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  1. Aaron44126
    The fans are controlled by the Dell embedded controller. The Radeon software can't do anything about them. You do have some options for manual control. SpeedFan or HWiNFO64 can be used to set the fan speed, plus some tools that I produced (but don't maintain anymore) linked in signature.
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    Yeah, I looked at doing that but it says my license is not eligible for renewal a second time. They must have some time cap on how far you can push it out.
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    CrossOver 23.7 is out today with GPTK 1.1 and MSync built-in. MSync is a new-ish Wine synchronization feature designed specifically for macOS and has been shown to drastically improve performance in some games (CPU-constrained games in particular, I think). Here, Andrew Tsai shows Cyberpunk 2077 going from mid-30's FPS to 80+ FPS when MSync is turned on (but "more investigation required"). CodeWeavers has really been on a roll with their CrossOver 23.x release updates. I've thought about this, but they are known to offer good sales every year around Black Friday / Cyber Monday... If you can get a one-year extension each year for ≈$10, I'll take that over paying hundreds for a lifetime license.
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    I knew about the CodeWeavers sale but didn't realize that you could "renew" early like this. Following your lead, I just went and bought a cheap year extension even though my license was not up until August 2024 (now August 2025). Hopefully this works every year!
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    GeForce 1070 will not work in a Precision M6800 unless you are wanting to just run Linux, or are willing to really get down and muck with the BIOS to get past a Windows ACPI BSOD.
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    Oh, I don't know which specific GPUs are impacted or not impacted since I've only ever worried about NVIDIA, but I saw enough posts on the matter over at NBR to know that having the fans fail to kick on for newer "unsupported" AMD GPUs is a known/common thing in these systems. Don't take for granted that it will "just work".
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    Nice. Like I’ve been saying, there are obviously issues with these things “as a PC” (lack of upgradeability, high SSD prices, software compatibility issues, not-quite-ideal keyboard layout that I’m still getting used to, etc.) but “as a laptop” it really offers an experience that can’t be beat by a Windows system. The only times I have heard the fans in my M2 Max 16” are when running benchmarks or demanding 3D games. Gaming with ANC headphones makes it a non-issue (even though I think the fans are quieter than my Precisions were). They never make a peep in other workloads I have tried, including moderate ones like doing photo work in Lightroom or coding in Visual Studio. I now have a Windows and a Linux VM running at all times but that hasn’t done anything to wreck the silence or great battery life. I did upgrade to macOS Sonoma recently but I haven’t had time to mess with D3DMetal gaming much yet, other than to confirm that it “works” by launching a couple of titles. I am encouraged by Apple’s apparent silent cooperation with CodeWeavers (GPTK 1.1 was available in a CrossOver 23.7 beta a few days before it showed up on the Apple developer web site, so there clearly is some side communication going on between them).
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    Very interested to see what this turns out being like… I really hope they do something about the keyboard at least. My work Precision 7560 will be due for a refresh next summer and my workplace is eyeing a switch to Lenovo. So not yet sure if I will end up with a “7690”, a Lenovo P-something, or another MacBook.
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    First off, Apple’s recent RAM claims of things like 8gb being like a 16gb Windows laptop are indeed ridiculous. But don’t underestimate the potential of the unified memory. It allows for absurd GPU/VRAM utilization on high-end systems that you can’t get on a laptop otherwise. Unusual GPU workloads like simulations, AI model build, or crypto mining could benefit from having 10’s of GBs available to the GPU.
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    The one that says 980M (not “mobile”). The other one is a desktop 980 in mobile form factor; the only time NVIDIA really did that for a high-end card, as far as I know. As you can see, the card is not a standard shape. It would be a challenge to use it. (It might even need an extra power hookup? I don’t remember.)
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    You'll have to check what kind of drive you have. That will work for SATA M.2 drives, but not for NVMe M.2 drives (...which are far more common). You can't connect an NVMe drive to a SATA port with an adapter. M6800 only supports SATA. To get an NVMe drive to work you'd have to attach it with an adapter to an internal PCIe slot like the WWAN slot, and there isn't a whole lot of room. Fitting a 2280-size drive would require mods if it is even possible. And you wouldn't be able to boot from it regardless.
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    For the first point, yes you are understanding it right. Except I think that it is more like the Dell BIOS is borked but somehow "happens to work" with other GPUs and only these Pascal VBIOS are exposing the problem. Regarding the P3200 and EEPROM to store the VBIOS, I think this is dependent on where the P3200 is sourced from. HP tends to do this with many GPUs, storing the VBIOS on a chip on the motherboard rather on the GPU card, but I haven't heard of any other laptop maker doing that. But yes, even to work with Linux, the GPU would need a VBIOS. Are you stuck with a P3200? You'd probably have an easier time with a first-gen Pascal Quadro card (P3000/P4000/P5000), or maybe even Quadro M5000M / GeForce 980M which is probably the easiest upgrade to do in this laptop.
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    The problem is that there is no known "engineering sample" vBIOS that works with the P3200. We only have such vBIOS images for P3000, P4000, and P5000. (If there was, you could flash it under Linux using nvflash. No need for extra hardware.) The issue with Windows is it hits some bug with the BIOS ACPI tables that is triggered when you install one of these Pascal GPUs. Windows is unable to get around it and crashes with a BSOD. Linux doesn't care. (There is a great thread by @jeamn on this issue but it was done at NotebookReview. I'll see if I can dig it up later.) You can indeed run Windows in a VM under Linux with direct hardware access to the GPU, @jeamn also did that successfully with a GeForce 1070. I think then you need to have Optimus enabled and an external display though because you won't be able to "see" the GPU's output on the internal display. [Edit] Here it is -- https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/trials-and-tribulations-installing-a-1070-in-a-m6800.828000/index.html
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    AFAIK, there is no way to get P3200 working with Windows without resorting to pretty ridiculous BIOS shenanigans (you'd have to inject something early in the boot process to change the ACPI tables or some such; @jeamn did this at one point to get a GeForce 1070 booting). You should however be able to use it with Linux with no issue. And these days, running most Windows games on Linux is pretty straight-forward with either Steam+Proton, Lutris, or plain old Wine. You might not need a Windows install at all if that is your only use case. Yes, any NVIDIA GPU that is Maxwell or Pascal will likely need a minor heatsink mod to have it fit. You'll need a dremel or similar tool to cut a little piece off of the GPU-card-side of the heatsink. It hits the VRMs at the "top", which are in a slightly different position than they were for Kepler cards, and will be pretty obvious when you try to put the heatsink on. This is assuming that your M6800 came with an NVIDIA GPU. If it came with an AMD GPU, you'll want to source the NVIDIA version of the heatsink as well.
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    Microsoft is going to let Windows users use a default search provider other than Bing, not just in the browser, but in places like the Start Menu search. ............Only if you live in Europe (or set your PC's region accordingly at initial setup), because the EU's DMA is forcing them to make this change. They already have a similar commitment to allow you to use a browser other than Edge, which also only applies in Europe. https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/16/23963579/microsoft-windows-11-eu-digital-markets-act-feature-changes
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    Err. Here's a new thing. https://www.macrumors.com/2023/11/16/apple-to-adopt-rcs-messaging-standard/ After years of prodding, Apple is adopting RCS "later next year" (sounds like an iOS 18 feature) which will improve the messaging experience between Apple and Android devices.
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    Agreed. I don't even know of a 13th-gen system that meets this. The DTR market as we used to know it seems to be dead. You can find a small number of systems with 4 NVMe slots but I've never heard of one with more than that. You might be able to squeeze in one more small one (not bootable) if you repurpose a WWAN slot with an adapter. Four SODIMMs is also becoming uncommon as well (and right now that maxes out at 192 GB) and CAMM or soldered memory will probably take over as high DDR5 speeds start causing signaling issues on SODIMM slots. And, 4K display (or the taller 16:10 variant of it) is the max resolution that I have heard of in a laptop display.
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    You have to use a command prompt (running "as administrator") to enter these commands for DellFanCmd. It is not a GUI application so it won't do anything if you just click on it. You can test if SpeedFan can control the fans properly by just manually setting the PWM in the main window. It should react differently if you set it to 0, 50, or 100. (It will not allow for more granular control of the fans than that, it is limited to the same three speeds as my app.) Automatic EC fan control does have to be disabled in order for SpeedFan to be able to do anything, and also you must activate a checkbox setting in SpeedFan configuration that says something about supporting Dell fans.
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    As @Kitje said, you can swap out the keyboards (backlit/non-backlit); the system will figure out which one you have and react accordingly.
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    On my Precision 7560, I cannot use a drive in the primary drive slot (in the middle of the system). It is not stable, it disappears after a period of time, which will result in either a crash or lock-up if it is the system drive or the drive vanishing if it is not. It might come back after a reboot or it might not. I've had the motherboard replaced twice but the issue returned each time. (My current motherboard does not have the little push-button switch beneath the drive slot which was originally thought to be the cause of this.) I've been just getting by without using that slot. So. What @Rinconmike said. Put it in a different slot and see.
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    Will be interested to see. Just because it is an ARM CPU doesn't mean it is automatically "great" in terms of efficiency and performance, though I imagine it isn't too hard to beat x86 for efficiency. Apple has shown a consistent lead of a year or more over Qualcomm in ARM chips for phones (in terms of performance), they are competitive against the top chips coming out of Intel for laptops (in terms of performance), they can even compete against mid-range laptop discrete GPUs, and right now they basically have a lock on the 3nm chips coming out of TSMC. I am hoping that we don't see third-parties produce more ARM chips that are "efficient" but not necessarily "performant" like what we have seen so far. (Qualcomm has ARM laptop chips but they don't come close to hitting the performance that either Intel or Apple deliver. Never mind actually trying to do gaming on one of those systems.) Still like I said, competition should make things better for everyone and I am really ready for ARM to shake up the laptop space.
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    eGPUs!
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    Assuming that reseating the keyboard cable didn't work, the first step would be to replace the keyboard and keyboard cable. Dell Precision M4800, M4700, M4600, M6800, M6700, M6600 all use the same keyboard. (Some Latitude E-series models use the same keyboard too.) You can get them on eBay or whatever. Note that there are backlit and non-backlit versions. If the keyboard replacement doesn't work, you're looking at motherboard replacement. To get by in the meantime, find any old USB keyboard and use that.
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    You can do that with SpeedFan. For SpeedFan to work, you need to enable Dell fan support in its settings, and you need to force automatic EC fan control off using Dell Fan Management (manual mode, EC fan control disabled) or DellFanCmd.
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    You have to wait for the EC to "automatically" lower the fan speed below your threshold. 1000 is too low. The lowest speed that the EC will run the fans at before turning them off varies by system but it is probably in the 1400-1800 range. You'll want to watch the behavior and see what a typical "low" speed for your system is and then set the threshold a little bit higher than that. (If your system runs the fans at 3000 even under low load then this will probably not work out for you.) You can try turning off CPU turbo boost to lower temperatures and fan speeds. I have an article about options to toggle that on and off quickly in my sig.
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