward to having more space for cable management on the back vs. my current Enthoo Pro II
- motherboard located quite low in the case, so lots of space up top to move my current front AIO to the top
- more glass to see inside
- moving to all 140mm fans, currently still have 3x120mm at the bottom
while im at it, also gonna get the light strips upgrade kit for the case, bling it out some more:
next up, CPU AIO, sticking with Arctic but moving from my current 420 LFII to the 420 LFIII Pro. Apparently, the "pro" moniker in this context means that the fans have been upgraded, thus higher static pressure and higher air flow:
ill be keeping my Noctua NF-A14 Industrial-PPC 3000rpm for push/pull on the AIO and use the included AIO fans as case fans instead.
Also gonna get another 6 Arctic P14 Pro fans to deck out the NV9 MKII:
theyre actually pretty impressive specwise, with 187m³/h air flow and 5.2 mm H2O static pressure. This with 6 years warranty and at 30€ for a 3-pack. so basically 10 bucks per fan, nice 🙂
Lets see how long this transplant will take, I wager itll likely take me a full week of late nights after my lil princess has gone to bed to make this happen. it will sure be fun though!
Will update you guys with pics once done 🙂
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16 hours ago, Papusan said:
Nice. Big corps playing god. Greed comes in different colors. But big corps is the big player stealing all other peoples work/privacy/data. Meta, Google, Microsoft and +++ of others, I look at you and your AI bots scrape the whole internet and peoples computers for everything they need to keep AI running. For max profits.
Bloomberg accuses Gamers Nexus of copyright infringement over a clip of President Trump speaking. Bloomberg's rival video about Nvidia AI GPU smuggling did not attract the expected viewership.
Gamers Nexus YouTube channel at risk after Nvidia AI GPU smuggling video prompts copyright strike
LOL this is soooo ridiculous and smallminded of them, just wow. they chose the wrong youtuber to mess around with, oh theyre in trouble now 😄
6 hours ago, Reciever said:I do the same thing, I do not entertain people wasting my time.
In other news, I have been promoted a couple of times at work and its smack dab in the middle of the busy season for my line of work which is why I haven't been able to post. It certainly seems the forum needs some work again and we are entertaining moving the host to another platform. I'll be bugging Hiew about that maybe to happen this holiday weekend.
duuude big news, double congratz, TWO promotions at that! hope u can keep up with the new scope, dont u drown on us 😅
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2 hours ago, cylix said:
Hahaha, the PRO 7995wx is good even Overkill for what is needed it but it was an offer i cannot refuse😆😆.
Was in holiday and didnt have time for it.
Still need to optimize and rearange Cables inside, got a 9100 Pro2 TB for that Pcie gen 5. Need more ram and also gpus. Ignore the gtx1050 , it's only for tests. I will need to get an riser 90 degree to fit the gpu inside.
But I love the mainboard, Asrock wrx90 ws evo, went with it because the other wrx90 is from Asus and I despise them. More expensive as the asrock and full of problems .Reddit and forums are full of them. STUPID Asus wants over 1k euro for that mainboard and still cannot make it work.
The Asrock is incredible, so many options, bulid like a tank, a lot of connectivity, bmc remote management is superb. And it booted and did the whole diagnostic and memory training in under 3 minutes. That's good for a complicated platform like the threadripper.I love it.
Use case it will be my homelab brain. Will run a gazillion VMs because Cores are plenty and I will also start Local AI training. Still need to decide on gpus..maybe I will get some Rtx A series ore Rtx Ada for it.
lol that 1050 looks more like a sound card or SSD expansion card in this context 😄 completely dwarfed!
sounds like a nice use case for such a monster setup. please tell me ull get urself an RTX 6000 Pro, block it and overclock it to the max 😄
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1 hour ago, electrosoft said:
KPx still bringing the high heat overall.... (at least in this large batch of thermal pastes)
hmmm lots of more current pastes missing here, i.e. NT-H2, Kryonaut Extreme, Duronaut, etc...
20 minutes ago, Papusan said:Hmmm. Not enough dies doesn't look good for pricing the next months. Do they really sell that much of this custom card?
Noctua says Nvidia doesn't have enough dies to make big, brown, RTX 5090 — RTX 5090 Noctua Edition may never see the light of day
i call BS LOL 😄
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2 hours ago, electrosoft said:
I've made the 70 min trip now three times in the last 8 days. I'm good for awhile. I scored the Vanguard for a good price and scoured the entire store to my hearts content and found nothing I wanted/needed with my current collection of hardware on my shelves.
its a weird feeling, isnt it? being content with the hardware u currently own. almost feels numbing after the constant "itch" 😄
soooo wife just caused a new itch cuz shes having wifi dropout issues with both her phone and work laptop at home. currently looking at upgrading our home network from wifi 5 to wifi 7, new router and m.2 adapters 🙂
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2 minutes ago, Papusan said:
At least 2 flaws here. If not 3 or 4. The proprietary second power connector and not nickelplated cold plate for Liquid metal. And what with the prices? $4000 or higher? Asus just can't sell this card below $4500... Or can they?
And what with an 2000w XOC vbios for everyone? Too much to ask for?
the bare copper cold plate was mentioned by Roman, but he wasnt sure if this was also the way they did it in the production version, might have just been for demonstration purposes only / prototype stuff.
the rest for sure, amen to that 😄
and yes, too much to ask for, cuz then the "select few" dont have a big advantage anymore and everyone will bitch n moan about increased RMAs eating into their 2000+% profit margins 😄
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btw guys, Asus Matrix incoming with 2 power connectors (BTF + 12V-2x6). When both are connected, the vbios allows for up to 800W TDP, aint that interesting?
Romans video is unfortunately only available in german, but autogen subs are your friend 🙂
oooor check out other sources, i.e. https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-rog-matrix-revealed-quad-fans-and-up-to-800w-support
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On 8/20/2025 at 6:27 AM, electrosoft said:
Yeah, the scalpers were all over those still trying to hold onto the last gasp of scalping.....
I hope they get caught with a metric ton of stock but alas the holidays are right around the corner and I expect prices to soar right back up.....
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Finished collecting some OC Deus Ex Mankind Divided runs.
I like Deux Ex and the Dawn Engine. DX12, no RT and can cap out the 5090 to 100 right from the jump to the end with all the eye candy and setting jacked to max (aka, every setting clicked/slid to the right)
Astral vs Ventus vs Vanguard.
these numbers are crazy. just goes to show that its all about SL these days, custom AIB cards are only worth it from a price stability and stock cooling / design perspective. very good call on the vanguard! +6% on avg fps is insane!
9 hours ago, electrosoft said:You learn something everyday.....
I did not know Newegg would do an in store credit within the window if the price drops outside of their "price protection" pre Prime Day / Black Friday price protection (which is them basically saying this item is definitely going on sale).
I know Amazon just throws you the birds and says to return it.
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Glad you were able to sort it all out and we can get that blocked up and ready to go. Luckily it's a good sample so that adds weight to wanting to hold onto it too.
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@jaybee83 before I start to potentially vBIOS hop around again on the Vanguard, what vBIOS did you settle on for your Suprim as the "one to rule them all?"
haha in the end is was a neck on neck race between the GB Master and GB Master ICE vBioses. the ICE beat the regular Master in several instances but had 1-2 larger losses to the Master, but the Master was overall more balanced without any larger losses. in your case i would test those two in the apps ure most focused on (i.e. WoW 😉 )
naturally, i can only talk for the specific vbios versions i tried, i have no idea if this holds true across all Master vs. all Master ICE vbios versions available on TPU. if you want i can go back and check which specific versions i tested.
edit: kool, i had previously attached the exact vbioses i was testing, here you go:
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11 hours ago, electrosoft said:
I think @jaybee83's Suprim 5090 was around 1.02v? He put up a really nice post early on when he was taking the time and putting in the work testing numerous vBIOSes. He also had lower overall boost lock clocks when checked too. I don't know if things have changed since then.
yup no dice on that front, 1.02 is all she will do, no matter the settiings or vbios versions. on the plus side, the likelihood of this card melting down with the XOC vbios is much lower due to the lower max. voltage. plus temps are nice. on stock fan curve im maxing out at 70-72C on the core, i recently applied a custom fan curve and now baaaarely touching 60-61C in the worst case.
2 hours ago, electrosoft said:That awkward moment when you realize you're going to have to rerun all your benchmarks because you didn't push Power Limit slider at all past 100 on the Vanguard on any of them..... /awkward.... 🤪
#IWantThat4Percent
I'm ready for a clean install anyhow. Between flopping and testing 5 different cards on this Install (9070xt, 3060ti, Shadow 5080, Ventus 5090, Vanguard 5090) and just trying out all types of software and tweaks lately and moving back and forth between various Nvidia drivers, it needs a clean slate to start....
Happy birthday @Papusan! The forums wouldn't be the same with out you old friend! Hope you're still enjoying your vacation.
admit it, u did that on purpose to have an excuse for another bench run and a fresh install. dude ure doing those fresh win installs like the rest of us reboot our systems 😄
btw, welcome back to the 5090 club, very shocking and unexepected indeed that u came back......not 😛 nice catch with the vanguard, it is indeed basically like a suprim only with a bit less capable cooler and iirc some SMDs missing on the PCB (would have to look that up again tho).
in any case, i lucked out on the max voltage / OC front this time around, but were talking like 2-3% difference (if that) on the bleeding edge!
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3 hours ago, tps3443 said:
what?! how is that even possible, wth....
2 hours ago, electrosoft said:Whoa!
And here I thought my Shadow 5080 for $500+ off MSRP $825 out the door in my hands was the killer deal....sheesh!
The real trick seems to be to sell your old card when prices go insane then sit back and ride your backup card for 4-5 months till prices get sane again UNLESS you can snag a card at launch or close to it before prices start to trend up.
4-5 months on a backup card...sorry but nah, no amount of savings would be worth that to me 😄
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7 hours ago, electrosoft said:
And prices keep coming on down, down, down.....
$2199.99 brand new PNY ARGB model no less.....
Apply for a MC credit card and it's $2089.99 at check out......
NOW WE'RE TALKING!!
And reports are prices will continue to come down because the 5090 stock piles just simply aren't moving....
To think at one point this card was $3300+ 3 months ago.....
FYI Best Buy will price match this online and with 5% rewards, it is the same price ($2089.99) when all is said and done and you don't have to open up a MC CC to get it.
I'm mulling this one over, but I might stick it out for another model / price. We'll see. At this rate, some of the original $1999.99 launch models might return to that pricing and via MC or BB, that is $1899.99 new or B&H even more with their tax back CC.
lesson learned for the 6090: will not bother to spam refresh during launch, but rather lean back and enjoy the 5090 3-4 months longer until prices come down to normal levels 🙂
(watch me eat my words once the 6090 actually launches 😄)
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18 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
Still slowly working toward finding the max core OC. Not there yet. This is with +300 core and +3000 memory. Max voltage is 1.070V. Temps are still great in spite of the little fans @Papusan mentioned. I might have to dust off the portable AC and see if the boost clocks will hold higher under load.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/139527683 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5878196
14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:So, I flashed the Gigabyte AORUS Master 5090 vBIOS and got an instant boost in performance. @Papusanand @jaybee83 isn't that the one you both decided was the best? I tried the Extreme Waterforce version and it disables the fans since that card does not have fans.
Same exact overclock settings as the previous post, just different firmware. If keep this it will get blocked and shunt-modded because the voltage and power limits are crippling it.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/139535603 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5878242?recalculate=true
oh mymy, what have we got here? 😄 welcome to the club bud, curious to see what u can squeeze out of that card. how much did u pay for it? hope u got a good price.
yeah, the GB Master vBios seems to be the best if you still need proper fan control. if you dont, then the waterforce xtreme seems to be quite nice, although i dont have any personal experience with that.
1.07V max vcore is quite nice, congratz on that!
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8 hours ago, electrosoft said:
Dude is always hustling to sell his bundles or "PC Optimization classes"
Monthly fees to join his discord....
Plenty of other tiers: $10/$20/$40/$75 per month
$750/yr tier also gets you access to his PC Optimization class....
Or the class on its own for ~$400.....
FC 48GB or 32GB DDR5 kits for $500.....
$100 "another chance" to get unbanned from the community if you were banned....
MAX fps build lists with affiliated links....
$500 consults on your hardware.....
Sheesh, dude is probably making a killing. Expect merch sooner than later on top of it.
Still watch his videos though.... 🤣
this. due to his always present agenda its difficult not to watch any of his vids and believe his "independent media" stance. sure, independent from external sponsors, but the motivation for bias in any kind of hardware testing or benchmarking is BIG when u offer these "optimization classes" for specific kind of CPUs/GPUs.
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1 hour ago, Papusan said:
Dang. Hello bro. +4 years at least since we crossed roads. Hope you're doing well.
AMD needed a gaming chips (X3D) at Threadripper price point. Hope they don't break $1000. All depends on 52 core Nova Lake.
It will be like this when Intel mixed the cores clusters for Arrow Lake. And they did it to reduce max temp for the more powerful P-cores.
Desperate rescue of Intel: US to force TSMC to buy 49% to secure tariff advantages for Taiwan
Intel credit rating hits rock bottom at Fitch, Intel sits at just two notches above junk status
Hmmmm. 5090 on Steam but no newer Radeon cards. And this is from Asia.
South Korean GPU popularity market: 76% for NVIDIA, 21% for AMD and 3% for Intel
thats one country in all of Asia and i wouldnt consider South Korea an emerging market, rather sits between emerging and industrialized (categorized as either depending on who you ask).
https://stockdividendscreener.com/technology/amd-revenue-by-region-and-by-country/
So we have 5 countries (US, Japan, China, Taiwan, Singapore) making up roughly 98% of AMD revenue. Rest of world, i.e. approx. 185 countries account for a mere 2%.
Ofc I expect Nvidia to have a similar lion share in above countries, but their market share in those ROW countries should far exceed that of AMD.
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On 8/5/2025 at 12:48 AM, ajc9988 said:
Boo! Ghost from the dead saying hi.
Death by a thousand papercuts! great to see you again bud 😄 what kinda system are you rocking these days?
On 8/5/2025 at 6:34 AM, electrosoft said:I would be all over a 9950X3D on steriods with dual X3D.....
Are you really comparing a single german retailer which moved ~2k GPUs total in that list versus the Steam established user database of 132 million monthly active users and ~69 million daily users? Really? 🙂
Even accepting not everyone participates in the survey, still.... common man! 🤣
VERY curious to see what kinda CPU that will be, if at all. heres to hoping that they supercharged their chiplet binning so as to provide the same clocks or maybe even higher than non-X3D chiplets, to have the best of both worlds. plus no more need for any scheduler / process lasso shenanigans 🙂 looking forward to this!
17 hours ago, Papusan said:I know good old man😀 But does the 9070(XT) sell so badly that they can't even reach up to 5070 or the heavly overpriced 5090 that is already represented on Steam? If so... Why not stop with GPU's ?
Meanwhile 5070 (1.28%), 5080 (0.62%), 5070ti (0.60%), 5060 (0.57%), 5060ti (0.56%) and 5090 (0.21%), have all made enough penetration on Steam
I know. But did the Intel board know that mr. Lip was a part of all this? The investigations have been going on for a while. I can't imagine the board didn't know. And if they didn't.... They have done a terrible job.
the thing to consider with AMD cards is that there are lots of regions in the world that barely have any AMD market penetration whatsoever. especially in emerging markets like south america or asia Nvidia is basically the only game in town. sso even if AMD kicks butt in the US and europe, that would barely equate to a drop in the proverbial bucket when looked at on a global scale vs. the preinstalled base and new sales in most other regions.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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awesome i will look into this some more before ordering 🙂 thanks for the input!