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bro @Papusan TPU review of the Astral LC just dropped:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-astral-liquid-oc/
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5 minutes ago, johnksss said:
I have bought a dead CPU because it had the missing components needed to fix the partially broken CPU I had at the time. (7980XE)
ok totally get that....but u surely didnt pay several hundred bucks for it 😄
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6 minutes ago, Rage Set said:
Probably someone who thinks they know better than you and can score a cheap working CPU they can fix. Once they realize they can't, they will either request a refund or commit return fraud against a retailer. While that sounds cynical, I've stopped buying open boxes due to the latter reason.
welp i wish him all the best with that 😄 ive included clear, concise statements at three different spots in the offer (title, offer type / item condition, detailed description text) that the cpu is defective and its also clearly stated that there are no refunds 😛
crazy people!
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um.... ok guys LOL i just sold my defective 9950X3D on ebay for a THIRD of the price i paid for it. it was gone within a few minutes, how insane is that?!?!
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8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
Sorry to hear about your CPU Brother @jaybee83. Something similar happened to Brother @Raiderman. I delidded his 9950X and tested it out. Everything worked great. I use the TG Mycro direct die block. He used it and had issues with contact and thermals using a die frame and regular waterblock. He removed the CPU and when he put it back it the thing was dead. It has nothing visually wrong with it.
By the way. I finally found a 48GB EXPO 8000 kit and it is totally stable in the Gigabyte Master. It's on the QVL as well. I believe it is a new SKU. All other 48GB memory I have tested on every AM5 motherboard was unstable. G.SKILL and TeamGroup Intel XMP kits were never stable even with all manual tuning.
sounds very familiar, i was also struggling with proper contact and seating inside the socket. im suspecting that maybe there were some micro / hairline cracks in the silicon that destroyed the cpus in both cases, this due to uneven pressure. thats the difficult thing when having several pieces of silicon and not just a single large centrally located one on the substrate.
kool, good to know with the EXPO kit, ive already had it on my list of potential kits to bin through 🙂 lets see when ill finally get around to that now that my hardware budget has taken a blow after ordering a second 9950X3D 😅
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5 hours ago, electrosoft said:
DAMN!!!!! I'm so sorry bro. 😞
I've killed a few chips over the years pushing them too hard. Still hurts to see it happen. They aren't cheap!
A proper sorting of the universe would have your replacement 9950X3D having a monster IMC and run ice cold.
Next question is, do you plan on delidding this one?
thx for the kind words bud, i feel like an idiot 😛 trying to remember how many cpus ive destroyed thus far in my pc lifetime... aside from 1-2 cheapass budget cpus to hone my vice delid skills (back in the day there were no resdy made delidders, had to help urself 😄) i think this might be my very first cpu haha 😛 storage, mobos, gpus, even ram, have all crapped out on me before, but not cpus. in that case it was about time i guess?! 😄
anyways, ill first have to check and see what i got with the new cpu before deciding on delidding. itll hopefully get delivered by tuesday. problem is also time constraints, this weekend was basically a golden opportunity to do the cooling upgrade for cpu & gpu, not sure when the next time is ill get this chance #familylife
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9 hours ago, electrosoft said:
Nice baseline set of data to publicly set in stone before "The Tinkerage" starts. 🙂
Did you block your 4090 Sujprim or run it strictly on air? Do you plan on blocking your 5090?
nah not interested in water blocks. i got the air version specifically to stay on air. i just filled up the gap between PCB and backplate.
welp, seems like i killed the 9950X3D 💩 delidding went down pretty smooth, but i think something about the TG HPHS install sent it into oblivion. after lots of troubleshooting i swapped the 7950X back into the socket and after many attempts it finally booted up (apparently the mobo asks if the cpu had been switched and one needs to manually confirm that. however that message didnt show up, just blackscreen. found out about this "invisible message" online and just attempted a blind confirmation via kb, it worked 😛).
im relieved that the mobo is still functional and also LUCKY that i still have the 7950X around (its already on sale on ebay but no buyer yet).
sooooo yeah....i guess time to order a new CPU 😄 and the RAM binning will have to wait 😛 ugh, this is so annoying....welp, maybe the new cpu will at least have a better IMC.
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kool, TG putty pro came in today, exactly as hoped / planned 🙂
did two stock baselines for the GPU and CPU before i get to tinkering:
5090 OC (+355/+3000) 60min Alan Wake 2 4K maxed out DLSS Qual
Core: 64.0C avg. / 65.2C max.
vRAM: 69.8C avg. / 72.2C max.
Voltage: 0.984V avg. / 1.010V max.
Fans: 1618 RPM avg. (43%) / 1638 RPM max. (44%)
Power: 529.6W avg. / 545.6W max.
Clock: 3027 Mhz avg. / 3172 Mhz max.
Load: 97.8% avg. / 99.0 % max.
vRAM usage approx. 13.3 GB
9950X3D (Full Stock, Kryonaut on IHS) 60min. CB2024 looped
Clocks (total): 4901 Mhz avg. / 4756 - 5340 Mhz Range
Vcore: 1.115V avg. / 1.074 - 1.225 V Range
CPU Pkg. Power: 199.6 W avg. / 198.4 - 200.0 W Range
CPU Temps (Tctl/Tdie): 73.1 C avg. / 71.0 - 75.0 C Range
To put the 9950X3D temps into perspective I compared the data with my previous stock 7950X:
-19 C cooler based on ambient temp delta
Radiator fans at 43% RPM with the 9950X3D vs. the 7950X (same fan curve)
Case fans at 72% RPM with the 9950X3D vs. the 7950X (same fan curve)
4901 Mhz (9950) vs. 5159 Mhz (7950) avg. Clocks = -5% lower clocks on the 9950X3D
2378CB vs. 2163 CB avg. score = +10% higher score on the 9950X3D
199.6W vs. 228.5W pkg. power = -13% pkg. power on the 9950X3D
Now you know how crazy the comparison is between 9950X3D and 7950X. It uses less than half of the RPM at 5% lower clocks and is 19C cooler, while at the same time being 10% faster!
aight now for some workout and then off to tinkering 🙂
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4 minutes ago, tps3443 said:
High voltage or low voltage the 5090’s can scale up really well I think. We just need low temps, and 1,000+ watts of power!that goes without saying! 😄 hopelessly power-starved left right n center!
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17 hours ago, tps3443 said:
If your card uses less voltage it just means it probably leaks less than 5090’s that ask for more voltage. But high voltage or low voltage does not determine how high the silicon can scale. @Papusan What does your Astralvoltage run at?
hm depends....one might argue that since im reaching 600W with far less voltage my chip is extra leaky 😄 but ure right in that i have no idea how much the voltage values this gen correlate to overclocking capabilities. i just know its currently looking quite chaotic and all over the place, hard to judge.
bumped down another 5 mhz on the core, now at +355 offset. had soft crashes / CTDs in Deliver Us Mars.
this game is quite the stability test lol
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bro @Papusan time to throw out that cheap garbage peasant Astral LC of yours, your actual 5090 sku just dropped:
with that MSRP im sure u can buy it in norway for a measly 10k+😄
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36 minutes ago, tps3443 said:
I’m not swapping my card. I absolutely love it! I feel like it’s a great example of what an FE is supposed to be. It’s quiet and It’s a low power 5090. I’m very happy with my silicon so far. I feel like Its an excellent sample, clocks can fly without crashing, of course I’m bound by power and temps right now. But I see absolutely no reason to waterblock/Shunt/OC any other GPU. We have what we have. This thing is used for playing games and work, I’m not stressing my self over finding something else. 😃
As far as binning goes with 5090’s that is a massive waste of time for me and most. But I know some people who are testing 3+ Astrals or 3+ other models and keeping whichever does best. The reality is, I think any 5090 is going to run 3,200 internally and some models may run 3,400 internally (Once shunted and on water of course)
@electrosoft Your 5080 looks perfectly fine to me though. These cards are not factory overclocked. You have essentially added +300Mhz in core and +3000 memory and gained +20 watts more. Your load voltage is even less as the card is still power limited. Notice your voltage went down with the higher overclock even though it’s 1 degree cooler and only 270 watts that card is power limited before even hitting its power limit. The is the case with all 50 series and our internal clock falls to the floor. Apparently the 5090’s can hit this limit at low 500w sometimes even 450w. You may have to do like +400 and increase all sliders to do a more fair comparison since the Astral had a maxed slider by default. It’ll probably drop voltage even more though. These cards are so artificially limited man it’s crazy. If you could flash it to the Astral 5080 bios, I think then you’d see it fly just for the extra power head room alone with 5080’s. Or shunt mod it. 😃
totally get it and i must say i agree with it. while i wouldnt have gotten an FE im also not gonna start binning 5090s lol. i know i might not have the best overclocked in this card but i also know its definitely not bottom of the barrel. sure i might be well off compared to many other ppl but doesnt mean i can pump out tens of thousands of bucks just to bin some gpus 😄 with RAM, now thats another story 😉 especially now when RAM prices seem to really bottom out!
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aight boiz, time for daddy to do some tinkering this weekend. conductonaut extreme arrived today, hopefully the TG putty pro will be here by tomorrow, as well 🙂 CPU & GPU cooling upgrade incoming!
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27 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:
Plenty of NVMe storage... GPU still PCIe 5.0 X16. Both Sabrent Quad NVMe cards running at their full Gen3 X4 speeds on both chipset X16 slots. No botched up bifurcation trash. 10 NVMe, 3 SATA.
u got enough storage there bud? 😄 (i know i know, look whos talking! 😛 glad im not the only SSD fanatic here hahaha)
9 hours ago, johnksss said:I was thinking it was already done. My bad.
As to voltage, you can try this and see if it will lock the higher voltage. You are not trying to break any records or anything, only trying to lock the voltage and move the core.
In the picture it's only 1105 because I'm not using a full screen bench test, so it slightly lowers itself. That and temps. Also that yellow line is the locked voltage point.
hm you mean to say that manually locking in a higher voltage might help push it up?
where does yours land at full stock vs. locking it in manually?
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Just now, electrosoft said:
Good find!
So silicon lottery is in play again as always.... 😞
If someone is dedicated enough I can see binning cores and memory (if we're ever allowed to exceed +3000) to compete. I mean, I'm clearly not sad for my Astral but still.
I think we always have to remember all that is promised out of the box is the advertised performance...
....we also have to remember most products also come with a 15-30 day return policy or you can sell them off (like CPUs) to friends/family/clients who will never, ever overclock and a 5090 is a 5090 is a 5090 to them.
What does your FE say boost locked with PX1 w/ and w/o 100% slider?
For me, it comes down to coil whine. I'd have to hear it at >200fps+ and TS GT2 run to see what it's working with coil whine wise. 50% fans on these FEs is definitely audible but then again I'm running an open case.
True, even the most average FE should beat a good sample 5090 if it is blocked and shunted. 🙂
Looking forward to before and after results.
no dice on unlocked vRAM OC, that is hardlocked in the vBios. so well need the XOC vBios including that special sauce software to drive it...
and yeah, can confirm from what ive seen, voltages of a card dont change when flashing different vbios versions. however, there might be different boosting behaviour in terms of power spikes that the card is allowed to do.
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wondering though if this difference in max reachable voltage actually gives u guys anything extra? especially with that power limit in place... now, where did i put that XOC vbios again....must be somewhere here..... 😛
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12 hours ago, tps3443 said:
I haven’t seen any issues with the latest drivers. I use my PC for 8 hours a day a least. I’m not sure what the deal is. Latest driver seems fine, it reduced idle clocks even further down to 22Mhz from 180Mhz. I’m not really checking any fps differences in games, maybe I should I suppose. I saw a slight improvement in Steel Nomad. Card can still reach max 1075mv. Temps sensor seems to work okay as well. I have never experienced black screens, if I add like +475 you will get a black screen from a crash. But other than that the drivers seem perfectly fine.
welp thats the sucky thing, it can get you out of nowhere, even if u had no issues beforehand whatsoever. im happily chugging along on 572.83 while others are crash n burning on it 😄 shouldnt be this way...this is not the way
11 hours ago, tps3443 said:
My last driver 572.83 definitely needed a hard reset to recover from.really sounds more and more like its driver-related then. was the hard reset overclocking related?
11 hours ago, johnksss said:Thank you @Mr. Fox ! Package arrived safe and sound and it up and running like a champ!
Okay, so i ended up selling my Gaming Trio 5090 to one of my customers and grabbed this PNY Epic from Microcenter a little while ago. And I must say i was quite surprised at it's stock bios settings.
11 hours ago, johnksss said:I'm still tripping out on the voltage. it's 1.110V! So a shunt mod would actually do this card justice or an unlocked power mod PNY vbios. I had not seen any other card with a voltage that high before.
9 hours ago, johnksss said:Before I can get to shutting it it has to be a good card to work with. And right now it's hard to say as at stock it's pulling 630W
9 hours ago, johnksss said:That's what im trying to do right now, but voltage seems to be all over the place...
duuuuude, that card looks crazy! mine only does 1.01V at stock with clocks around 2825 Mhz, with voltage slider maxed it goes up to 1.025V 😄 those voltages are insane! ive only seen maybe 1-2 other cards that can break through 1.1V, u definitely have a special one there. 3000+ Mhz at stock, crazy...
and yes ive noticed the same, voltages are all over the place, heavily depending on what ure running and even fluctuate wildly during sessions / bench runs. thats even the case if the power limit hasnt even been reached yet. not sure whats going on, hope this is smth that can be rectified with drivers / vbios updates....
overall, its total chaos when it comes to clocks and voltages, every card is so different among 5090s, both in wattage/clocks/voltage, way more variance than with the 4090.
those 630W, are those transient spikes or peak load? i might have to give your vbios a go, pls share with the class! 😄
keep us in the loop on your findings, highly interested 🙂
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11 minutes ago, electrosoft said:
5090 + 9800X3D WoW 99% utilization Stock vs OC (+300 / +3000) = ~13% uplift. Yeah, I'll take that.
I didn't realize my OC was only +300 when I took that first OC shot in Oribos so some room to play with later.
5090 OC 210fps (+300 / +3000) vs 4090 OC (+210/225 / +1500) 135fps = ~56% uplift. I'll confirm this by testing the 5080 FE here and extrapolating vs 5080 FE stock vs 4090 OC. Also test 5080 FE stock and OC in the same location too vs Astral 5090. I expect the gap to close down to ~45%
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Whoa.....
Just give it a clean install! 😁
noice! congrats! I keep telling myself the same thing with this expensive piece of gear aka Astral 5090:
"You know the last 4 cycles since the 1080ti, you've sold all your GPUs after a few years for as much if not more than you paid....6090 will probably be a train wreck....AMD sucks again for WoW compared to Nvidia with problems galore on the 9070xt....240fps in delves at 4k Ultra with the 5090"
LOL aint nobody got time for that@clean install. besides, my current setup IS pretty fresh, i installed it shortly before i got the 9950X3D, so its barely 2 months old 😛 and yes for me thats fresh, i used to do yearly clean installs, but nowadays i just go with every hardware refresh 😄 gotta prioritize that precious little freetime as a dad...
ill bide my time for now regarding drivers, 572.83 has been pretty good thus far, with the only caveat being those hard system freezes during stability testing. but since ive dialed in my D2D settings, im good.
and yeah, ive been following the same philosophy forever now: upgrade, sell off parts, add some pocket money here and there, ready to go for the next upgrade cycle 🙂 works like a charm!
so lets see, next steps in tuning for me would be:
- get like 5-10 RAM kits in the 8000-8400 range (incl a CUDIMM 9600 kit, just out of curiosity) and bin them for my CPU/mobo combo
- get some TG thermal putty pro and fill out the gap beneath the backplate for some thermal improvements. after checking igorslab review, specifically thermal conductivity of the thermal pads and paste on the vRAM/VRMs/core, wouldnt make much sense to take the card apart and replace those. but backplate is no biggie, should shave off a few degrees here and there i reckon.
- get some TG conductonaut extreme and delid my 9950X3D before doing some ocing on it. the way i see it, with binned RAM and an overclocked 5090, ill likely need all the CPU juice i can get to be able and keep up!
so much to do, so little time....
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8 hours ago, electrosoft said:
lol, I'm just glad to have a new testing spot that can cap out this 5090. My old spot, especially overclocked, just had the 5090 giggling....
"MSI Suprim 6090 with 48gb of memory now on sale for $3999.99!!"
I'll be curious to see your results, but since 576.02 zero hard reboots. I just give it a few seconds after freezing and it recovers.
I will readily admit, I didn't expect the 5090 to have the extra room in the tank....
Oh, TSE is my overnight 6hr run since it simulates a max length (in theory) gaming session for moi. My final boss. It is probably a holdover from when I used to use P95 for my CPUs and an hour or so would pass, but 5-6hrs would root out instabilities. Same as my CPU and memory final stress tests. If I can pass a 6hr run, I are super golden to my standards. I can't get onboard for 24hr runs for some reason like others for CPU/GPU/MEM. 1/4 of that is MORE than enough for myself.
Still, an hour is probably good enough..... 😁
duuuude....who TF came up with that silly idea to update drivers?! OMFG! i just spent several hours getting my system to properly boot up again!
so i ran DDU to prepare for the 576.15 install, rebooted aaaand....blackscreen O.o
switched to iGPU....still blackscreen. BUT WAIT, i can see the mouse cursor! at least sometimes LOL
but no dice, had to use my lady's machine, prep a win RE usb drive, manually inject AMD RAID drivers to access my storage, then tried to run system restore, STILL NO DICE.
so i ran startup repair and....finally an image! then i reran system restore from before running DDU inside the system and now all is well again.
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, im sticking to 572.83 for the time being. seems to me that DDU isnt up to snuff yet with the latest drivers, holy guacamole what a shit show NVIDIA! fix ur crap!
/rant
oh, on the bright side: sold my 4090 on fleabay for 90% of the price i paid for it 2.5 years ago 😛 its going off to bella italia!
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3 hours ago, electrosoft said:
We found it! 5090 99% Utilization in WoW even overclocked!
Oribos, my old friend (Shadowlands) to the rescue! The former stomping ground of GPU slaying rises up once more. 🙂
This will be my new test spot for GPUs in WoW from this point on. If it can bring a 5090 OC'd to its knees (well, I mean 210fps but still), can't wait to see how the 5080 FE does....
HA! A SINGLE SPOT WITH 99% GPU AND BELOW 240 FPS! 6090 JUSTIFIED! 🤣
3 hours ago, electrosoft said:TSE GT2 has been the bane of my existence for quite some time. It can also wake up a card and make it sing a bit especially TS GT2 which can hit hard too.
lol, that's true on the locked voltages. Suprim has the beef too.
Yep, every crash I've had testing OC's with 576.02 (I see 576.15 is out now), resulted in a freeze, black screen, typical beep of disconnect/connect and then the image came back to life enough to either actually continue on or enough to just close it out. No manual reboots/resets.
9000 series runs better than 7000 + the WW2 era tank heatsinks on these things = quieter running and good temps even OC'd. Like I said in a previous post, I've actually pushed my fps up to 238fps locked now because the coil whine is so good on this Astral.
"the bane of my existence" had to rofl at that 😄 as i said, VERY curious to see the results with my current oc, will keep u in the loop.
for me its been hard freezes requiring a reboot every. single. time. not even one recovery thus far! very annoying!
while playing Deliver Us Mars yesterday i marveled at the clocks, i was basically running the same 3030-3100 Mhz core clocks as with the 4090 before, only now with 33% more cores and GDDR7 pushed to 34 Gbps....this is just pure, unadultared fun! 😄
edit: hate to burst ur TSE bubble, but i just passed a 1h loop of it at my +360 core oc 😄 all good!
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33 minutes ago, electrosoft said:
It really comes down to having the ability to extract as much performance as possible out of your 5090 by being able to flash vBIOS from other makes and models without being restricted by Nvidia. I mean, it is their in house model being offered so I get it, but they've done this before.
No way I'd run 1k as a daily, but fun benchies? Yes please. Beefy enough heatsink to handle it? Double yes please.
As @jaybee83 pointed out, lack of dual bios on the FE is a negative too just in case.....
The blessings of the FE HSF design is also its curse. Absolutely great for SFF, compact to fit most cases and quite beautiful and stunning in person (I also thought the 4090 FE was an absolutely stunning slab of industrial metal). It's curse is limited thermals resulting in much higher temps overall at similar settings for both memory and GPU temps. In spec? Sure, but it limits you. You can't out Physics, er, Physics...
For me, a monster heatsink just lets me run a full tilt D2D OC and not have to worry about extreme temps. If I could keep my room cooler, that would mean even better temps.... that screen shot of a few hours of WoW where my room was heading closer to 90 than 80 still were great temps in the sauna box. If I could keep my room at 70f? Mmmmmmm. Maybe I should get a window AC unit....
For me, it will always be 3Dmark TSE GT2 that for some reason looped will eventually get my GPU. I use Heaven when tuning on the fly to see when I start to artifact but I've found recently on 4090 and especially 5090 I don't really artifact. I just freeze/blank and sometimes recover (recover almost all the time with 576.02). I used to use Kombustor (aka Furmark'ish) but not recently. Then I throw games at it but only the games I play. My general rule is, "I'm stable till the next new game."
For WoW, I use that high GPU location, and in previous Xpacs back to Shadowlands, I used Ardenweald which just brutalized my GPUs and hit so hard. I need to revisit that. I did also use Wukong this last time. Fallout 76 can't tax anything lol and it ran fine up to +400 / +3000 at max settings to give you an idea.
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5090 is just a beast. It really is. I'm pretty much locked into a +325/+3000 D2D now and playing WoW earlier with the wife and that extra bit of ooomph does help shore up the lows a bit more. Since coil wine on this card is so good, I've abandoned 140fps frame lock and now keep it at a proper +238fps for my 240hz OLED display. There's pockets when playing, especially delves, where it is so silky smooth....
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Again, locked down BIOS controls and no dual bios switch? Hmmmm....
For $2k though, like @tps3443, I'd rock it six ways to sundown all day everyday.... 🤣
some very interesting points u made here, sir!
first up, ill give TSE GT2 looped a go, curious to see what happens 😄 will report back. and yes, i follow the same logic, its stable until the next game / application 😄
1kW vbios daily, you say? thats what i did with my 4090 for....i dunno, close to two years? flashed it right when it came out, never looked back 😄 as mentioned, the locked voltage helps keep things in check 🙂 although i DO expected the 5090 to probably max out even a 1kW vbios in some cases LOL with the 4090 i "only" went up to like 750-800W in some usage scenarios. BUT, cooling on the 5090 is even beefier, so im catiously optmistic in this regard. nevertheless, its all talk until we actually get to stretch out gpu legs, power limit wise...
the recovery point u bring up is VERY interesting. i am currently scratching my head a bit as to why the 5090 cannot recover from an unstable OC. the 4090 did so very competently, but with the 5090 thus far i only get a system freeze that i need to manually reset. otherwise no dice. u say this is not the case with 576.02? might be driver related then... i might give 576.15 a go, now that the temp sensor issue seems to be fixed.
5090 is a beast indeed. and i can only repeat myself: i am astounded at how quiet my battlestation is under full load with the 9950X3D + 5090, never thought this was possible...
admittedly, havent oced the CPU yet, but its also still full stock, not delidded yet 😄 still lots to do!
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7 hours ago, electrosoft said:
Yeah I'm at +3000 / +325 for pure stability without adding any PL/V fans on auto which is how I would run it D2D gaming/rendering. Stress testing, I started at +400 and that quickly dropped to +350 and extended testing dialed it to +325.
Next will be retesting with PL/V limits pushed to max. (You know, the "hard stuff" 🤣)
Might need to dial in a "Winter Mode" and "Summer Mode" at this rate of hades. 🤣
lol nah i couldnt be bothered with such seasonal profiles 😄 i just want a stable D2D OC once all the initial tuning is done 🙂 did the same, started with a quick n dirty +300/+350/+400, noticed 400 onwards was unstable so now backing down bit by bit. currently at +360 and stable thus far.
what were ur last stress tests that showed instability on your side?
did a bunch of transcoding yesterday without issues. fun fact: on the 4090 i couldnt do transcoding and gaming at the same time, gpu clocks would be locked to idle or slightly above that (dont as me why, no idea to this day!) and system RAM usage would max out. now with my new SSD setup (PCIe 4.0 vs. SATA before for media storage) and the 5090 system RAM usage is only at 50% and gpu clocks are unaffected. sooooo, gaming session while transcoding in the background, thats the stuff! 🙂
4 hours ago, tps3443 said:Nvflashk from Kefi works just fine on 50 series but that was just re-flashing my original bios back on. I have an Astral bios I may give it a try. I just hate to brick the card over being dumb. I do not see why it would not work. And worst-case scenario I would have to flash blindly flash back to my original. "I think so anyways" It is so nerve racking doing this though.
If you flash your 5080FE to Astral let me know if it works. 😁
yup i feel ya. wanna enjoy the card a bit before doing too much non-stock tinkering on it haha 😄 besides, as of yet not really worth it without an XOC vbios. as u mentioned, the only vbios worth trying atm would be the Astral one, ive seen some user reports with up to 5% perf. boost going from stock vbios oced to stock astral vbios. seemed a bit sus to me, esp. since it was a lower-tier card (dont rembember, i think it was a palit? or a tuf?), but worth investigating.
in any case, thats what a dual vbios card is for, no risk of bricking 🙂 one of the reasons why an FE would never end up in my shopping basket.
2 hours ago, tps3443 said:If my baby 5090 is okay at 600w. 5080 are probably more than okay at 450w should be a walk in the park.
XOC 5090 is a mine field though. 5090 XOC= Shunt mod + Chilled water. These cards are going to draw some serious power from that dinky cable. Running this daily nonchalant like would be terrifying I think. I would give cables a 1 plug life span to avoid cable debris. Maybe even run one of those 4x8 pin to 12 pin cables.
even with a 1kW XOC vbios the card would be voltage limited far before there would be any risk of it going up in flames (naturally, assuming psu/cable is up to snuff lol).
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another game = another stress test 😄
i just started playing Deliver Us Mars and turns out my core OC aint stable. so back to the drawing board!
just thought Id let you guys know in case ure looking for a nice stability test for gpu oc 😛
stable thus far (increasing order of difficulty to get OC stable)
Alan Wake 2
Titanfall 2
3DM Speedway
Unity Enemies
and now Deliver Us Mars. 60 min. each btw at 4K maxed out.
edit: and done, lost -10 Mhz on the core OC to get it stable in Deliver Us Mars. Now for some gaming without crashes 🙂
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so i installed gpu tweak III after bro @Mr. Fox pointer and also some reports that the enhanced OC setting might allow for higher vRAM OC. no dice tho, still only capable of +3000 or up to 34 Gbps. uninstalled again, sticking with PX1.
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impressive! which gigabyte vbios sku are u using? xtreme waterforce or master?
i scoured through the 5090 TPU reviews and saw smth interesting:
While the 20ms power spikes are basically the same with all SKUs, the maximum wattage with raytracing or maximum overall are quite different:
Maximum overall:
640W - Gigabyte Gaming OC
636W - Asus Astral
636W - Palit Gamerock
629W - Asus Astral LC
611W - MSI Suprim LC
608W - MSI Suprim SOC
607W - Asus Tuf
601W - Nvidia FE
Max. Raytracing:
596W - Asus Astral LC
595W - Asus Tuf
585W - Gigabyte Gaming OC
561W - Asus Astral
561W - Palit Gamerock
561W - MSI Suprim LC
561W - MSI Suprim SOC
561W - Nvidia FE
Avg. of both:
612.5W - Gigabyte Gaming OC
612.5W - Asus Astral LC
601W - Asus Tuf
598.5W - Asus Astral
598.5W - Palit Gamerock
586W - MSI Suprim LC
584.5W - MSI Suprim SOC
581W - Nvidia FE
Ofc im aware that cooling also plays a role here, but might be an indicator that some vbios versions allow for, lets say "more flexible" 600+ W outliers than others. meaning they dont enforce the 600W limit as hard 🙂
from what ive seen thus far, Astral and Gigabyte (Xtreme / Master) vbios versions seem to be the user favorites in terms of benchmark scores.
edit: w00t w00t! the new 9950X3D will arrive tomorrow, so will be back in business soon 🙂