1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

Happy at least it can be shunted so we can see what it can do shunted and blocked. Hopefully Nvidia doesn't figure a way to shut that down on their FE's next go around when they'll only be $2499.99 🤑

 

I'm so torn between wanting to see FE cards remain sealed and aesthetically pleasing and torn down and blocked. 🤣

function over form my friend, function over form 😛 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

I will.

 

You know you can just press F12 in the BIOS to take a screenshot and save it to USB rather than using a camera.

 

This Strix has the same features as the Apex. That BIOS Q-screen thing with the mobo map. Also has eCLK (asynchronous BCLK) like the Apex and AORUS Master.

LOL i had no idea, now i feel like a moron 😄 thanks for the tip! ill try it next time in BIOS 🙂 

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Thanks. I will have a closer look tomorrow. My 9950X3D is SP120 as well. I just got the Strix build put together and have about 2.5 hours to sleep before work tomorrow. No problem running 8000 C36, but still need to tune it. First distro plate I have owned. I like it, but getting the air out of it was a little bit tedious. It was very noisey when it had tons of air in it. It is cranking out some decent flow (318-320 L/H). Top and bottom rads both push/pull. I purchased a second set of KingBank 8400 and will probably sell my G.SKILL 8000 EXPO kits (3 of them).

be sure to post ur VF curves, as well (9950X and X3D). lets get some comparisons going here to put some proper context to the curves 🙂 

20 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I like to think about the 4090 compared to the 4080. My experience was a substantial upgrade very nice boost in games. Everyone with/without a 4090 talked about it, and thought it was +$400 more well spent going for the $1,599 dollar 4090. Now consider the 5090 is also +$400 more than 4090 but an even larger upgrade than that was. 
 

I’m beginning to seriously question if anything is ever good enough for me or most people. When we all had 3090’s, and the 4090 came out, we complained because the 4090 was too damn good. It was so fast with frame Gen it made the 3090 instantly obsolete (Nvidia was no friend to us gamers because our 3090 is obsolete now) But now the 4090 owners complain because that didn’t happen again. I don’t think we can ever truly be happy with high end hardware no matter the product they give us.

 

I really don’t think any company or product can fit the bill for what we actually want that would make everyone happy and sing praise lol.  All we can do is waste our money, convince ourselves into buying the GPU, then we sing our praises about the things that are true. 

and THAT, my friend, is the crux of the hardware enthusiast reality 😄 

19 hours ago, Papusan said:

Btw. The newest tech in Papusan's plaza😀

haha nice that reminds me of the high tech toilets i saw in japan 😄 

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

@jaybee83 I forgot to ask, what is the SP rating on your 9950X3D CPU and what was the SP rating our your 9950X? Do you have any BIOS screenshots showing the V/F curve on them?

7950X = lemme see if i can find an old bios screenshot / post about this

First 9950X3D = SP 120

Second 9950X3D = SP 120 (120.44 across all cores),  V/F curve below.

in general, both the IMC and CCDs seem to be stronger on this one vs. the first. unfortunately, i dont have any screens of the VF curves for the first 9950X3D or the 7950X.

sorry about the awkwardly slanted screenshot, this is due to my curved monitor 😄 plus had to stitch together two pics cuz the low Bios res doesnt allow all 16 cores to be shown at the same time.

4 hours ago, johnksss said:

@Mr. Fox Not sure if you know this but.....

 

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The Wait Is Almost Over – Micro Center Grand Opening Coming in 2025! Micro Center is coming to Phoenix with over 25,000 items in stock and the industry’s best customer service. Phoenix, get ready to experience Tech Heaven for yourself—stay tuned for opening details!

 

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You might be able to rent that 5090 yet!!

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Hallelujah!!

Best news I have heard in a long time! Thanks for letting me know, Brother John.

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9070 XT has frame generation and it's much better than prior generations of RDNA. Same for ray tracing. NVIDIA needs to be minding their P's and Q's or they're going to find themselves in the same kind of trouble Intel did. Being asleep at the wheel isn't going to work out as well for NVIDIA as it has for a long time.

daaaaaamn, bro Fox will be basically moving into the new MC as a permanent resident 😄 

19 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Oh, and go ahead and offer a dual binned variant and call it "Extreme Edition" if you want ala Intel style and charge a touch more and I'm there for it.

ah yes please, id like to have one of those 😄 

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Nvidia is ready to help China with "cheaper" graphics cards for AI workloads. If you aren't alloved to sell higher tier graphics cards... What is better than offer them needed parts for DIY ? If they can offer the GB202 silicon and vram IC's much is done. And probably more difficult to track where it lands. Just use shell companies or/and their AIB partners around the China region. 48GB 5090's is incoming. But not for everyone. Jensen Huang will do everything for China. Even go outside the US ban for higher profits

 

Samsung GDDR7 3GB modules now available for DIY purchase in China, RTX 5090 48GB mods incoming?

In China, Samsung’s new K4VCF325ZC-SC28 24Gb memory is now on sale. Potential customers apparently need to buy at least ve modules to get free shipping, and each module costs around 10 USD.

RTX 5090 with higher vRAM by Nvidia themselves...it better be a 5090 Ti or Titan Blackwell!

btw guys, cmon now, we dont really need to be defending 8GB cards in 2025....dont come up with artificial use cases here, just vote with ur wallet and let them die out already.

37 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

I haven't had a chance to install it yet. I've been testing out the items I picked up from GTZ over on the OC forums. Fast and as advertised as always. Just a good guy all around. I wish the tech forums had a 1000 of him.

 

I'm going to move that 13400 from him into this B760 Gigabyte Gaming AX board I have w DDR5 6400 and install that before I give the 5070 a whirl in a few days. I've finished testing my 9070xt just about. 2fps+ Max OC'd vs stock on min and avg in Deux Ex, WoW, Fallout 76....yay? 🙂

 

Uh oh! Time to test one against your two other 9950x's?

 

I must admit, I'm still on the fence about maybe ordering a 285k instead and building out for comparison. I wish a decent (SP85+) would pop up for cheap to take the binning out of the process.

i can see that 5090 budget burning a hole in your wallet hahaha

i for one am done with hardware purchases for the time being, back to tuning the installed hardware (finish RAM and havent even started with the CPU yet!) and also more gaming! just finished Deliver Us Mars and also discovered a third installment is already in the making (Deliver Us Home). Now I am starting with Doom Eternal + Ancient Gods, first time ive tried it. Lets see how it compares to Doom 3 and Doom 2016 🙂 

10 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Mine is arriving on Tuesday.

ooooh joining the X3D club? nice, looking forward to your findings vs. the regular 9950X.

17 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I bought this KingBank kit. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DSZPHLCX?th=1 - very inexpensive

It is not advertised to have an EXPO 8400 profile, but lo and behold, it does. @jaybee83

I can't do 8400 with my CPU but it runs stable at 8200 with custom timings. Nice to not have the rainbow puke eyesore. tPHYRDL is matched. I bet it would handle 8400+ on the Gene or Apex. This kit performs pretty much identical to my G.SKILL 8000 TridentZ Neo EXPO 48GB kit. A bit slower than Neo 32GB 8000 kits, but to be expected with 48GB modules due to looser timing requirements.

 

The heatsinks are A WHOLE LOT BETTER than the G.SKILL heating blankets.

 

I will continue to do some tuning/testing on the Master and the Strix (once I have it). If it turns out to be a reliable kit then I will probably buy another one and sell the G.SKILL rainbow puke sticks just for the reason to not have to install any kind of bloatware to correct the rainbow puke rubbish.

 

 

thats really impressive for that pricing! no way i could compete with those speeds / timings tho lol. i for one am just happy i finally got 8000 stable. i finished tuning the primary timings: 8000-40-47-49-76 is the best i can get in my D2D OC stability tests. secondary and tertiary timings to follow, ofc but that will take a while 😛 still, nothing to sneer at, considering 8000CL40 is the same latency ratio as my previous 7600CLC38 or the universally recommended 6000CL30, but at much higher overall bandwidth. curious to see where my results will land once ive gotten all the timings dialed in.

welp this was a nothing burger 😄 turns out, once u insert TWO sticks instead of one the rules change completely. the 1.30V kit that was previously stable at 8000 is still king. while testing the two best 1.35V sticks i couldnt actually get them stable at 8000 with the same settings 😄 

sooo anyways, RAM binning done, will keep the 1.30V kit and see which speed will give me the best bandwidth / latency performance 🙂 thatll take another while.... RAM OC rabbit hole is real 😄 

57 minutes ago, johnksss said:

I'm starting to think @tps3443 is doing a little side work for Nvidia as hard as he is pushing this FE card. The card is the  bottom of the barrel. It always has been, that is why it is the cheapest to buy, but also usually the hardest to mod because Nvidia is in control and after each rendition of cards they take what they have learned from us in the forums and make their cards that much harder to crack. Nvidia does not like to RMA GPU's, they want them to be sold once and not returned for 4 more under sketchy warranties of.... it died while idling, but forgot to mention that a drip of water landed on the PCB while the card was "idling"😂

haha i get it though, bro @tps3443 is just happy with his purchase and is screaming it out into the forum void 😄 

sooo ive gone through all 8 new sticks individually with loose timings and maxxed out voltages, and here are the results:

5 sticks max out at DDR5-8500 and error out instantly at DDR5-8600

2 sticks max out at DDR5-8500 and error out about a third of the way through the stress test at DDR5-8600

1 stick maxes out at DDR5-8600 and errors out instantly at DDR5-8700

now doing the same settings with the kit that was stable at 8000, but testing the sticks individually. they do seem do be significantly weaker, at least the first one cant do 8500 stable, currently testing 8400.

ill be testing the sticks that can work their way through completely or for a good chunk at 8600 and do all permutations of  two sticks with more stringent settings. in the end im hoping ill be able to achieve 8200 with respectable timings, that would be grand 🙂 

w00t w00t! we got separation! 🙂 Stick No. 5 of kit 3 is stable at DDR5-8600 😄 Fun fact: this is one of the open box items, thus significantly cheaper than the new kits 😛 now off to 8700...

5 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

i guess it all comes down to optimization by the mobo manufacturer. in my case i havent had any luck with EXPO kits, but XMP kits work quite nicely.

 

AHA! "finally" errored out at 8600 😄 now for a full 8500 stress test to dial this stick in and then off to the others. should go more quicklly now that i have a rough idea of where to start testing.

currently on the third stick, so far theyre all maxing out at 8500. seems like these kits are more narrowly binned than the others. curious to see how they perform in pairs, maybe then ill have more of a spread. id definitely welcome it, since ill need to decide which ones to return 😄 

18 hours ago, Clamibot said:

Bartlett Lake confirmed!

 

Looks like we won't have to go to Xeon CPUs to escape the E-core madness after all!

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-confirms-nova-lake-s-nova-lake-u-p-core-only-bartlett-lake-s-desktops-panther-lake-laptops/

nice! looks like ill be holding off on upgrading my lady's machine until Bartlett Lake shows what it can do 🙂 also hoping for additional fixes to stave off silicon degradation. when it comes to my lady, stability is everything! us hardware nerds can live with a bit of instability when it means MOAR POWAH 😛 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yeah, I think I am going to return this kit for a refund. It performs quite well but I cannot stop it from erroring out. So far every Intel XMP 48GB kit I have tested on the AORUS B850 Elite, X870E Master, X670E Gene and X870E Apex has not been capable of being stablized and every EXPO kit has. I think I am going to stop wasting my time with XMP. Something is off with the XMP profiles that isn't good for Ryzen. What is weird is if I have stable setting with an EXPO kit and replace it with an equivalent XMP kit the stablity is gone even with the same manual memory tuned setting. I can't really explain that. There is something different. The 48GB EXPO kits are also harder to tune than 32GB EXPO kits.

i guess it all comes down to optimization by the mobo manufacturer. in my case i havent had any luck with EXPO kits, but XMP kits work quite nicely.

AHA! "finally" errored out at 8600 😄 now for a full 8500 stress test to dial this stick in and then off to the others. should go more quicklly now that i have a rough idea of where to start testing.

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

@jaybee83 this just booted and ran fine with the Intel XMP-8400 profile. The only adjustment I made was maxing out tREFI and turned off GDM/PMU manual to 0. I didn't touch voltage or anything else on the memory. Even the latency is good for no tweaking and sloppy default XMP settings. Now I am going to see what Gigabyte AI Snatch does. I just discovered that. Let's see if it is a gimmick.

thx for the headsup, ive actually tried those in the RGB version (lights manually switched off for daily operation and stress testing, i just go with the RGB version for higher resale value), but no luck on my mobo.

BUT

the four additional kits of the G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK arrived yesterday! This is the 1.35V sku, there is also a 1.30V sku under the same model number, which is the kit that ran 8000 stable in my previous testing.

Im now testing the 8 sticks individually and so far i havent found an upper limit for the first stick LOL. DDR5-8400 running well, upping in 100 Mhz steps 🙂 Will update you guys once i know more 😄 

Ofc im aware that with two sticks the frequency limit will be lower, but this nevertheless already bodes well. First time ever ive even seen anything boot up and run stable at 8100 Mhz or above on my mobo 🙂 

On 6/1/2025 at 4:01 AM, Mr. Fox said:

If I had to wager I would bet that it's true because NVIDIA is who they are... control freaks. If they can find a way to screw the people that buy their products that is exactly what they will do. That's how they roll and who they are, and that is how they have been for a long time. Also one of the numerous reasons I dislike FE video cards.

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And, on a happier note, I ordered my second Lian Li O11D XL EVO to house the second AORUS Master. Also ordered a D5 distro block from Radikult Customs and about 12 feet of Alphacool EDPM tubing.

 

Now I hear rumors of a 9080 XT with 32GB of GDDR7. I am so glad I didn't blow $3000+ on a 5090 already. Now it is no longer even tempting. Not caring actually feels really good.

On 6/1/2025 at 7:24 AM, Mr. Fox said:

I was watching a Moore's Law is Dead video and apparently it is based on some leaked benchmarks.

 

As long as the temps are not 100°C I would gladly buy a 4090-level AMD card for the price of a 5080 or less. So, I hope it is true, but we shall see. AMD really doesn't cater to performance enthusiasts. Their niche is more geared toward mainstream on everything.

 

 

oh that would be very sweet if they came out with such a card. there is a possibility that AMD didnt expect Nvidia to nerf the 5080 THIS HARD, so theyre now seeing an opening to slot in smth between the 5080/4090 and 5090.

21 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

5090 is just an expensive midrange high end gamer cards.  The more you pay the more you save. Here's Nvidia's new  "gamer "flagship" card😀

 

 

Not sure this would please @electrosoft😁 The $10.000 cards almost sounds like a real circular saw. Very special sound from it. Not the worst I have heard but the sound from this is awful and more annoying than this one from my older post

 

boiz@5090 owners, welcome to midrange 🥲 even more so cuz the Pro 6000 can be oveclocked! now lets see if Roman will design and make his very own custom water block for this card. seeing as he actually has all the milling equipment and know-how, this would be perfect as a part 2 for his "project irrationality" 😄 

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Only if you think one of them is bad, or if you are concerned about one of the motherboard DIMM slots having a problem. Otherwise, I am not sure what you would accomplish. If you are not planning to use it with one stick of RAM then probably no point in finding how far it can go with one stick installed.

this is with the silicon lottery in mind. check and see which sticks clock the highest and then pair up the two best ones to maximize OC ability. i figured since were talking 4 kits of the same SKU mixing and matching wouldnt be as bad as doing so between different kits.

15 hours ago, electrosoft said:

5090 owner told, "You should have gotten a 9070xt bro..."

 

His response.... 🤣

 

 

valid point, valild counterpoints 😄 i like that guy's style haha

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

This is not tuned, just settings I suspected would boot and run. I haven't tried 8600 yet, but it looks like 8200 and 8400 aren't too hard, even with GDM disabled. Can probably do more enabled. I suspect 8600 will work as well. But, the performance doesn't move a lot because the CPU architecture is the bottleneck. Still impressive for a 4-DIMM board.

good timing, i was juuuust about to let you guys know ive just put in an order for FOUR MORE RAM KITS 😄 since my order for the 1.35V G.Skill DDR5-8000 QVL kit got cancelled by the first shop, i looked around and found a nice offer for two new and two open box RAM kits of that sku. 

sooo with your above screenshots in mind, lets see if i can catch up a bit and be able to get 8100+ stable with one of those kits 🙂 

this brings the total to 13 ram kits binned haha.

i am actually considering to now test the individual sticks and just pair the two best performing ones, what do u guys think?

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, I delidded the second 9950X and, yes, nice temperature drop. 74.9°C core max in Cinebench R23.

what were the temps before?

i just finished benching the Teamgroup kit one last time and switched over to the "golden" kit at 8000, starting to tighten up timings 🙂 

14 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

Yup, I can attest to this. My DDR4 kit I have in my older desktop (with the super bin 10900K from bro Fox) can do 4400 MHz CL 15 with default XMP subtimings as long as I have my Noctua IPPC fans blowing on the sticks at max RPM (3000 RPM). If I use lesser fans, the sticks aren't stable even with the normal 4000 MHz XMP profile as the RAM can't be kept cool enough to not error out. No wonder the previous owner waterblocked these sticks. The 4000 MHz CL 14 kit costed double what this kit did at the time I bought this kit, so I went with this kit instead and am still satisfied with having the second best. It looks like it can definitely still be pushed further with better cooling.

 

I typically do 4200 MHz as a daily driver speed as that is the best compromise between performance and stability (barring better cooling). A 5% overclock over XMP isn't bad given it was a brute force approach and I'm not experienced with RAM overclocking.

good input, forgot to mention that im actively cooling my RAM with a 140mm Arctic fan. during the RAM kit testing i kept an eye on max temps during stress tests, the best cooled kits were in the low to mid 40s C max temp. whereas the lesser, more plasticky sticks went up to the low 50s. nevertheless, at 1.69V for both VDD and VDDQ (testing voltages, will tune those down later after tightening up timings) those temps are still more than ok and not worried about it 🙂 

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

lol, yeah, I cancelled it after talking to my wife and really thinking if saving some $$$ was worth the downside for the next few years when I am 100% happy with the Astral (besides the price of course 🤣). I actually spent considerable time on BB looking at cards and then MC and NE and seeing the various levels of savings vs worth the potential issues and would I be happy with it weighing the pros and cons and each time was a no and so here we are.

 

I could be equally happy with a Suprim I think, but they're so close in price what's the point and there's a chance it's a dud and/or has coil whine.....

 

My wife knows me better than I know myself and at dinner we talked about it again in detail. And in her final words, "From what I heard tonight, there is like zero chance this 5090 is going to be anywhere near as good or well built or perks filled like your 5090 now and you've said numerous times your 5090 is perfect like your 4090. so I think this is stupid and you are going to regret it over $800 which is really nothing overall over two years. Either keep it or return it and use that rodeo (Radeon lol) thing and pass the rice."

 

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True, the Windforce tier is one step below the Gaming OC tier. The Aorus Master level is where Gigabyte really starts to step it up a level. The price:performance level of your 4090 was great. Once costs get down to a certain point, you can start to say, "Well, I'm ok with this and that." I remember you weren't doing backflips over its clocks.

 

FE build quality is lights out, period. It is streamlined and elegant. I have always loved the look and feel of the last three generations of FE cards. the 4090 FE was just a monster slab of beauty and the 5080 / 5090 FE is a compact eye catching engineering beauty too. Even Steve at GN lavished a ton of praise on it.

 

It's gonna be painful watching you tear it apart, but it's worth it for the results. 🤣 

 

Once you start pursuing quiet computing, it is really hard to go back to noisy setups outside of pure benching for a few minutes here and there. My system is absolutely whisper quiet during normal use and gaming I can have the speakers on low and still not hear my system.

welp this is one of the many reasons we keep our ladies around, to keep our heads straight when we get lost in hardware land 😄 

5 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

You would be surprised how many people I have told this to that do not believe me, LOL. It is absolutely for real a lottery, in some ways even worse that the CPU lottery. Only about one in five or six memory kits I have owned (DDR4 and DDR5) have actually worked correctly at their advertised speeds with default XMP profiles, etc. and only one out of two that did work correctly as advertised were actually worth keeping for overclocking. So, about 2 out of 10 that worked as advertised with 1 of those 2 samples actually being good enough to keep and not RMA for a refund. I have returned more garbage memory kits than I can keep track of.

im guessing the disbelief stems from the marketing, in that those high speed RAM kits basically come "pre-binned" from the factory. only issue being that as opposed to binned GPUs or CPUs, theres much more at play here in terms of mobo / CPU IMC / firmware / user tuning capabilities, so way more factors to consider in being able to reach those advertized speeds.

i for one am reaaaaally happy that my CPU / mobo combo is indeed capable of 8000(+) speeds 🙂 

Soooo. turns out silicon lottery is real, even with RAM kits. The second Trident Z5 Neo turned out significantly better than the first one, at least being able to make it halfway through testing at DDR5-7800.

Secondly, pricing is NO indicator whatsoever when it comes to OC ability on a given mobo. Among all the kits tested, the Kingston Fury was the most expensive (387€ vs. 298€ 2nd place, 270€ avg. and 229€ cheapest kit) but actually performed the worst, erroing out pretty much instantly at 7600. For comparison, the "golden" DDR5-8000 kit i found only cost me 266€, so a tad below average!

So this only leaves the 1.35V older sku of the G.Skill 8000 kit, which unfortunately got cancelled / refunded by the shop i ordered with. However, since that kit is specifically the only one listed on the QVL of the X670EE ill try to get my hands on it from a different source. im just too curious to see how it holds up with the 1.30V variant (secretly hoping i might be able to push 8100/8200 😛).

so anyways, hope this data might help out someone here! it certainly was an eye opener for me, thanks to bro @Mr. Foxfor putting those silly thoughts into my head 😄 

now to initiate the bunch of returns for all the "loser kits" 😛 and hoping to get all my money back 😄 

conclusion for now:

4 out of 9 max out at 7400 MT/s, so basically half (including my current TG DDR5-8200 kit)

4 out of 9 max out at 7600 MT/s

1 out of 9 is able to do 8000 MT/s

Notes:

Striked through: Out of the race

Blue: current champ

Percentage in parenthesis: how far did the stress test go before it errored out

8000 Mhz

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048E24GX2-TZ5RK 1.30V (newer SKU) = 7600 / 7800 / 8000 / 8100 (Win Logon)

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK 1.35V (older SKU)

G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 1 = 7600 (1%)

G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR Kit 2 = 7600 / 7800 (49%)

Patriot Memory PVXR548G80C38K = 7600 / 7800 (3%)

Kingston Fury KF580C36RLAK2-48 = 7600 (0%)

Lexar ARES Gen2 RGB LD5U24G80C40BR-RGD = 7600 (20%)

8200 Mhz

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB F5-8200J4052F24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (97%)

8400 Mhz

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB SP-8400J4052G24GX2-TZ5RK = 7600 / 7800 (1%)

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Whew, that moved quick!

no surprise there, reputable seller with top notch wares and awesome pricing 🙂 if only bro fox was located a bit closed id shop at "Mr. Fox Rox Hardware Shop" way more frequently 😄 

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I just pulled the trigger on a Gigabyte Windforce 5090 for $2639.99.

 

If it turns out to be a decent card (IE no or low coil whine which is all I care about really), I'll return the Astral and pocket the ~$800 difference as for what I do it will get me what I want and slap that $800 back in my pocket. It's priced closer to an FE than an Astral.

 

Astral is a monster, don't get me wrong with a top Voltage range of 1.110 and satisfies every thing I could want in a 5090 except the price. If everything works out as planned, if one of you (this thread only) wants it for exactly what I paid ($3582.59) + S&H, let me know else back it goes by next Sunday no harm; no foul. I won't sell it on OC. I'll just return it and avoid the headaches from over there.

 

I'm also going to be testing a few sub $200 budget x870 boards  and maybe selling off the Crosshair too while I finish setting up these two other systems to sell off a bunch of my other parts laying around. Time to reel this ship back in a bit. 🙂

uhlala going for best bang/buck, nice. keep it up with the impressions on the Astral vs. Windforce. anything catching your eye yet that would be worth a price increase for the Astral, aside from the per pin monitoring? hows the cooling and voltage range on the new card?

ill continue the RAM binning today, two more kits currently incoming. that leaves one last kit that hasnt yet shipped from the respective shop.

will likely start the return process today for the "loser kits" 😄 and also did a first pricing check on fleabay for my current Teamgroup 8200 kit. ill finish up the tightening of subtimings on the TG kit to get some AIDA64 baseline numbers to compare with the new 8000 speed, should be interesting!

speaking of fleabay, just sold my 7950X yesterday to a dude in croatia for about 90% of the current new in box pricing, cant complain!

3 hours ago, Reciever said:

Looks like benchmarking killed the electrical wiring in my room.

 

To be fair it wasnt that great to begin with but I guess 800w for the better part of the day pushed it over the edge.

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Wow. What happened? Melted insulation or overheated socket? Do you have aluminum wiring from before it got banned by most building codes?

 

I have never experienced that before, only tripped circuit breakers. I have replaced two circuit breakers that were tripped too many times and apparently weakened from lots of benching and pulling over 1000W from the wall.

im guessing u two do something right @benching 😄 

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Ditto with my main rig card, but you water cool the CPU or AIO? You know what, just slap up a refresher pic of your rig.... 🤣

 

w00t! on the 8000! on a 2DPC x670e board, that is a massive win!

 

 

yessir, CPU is on an Arctic Freezer II 420 with Noctua IPPC3000 fans in push/pull 😄 

interesting tidbit on the kit that made 8000 possible: its 1.35V counterpart is actually the ONLY kit listed at DDR5-8000 on the mobos QVL 😛 so this 1.30V variant seems to be "identical enough" to be able to utilize the firmware compaibility. still waiting on the 1.35V sku tho, very curious to see if its also able to reach 8000 🙂