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Sympathetic as i am to these sentiments, they add security when they add bloat. Eventually they fix the stuff they broke and regain speed they lost. I'm tempted to try Tiny11 but the last thing i want to do is play with computers after working on them all day.
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So Webroot wasn't to blame for everything, though some weirdness in Visual Studio cleared up with it gone. After removing it, i turned off daily reboots to see if it solved the issue on the Clevo machines. They still eventually slowed to a crawl after a day to 2 weeks. I probably had coincidental issues with Windows bogging down and the firmware update on the mobile cpu machine. I've currently got all of them on oem video drivers with Ge Force Experience uninstalled. The one that does my wake-up alarm playlist still does the daily reboot, the others aren't bad enough to be worse than a minor annoyance. Ain't Windows wonderful?...
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Chrome wouldn't run on x170 when I first got it, so I switched to Edge. I like it well enough. Firefox always struck me as a little clunky but i routinely have to use all 3 to fix something that works in one but not another.
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Well, something about enabling overclocking and setting back to optimized default appears to have restored its baseline performance. 🤞¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Yeah i don't load Msi stuff, just Outlook and Sql Server. All the behavior i've seen makes me think Msft imposed some arbitrary threshold. Just my gut...
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Undervolt is slightly slower. Otherwise behavior is the same, performance is ok for a few minutes after boot if startup programs don't load. After loading them, it slows down dramatically, but only for unzipping huge files. Probably would be the same for other sustained heavy use. I went back to optimized defaults with high performance.
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I didn't see anything in bios, that's why i asked Msi. I'll check the video. thx
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I was unfair in characterizing their response that way. Throttlestop has change options greyed out, Xtu says the platform doesn't support it. Some of the traffic i saw was Asus users. It started with the Windows update, but firmware is involved for some. There's a fair bit of noise in general from users about Windows 11 performance. Oems may prevail on Msft to do something if they've killed off a product category...
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Msi says life is hard, then you die... "Dear Customer, that means your particualar CPU cannot be overclocked. It is part of the silicon lottery draw when it was manufactuered by Intel." I see support traffic saying people were able to overclock before a recent bios update. If i were earlier in my career, i'd be looking for a luggable. I'll live with this one as my last dtr notebook.
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I'm not crazy about changing the cpu defaults to get back to baseline, but i'll do it if it saves me 5 minutes on unzip. Xtu says overclocking's disabled. I've got a ticket open with Msi. 🤞🤓🥂
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I reinstalled Windows when i got it and never had that installed. I'll try it.
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It appears that Windows throttles mobile cpu more aggressively since ~~ February 2024. It makes notebooks unsuited for use as workstations for me.
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After. I'm done with it. I'm not looking for a hobby... thanks for the suggestions. It's still faster overall than the x170, just not as much so. It's just unzipping huge files where it throttles.
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Can't find anything telling me it should be something other than what it is...
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Well, no, nothing i did solved it. At some point between 5 minutes and 18 hours after reboot, unzip performance degrades 500%. But only on the mobile cpu, desktop cpus keep the same performance level. On the plus side, I've cleaned out a bunch of old stuff i never use, trimmed startup services, and excluded work folders from indexing and a/v. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I've been suspicious of Copilot for some time, that it was the bloat that came in the February updates and started my performance issues.
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Btw, any Macrium Reflect users, be sure to check periodically that it's still licensed. It uses some trigger from Windows to determine that it's on a new machine. If it decides the license is no longer valid, it stops doing backups without telling you. I like it but that's annoying.
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Just anecdotally, the performance issues i was having were the same with or without allback. Windows went south after NT5, aka Windows 2000. The problem is you need to pay developers to keep Linux current. Didn't somebody just hack its back door?
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The unzip weirdness mystery is solved. Something about using displayport to hdmi converter to connect to an old tv was the culprit. probably caused Webroot's issues.
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Don't use its displayport to connect to a 5 year old tv's hdmi. It causes some weird backup that degrades performance.
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Webroot. Geez... it was the first thing i checked but something made me think that wasn't it. uninstalled and performance is back to normal. unzip is still weird but within normal range. sheesh.
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So when i got the Titan, it was 20% faster than the Clevo X170KM-G with i9-11900K. Now it's 20% slower. It's a very expensive salesman's powerpoint laptop...
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yeah. same result.
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That just gets me back to pre-reset... it gives me a few minutes after reboot to use the cpu. after that, which may be 15 minutes or 90, it throttles immediately.
