jaybee83

40 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I played a bit of BF 2042 last night and the 9070 XT is boosting to like 3375, most of the time running 3100-3200 MHz. This is with a -0.060 undervolt and +10% power limit. Leaving it on stock defaults it is like 1.100V and rarely boosting to 3000. Definitely need to crack this thing open and see what I can do with the temps. Especially the memory. They've got the wrong pads or something. I haven't seen video memory temps this high since cryptomining with the 3090 KPE.

 

9070 XT handle BF2042 at 4K with maxed out settings without issue. FPS range from about 70 to 120 with an average of around 90 FPS.

good topic to mention, as opposed to the 4090 im definitely planing to pimp up the cooling on the 5090, seeing as our best chance to do overclocking is keeping the card as cool as possible (or shunt modding, which is not an option for me).

in this context i was thinking of going putty all around and also covering the complete backside of the gpu to make use of the metal backplate.

in this context i need some input from you bros  @Mr. Fox  @Papusan or anyone else with regards to the gpu core: would u recommend going liquid metal, PTM7950 / graphene pad or a highend paste like Duronaut (just got in a batch of that for testing).

trying to balance cooling performance and the need for maintenance on this one. liquid metal should give the best results, although on the much larger GPU silicon the temp drops shouldnt be as significant as on a CPU i imagine. but with LM ill run the risk of having to repaste after a few months due to dry out. id like to avoid that after having plastered putty all over the PCB 😛 so best to do a one and done kinda deal 😄 

any input appreciated 🙂 

14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

on a tangentially related note: i looooooooooooooooove Kirsten Dunst 😍 (and yes my wife knows 😛 😄)

edit: back on topic, payment went through and received order confirmation from the french shop for the 5090 suprim 🙂 now to wait until the next batch of cards comes in, should be end of this / beginning of next week.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Maybe consider parting your current system out. Probably make more money, and sell things faster. 4090’s are in high DEMAND! Especially the nicer ones.

oh im not planning to sell my whole system 😄 so itll definitely be just the parts im upgrading: CPU, SSDs, GPU

and yes, im quite optimistic about landing a good price for my 4090 with current market conditions 🙂 

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

If you have an established account at overclock.net I would first list the items in the marketplace here and at overclock.net so you can bypass the fees from peeBay and PayPal. You can count on losing 10% or charging at least 10% more than what you actually want/need to offset the fees. I haven't needed to sell anything on peeBay since I started selling in forum marketplaces.

no account at overclock.net, have just been a lurker these past few years. but i might do a thread in the marketplace here 🙂 

46 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Congrats brother. Nice you got what you wanted. It's typical that France and China shops often get more cards than rest of the other countries. And people in these regions are often the first to get hold in the newest tech. If you see etc new gen HOF cards, be you sure it will pop up in China and France before all other places. 

 

NVIDIA continues to dig deep with its drivers: users unite, frustrated, and launch massive bug reports, all RTX affected

 

RTX 40 GPU owners suffering from BSODs and crashes complain about Nvidia's RTX 50 focus

huh i had no idea about france in this context! good to know, will expand my hardware searches to french shops then. thats the good thing about the EU, aside from shipping no extra tax/customs for imported goods 🙂 

28 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Did you grab a 5090? 😬

yessir 😁

1 minute ago, electrosoft said:

w00t!!!

 

Patience and holding the line wins!

 

 

 

abso-frigging-lutely! never ordered at this french shop before, but trustpilot gives it a 96% positive rating with 200k+ reviews, so i think im good 😄 

cheapest available in germany was 300€ more, with most offers at 500€ more than what i paid now. can definitely live with that 🙂 

now to prepare my 7950X, 4090 Suprim and the V1 AM5 IHS for sale on fleabay. Those together with my SSDs should bring in the 5090 price easily, with 1k+ to spare (good savings baseline for the 6090 LOL)

aight boiz, the wait is at an end!

for the first time EVER, a notification system actually WORKED 😄 

while i was re-installing the soft cover of my little princess car seat after washing (was about time, that thing was NASTY, crumbs n stains galore 😄 ), i glanced at my phone and there it was: an in-stock notification for the RTX 5090 Suprim (Air) at a reputable french online shop!

Transferred funds, finalized order, wham bam thank you ma`am! 

And just in time, as well, their supply was sold out inside of 10 min.

Current info I have is that it will be prepared and shipped out inside of 7 days, should be good!

PS: ah yes, pricing LOL. so that was about 160€ below my budgeting limit 🙂 

19 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

See if the 2200 can handle a 90 min TM5 and an hour of Karhu at least. Worst case, fun benches. Best case, stable D2D at 2200!

 

Agreed, 9000 series runs cooler and better than 7000. I had a 9950x3d ready for checkout on BB, but just couldn't justify it but 9800X3D vs my old 7800X3D it is much better across the board in every aspect. I can just imagine how much better the 9950X3D would be vs my old 7950X3D and the 7950X3D was known for running cooler and better than the 7950X.

 

When you lop off its head, results are gonna be quite nice! Looking forward to some memory/cpu comparison data of the 7950X vs your 9950X3D.

yup, TM5 is my go-to to dial in D2D FCLK overclocks, works like a charm with the anta777 absolut config 🙂 same goes for D2D RAM OC including subtimings.

16 hours ago, tps3443 said:

RTX 5090’s are under-volting pretty well. Essentially, it’s up to silicon quality. You can’t really crash so easily with this generation. The card will run its max clock speed for that selected voltage and the GPU seems to have an idea of what that clock speed max for that set voltage should be, or at least on the newest drivers it seems like it knows.

 

Definitely can bring power way down for a GPU that’s overkill in practically every game right out of the box (Especially 4K+200% upscaled to 8K. This GPU is a MONSTER for MS Flight Sim 8K, and the RTX4090 could already get it done at 50-60fps)
 

So far, I have set a 2.9Ghz @0.900MV in MSI Afterburner and I shaved off 110 watts of power, and about 10c in temps. These cards use way more voltage stock than they really need. You’ve got to think we idle on the desktop around 0.800mv. So, we can almost apply the full stock boost clock speed of the RTX 5090 FE with nearly the idle voltage. 
 

Steel Nomad scored 14,500

noice. out of curiosity, what would be ur max frequency at the minimum 800mV core voltage?

On 3/21/2025 at 8:43 PM, Mr. Fox said:

And, this CPU is better than the one in the Gene. It can handle 2200 FCLK. The other 9950X won't boot at 2200. It caps out at 2175. I am going to have the check the SP rating and see how it works on an ASUS mobo that has better voltage control. That will have to wait for another day. I'll likely wait until the APEX drops and then delid it.

 

 

keep us posted on the SP ratings for both your 9950X cpus, im highly interested.

i was literally SHOCKED when i saw the load temps on my stock lidded 9950X3D with CB2024 and CB R23... 200W package load maxed out at a measly 76C, with average temps even lower. at first i thought i mightve messed something up with the fan settings in bios after upgrading, but nope...it is just THAT much colder, absolutely insane. my 7950X easily broke 90C, sometimes creeping up to 94-95C depending on the ambient temps.

delidding and swapping out the IHS should result in craaaaazy OC headroom, both for CPU and RAM 🙂 

On 3/20/2025 at 8:18 PM, jaybee83 said:

aight boiz my trigger finger is itching. starting to see offers on ebay (would never buy there, retail shops only!) and also found a shop in france that sell the Suprim SOC barely 300€ above my spending limit i set for myself for this card. its getting interesting!

offers popping up at just +100€ over my budgeting limit....

11 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Come on, it's just a graphics card. I think I'm a lot less excited now than when I got the 4090's like  the Suprim and the HOF. The performance boost from the 4090 over the 3090 was just legendary. Not so much this time with the new overpriced refresh from Nvidia. And I won't even use the new MFG feature nvidia bragging about (5070 beat 4090). 

 

What I'm most excited about is seeing if the idiots from the shipping company have trashed the original box. I took a few pictures when I picked up the package in the post office. 

 

yeah ure right...best to just send it back and get a refund, not worth all the fuss 😛😉 

hope the internal box is alright! ugh...

26 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Hmmm.  I got a big box stamped with several Asus stickers. Could that be..... One of the very rare and overpriced 5000 series Nvidia graphics cards?😀 

 

 

 

oh shut it, ure such a tease 😄 

aight boiz my trigger finger is itching. starting to see offers on ebay (would never buy there, retail shops only!) and also found a shop in france that sell the Suprim SOC barely 300€ above my spending limit i set for myself for this card. its getting interesting!

its here boiiiiiiz

time to update bios, chipset & igpu drivers, set up process lasso (not taking any chances) and then see what this chip can do 🙂 

also got myself a V2 AM5 thermal grizzly high performance heatspreader. u might remember that they changed the manufacturing on these, with the new version performing 5C lower than the initial release.

8 hours ago, Reciever said:

new threads (in the news section) as it allows for SEO scrapers to find the headline which leads to more people posting in those threads. It was in my view the main reason why OCN had the audience that it had in its hayday.

nice, lets push our little forum to new popularity heights andgive those reddit clowns a run for their money 😄  

5 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Hi just need to wrap in his 5090 FE😀 No need to change out that tiny 12V-2x6 power cable. Or just send over the card to  @Maxware79 for some color change.

 

 

 

 

 

omg....why would anyone do that. i hope the owner of that card is aware that the wrap is basically suffocating the metal fins on that card 😅

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Well it looks like Safedisk got handed another extraordinary silicon sample, as usual. I wonder how many ASUS had to bin and cull to find this one. Unless you have one this good I don't think it's possible to find much benefit in owning an X870E Apex if you have an average 9950X/X3D sample. $800 is too costly to justify with an average CPU. The Gene gave me no real benefit over the Cabron other than the crappy gamerboy MSI firmware that is missing important settings.

 

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29442873/

 

About 2,000 points higher than my best.

 

Speaking of bin quality, I need to do more testing to confirm it, but I think my second 9950X might be a lot better than the first one installed in the Gene.

keep those deetz coming on how the new one is treating ya!

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

My job has become really demanding. And in my free time I just like to game or spend time with my family. I popped in the 5090fe bone stock and went right at playing KDC II, I haven’t ran a single benchmark on it yet 😂

yup i feel ya. with the little princess around and job starting back up in april (end of my parental leave), the little freetime i have is mostly spend with a bit of quality alone time with my lady, as well as playing games. but i recently started compiling a new benchmark suite to get some base numbers on my current setup before new CPU / GPU arrive 😛 

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sn/971066/sn/4521744/sn/60378#

 

damn thats crazy, right smack between the 3090 Ti and 4090, talk about bang per buck!

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Grabbed the ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral LC OC - 32GB - $2,966.35 USD today. 1 out of 3 card was available for the whole scandinavian market (4 countries). Next delivery of 5090 cards from the retail shops... Unknown.

 

Loads of 5070's is ofloaded today here home. And a few 5070Ti and 5080. I see there is still  3 out of 10 pc of Asus 5080 Astral OC available for purchase here home now 6.5 hour after the slip. $1660 USD. I think Asus have reached the limits what they can sell their 5080 flagship for right now. I doub't they increase the prices in the pace they have done. And no other brands 5080 is listed yet youcan buy Asus 5080 cards. That speak loudly about the price point Asus want. As a side note... Gigabyte want $1730 for their best 5080. Not sure what'sup with Gigabyte this gen cards. 

 

The cards should be delivered to Papusan's plaza within the next 5-7 days. And exactly the card I tried to buy. 

 

 

 

dude, congratz! im jealous, although the stream of 5090s available for purchase has been quite constant recently, MSI cards are few and far between. most of them are basic zotac / gainward / palit cards, which i have zero interest in. and the few MSIs are either ventus / gaming trio or the liquid SOC. the only place im seeing the air cooled SOC is on ebay, ugh...

im like you in this regard, when spending such a huge amount of money i damn well sure get the card i actually want!

anyways, my 9950X3D will be arriving tomorrow, so thats nice at least 🙂 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Locking down XOC on the 5090 even more......

 

Nvidia = Anti-fun

 

Turned down a Ventus 5090 OC today for $2650+tax.... Remember when it was launched at $2199? *sigh*

 

dayum...so that makes the 5090 even less enticing, considering were basically comparing stock 5090s at 600W to fully unlocked and OCed 4090s.... ugh

but then again...everything will be leaked sooner or later 😛 

9 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I listed my Intel B580 Steel Legend OC and originally started at $200 dollars shipped. Minimal interest, and then I bumped it to $250 and sold it right away after changing the price.

LOL they probably thought it was a scam cuz it was TOO cheap and once u bumped it up it came into the realm of "possibility" of it being real 😄 crazy times

50 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Worth shunt modding my RTX 4090 mobile? Have you performed this mod on any laptops yet? 😃 I may give this a try for fun! I may definitely have to do this on my RTX 5090 FE as well if I want more than 600w. 

sure hope ure planning to put a waterblock on it then....the stock cooler is already at its limits out of the gate 😅

13 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I received these and got them set up on my work rig. Just... wow... much better display quality than my older ASUS 4K 120Hz display, and these actually even look nicer when turned off. The ASUS screen has a wide bezel and ugly chassis with absurd RGB garbage on the back and a chintzy snap on plastic panel that makes accessing the connections inconvenient. I have never been overly thrilled with how it looks sitting on my desk. (Typical tacky-looking ASUS aesthetics.) And, I don't like that is uses a power brick like a turdbook. That is the only monitor I have owned that is made that way and it sucks.

 

nice loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong desktop 😄 yeah the image quality is something u may read a lot about in reviews but i find it something different still to actually experience it in person 🙂 enjoy those new displays!

13 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

7900xtx is still a beast, period.

 

Still trading blows with the 4080 and 5080 in raster and the 9070xt at best can match it but usually loses in raster plus you get 24GB.

 

Blocking and pushing 600w? Definitely let's see those results. 🙂

ikr, lets see what an AMD RTX-4090 equivalent would look like on equal power footing!

10 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Sad seeing Intel go for a bean counter. This doesn't bode well... Intel hires former board member as new CEO  

 

Intel CEO’s Finance Background Might Be Behind 11% Share Price Jump Following Announcement

 

Like his predecessor, Lip-Bu has extensive experience in the semiconductor industry. An MIT graduate, the new Intel CEO also has a background in finance through having worked at an investment and venture capital firms.

welp....this just goes to show how dire the situation must be at Intel that they go the bean counter route now....ugh

23 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Let me know how the Apex X870 board is. Are these white or black? 
 

I definitely see why you got the 18” Raider now for sure though. 4090 Mobile is on point for the next few years. Your battery life and temps must be pretty good with the AMD chip. I’d love to have a AMD X3D laptop chip with RTX4090 Max Q! 🤤

 

 

PS:

 

Someone made a poll of the Nvidia priority access. 
 

https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQ6J6kne/results

LOL i had to laugh hard at this, so basically owning a 4090 absolutely MAXIMIZES your chances of "winning" that 5090 purchase lottery... thats crazy.

322 out of total 820 4090 owners got an email, thats 39.3%

37 out of 1847 non-4090 owners got en email, thats 2.0%

thus, owning a 4090 increases your chances by 20-fold(!!!), insane 😄 

29 minutes ago, Reciever said:

I think I'll just sit pretty with my 5800X3D and 7900 XTX. 

 

If anything if I were to pour money into this hobby on the gaming side I'll probably get that ElmorLabs EVC2SE, waterblock and vBIOS to see if I could daily 600w on the Red Devil 7900 XTX. 

 

recently picked up some PTM7950 to see how well it reduces the hotspot temps, might do that this weekend.

 

Also repurposed the 10850K to be my unraid server 🙂

please do keep us posted with 600W+ 7900XTX results and how the PTM7950 is treating ya, very curious on those results! 🙂 

aaaand managed to place a third order, now 25 bucks BELOW MSRP! this is a good day 😁😎

Nvidia, take notes: THIS is how u do supply and sales!!!

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Congrats, brother. Super happy you got what you wanted. I love when that happens.

Nope. No interest in 5090 now, and especially not  an FE engineering abortion. Plus, I don't want to reward NVIDIA for being a scummy outfit.

 

You honestly don't need one. Save your money for something better later on. Minus DLSS 4 and extra fake frames it produces it's not a meaningful upgrade to 4090. If you take those things away it's not that much of an upgrade, even though the ginormous price tag suggests otherwise.

The X3D processors are of no special value outside of gaming, but they are the undisputed king in that area.

Everyone else is better served with an ordinary CPU with core parking disabled.

 

If they are cherry-picking binned silicon for the 9950X3D that might interest me, but we haven't seen enough of them in the wild to know if they overclock significantly higher than non-3D 99550X. If they can do 6.0GHz or higher on all 16 cores that would impress me enough to buy one. Not sure why they did not use 3D cache on both CCDs. That might have been more interesting. Relying on a crap OS like Winduhz 11 to identify the game and manage the CPU behavior is stupid IMHO. If the entire CPU (all CCDs) were equally binned and using cache, with core parking disabled that might be a real hell-raiser CPU. Having only one CCD on cache is a turn-off because it relies on drivers and software to function properly, and expecting it to function properly 100% of the time is probably unrealistic. Having to use a POS OS like Winduhz 11 with special patches and software in order to enable the functionality kills the idea instantly for me.

snatched a second one at MSRP and cancelled the first one, 30 bucks saved! 😄😄😄

i was actually thinking of you bro Fox when reading through the 9950X3D reviews. its regularly beating the 9950X at the same power budget, it seems they kept all the high bin chiplets for this sku (both X3D and non-X3D chiplets). the X3D clocks up to 5.55, with the non-X3D going to 5.7. funny enough, at the stock power budget of 200W the all core clocks 100-150 Mhz higher than the regular 9950X, pointing to improved V/F curves.

so the X3D part MIGHT actually overclock better. wanna give it a shot? 😏😁

16 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I assume the bots will buy all of these. Good luck! 9950X3D looks amazing! 

boom. snagged one 8 minutes in at 4% above MSRP. can totally live with that 😄 could be here by end of this week! w00t w00t!

edit: LOL damn i think i was lucky / fast this time around. the shop i got it from was sold out inside of 3 minutes 😄 

edit2: no wait, they just got in more supply. enjoy the race, folks! 😄 

edit3: aaand theyre gone again....total 7 minutes in stock lulz

edit4: aaaand another supply drip just in. ok, enough with these edits!

anyone else here on the hunt?

color me impressed! definitely worth the wait, about 30-40% uplift in games vs. my 7950X and even in productivity it regularly beats the 9950X!

take a wild guess what ill be doing tomorrow:

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, I snagged one. I guess I will find out tomorrow morning if my order gets cancelled again. This one has a vapor chamber, thermal putty and what looks like 9 heat pipes. $700, which it think is good for the better overall build quality. Hopefully it will be worth it. 3100MHz boost, 2520MHz memory and 340W TDP. Same advertised specs as the Taichi OC (but no nasty arson power cable) and XFX Mercury OC.

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R9070XTAORUS-E-16GD#kf

nice, thats pretty good value for 100 bucks more.