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Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
My understanding is that eDP only works with NVIDIA GPUs in this system. Newer AMD GPUs that don’t work with LVDS might not work at all. In any case, the chassis cannot accept a “standard” eDP panel without some light modification. (I think @TheQuentincc managed to get a 4K panel working in there at one point.) -
Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
I don't know if those are the only things. There's a separate cable that goes from the webcam to the motherboard, and there may or may not be a variant of the display enclosure itself to have a place to "mount" the webcam PCB. -
Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Same power supplies can be used with or without the dock. -
Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
A driver mod is needed (INF file). Optimus works if you do it right. I used to do this manually, but I think nowadays NVcleanstall will do it for you. -
Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
HP Quadro RTX (Turing generation) MXM cards do not use the standard layout. To use it in the M6700 will require some modifications to the chassis and heatsink. -
Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Weird. I would suggest to disable the opposite SSD in the BIOS while you are installing the OS so each one is fully independent. After both installs are done, you should be able to enable SSDs and just choose which to boot with the F12 boot menu. -
Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
There is no whitelist. I have used several different cards in the M6700, including Intel AX200. The BIOS will not recognize Bluetooth from the Wi-Fi card, it is expecting the Dell module. It should still show up in Device Manager and be usable from Windows, though. -
This has been "wondered" but I don't know if anyone has tried it. There are some differences between the systems that apply to the GPU. 7550 GPU is PCIe3 (16 lanes), 7560 GPU is PCIe4 (8 lanes). 7560 GPUs use ones less DGFF connector than 7550 GPUs. (I think the GPU screw positions may not be identical, too.)
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Precision M6700 owner's thread
Aaron44126 replied to Aaron44126's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
If Windows doesn't have a driver built-in, running Windows Update once will pull one down. If you can connect the system to the Internet via Ethernet temporarily, it should be easy to get set up with whatever Wi-Fi card that you decide to install. Note that some newer cards have different antenna connectors. You might need an adapter for those. If you want to use the Wi-Fi card's bluetooth, disconnect the M6700's original built-in Bluetooth. The module is to the right of the keyboard and you can access it just by pulling off the keyboard trim. Just unplug the module from the motherboard, you don't have to remove it. -
I have no desire to pick one of these up for myself, but my nephew asked if I could try to snag one for him because he is eager to upgrade from his GeForce 2070 to 5080, but is going to be busy at work when these things launch, presumably at 9 AM on January 30. Anyone purchased a launch-day GPU before? Any experiences or tips from dealing with specific sites? I'm not going to camp at a store, so I'd just have to be refreshing a web site and trying to get one into my cart and then through the checkout as quickly as possible... and I fully understand that they may well all be bought up by eager beavers, scalpers, or bots within the first few minutes or even seconds of going on sale.
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Not sure about this, but I will say that NVIDIA Inspector can make a shortcut for you which has the command-line parameters needed to set the clocks and voltage that you want, without having to actually fully open up the app. You can then just turn that into a Task Scheduler job to automatically run at startup.
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Ha, on top of that, since they didn't release a new system in 2024, you have to get a 2023 system if you don't want to or can't wait the 4-6 months until a new system is ready. (Had this happen at work, they just bought "new" 2023 model systems for my team. They went for Lenovo P16 though, because Dell was quoting something like $1400 higher per system for a Precision 7680. I'm sitting this upgrade cycle out, transitioning my work system to macOS later this year.)
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They don’t usually announce these at an event… They’ll probably just put out a press release when they are ready. (April?)
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Compared to the above, Pro Max Plus has Ethernet port on the left side (like Precision 7X80), full size SD instead of microSD, and overall less of a "wedge"-shape design going on.
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Unfortunately, the keyboard layout seems the same as prior generations — Home/End sharing with F11/F12, and no dedicated PgUp/PgDn are my main complaints. (Precision 7X30/7X40 generations didn't have either of these problems.) Also, they have removed the right Ctrl key and slapped a Copilot key there. At least, in Windows 11 settings you can choose from a few options for remapping that button.
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Noted. Thanks. Supposed to be simple, huh? How is someone supposed to wander onto the web site and chose between "Dell Pro" and "Dell Premium"? Seems like you have to gain some understanding of what each of these words actually means. And what do they mean? "Pro" apparently means "business system". (As opposed to iPhone, which they seemingly borrowed this from, where it just means "better".) "Max" is workstation? I had originally thought "Premium" meant "slim version", but that appears to be the case for Dell Premium and not Dell Pro Premium. ...But it is with Dell Pro Max Premium. "Plus" just means "higher performance than without Plus"? And it doesn't help that they all (Pro + Plus + Premium + Max) basically mean "the better/best version of something" if you just try to read them as English. I guess I want the system with the most superlatives in the name, but it doesn't look like they are planning to offer Dell Pro Max Premium Plus.
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18" is coming. We have to wait for "Pro Max Plus". It was mentioned but not detailed in Dell's announcement, they stated it is coming "later this year". But... https://notebooktalk.net/topic/2514-dell-pro-max-18-plus-and-dell-pro-max-16-plusthis-is-the-name-of-the-flagship-dell-precision-mobile-workstation-for-2025/
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If you haven't seen it, @song_1118 did a great deep dive on the naming convention and also the product model code. https://notebooktalk.net/topic/2516-your-name-analysis-and-speculation-on-the-dell-pro-max-18-plus-for-the-year-2025-part-1/
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M4800 Owner's Thread
Aaron44126 replied to unnoticed's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Err, quite possibly. I have never tried using Coreboot myself, and I can't remember seeing that anyone had tried that to work around this issue... Another thing to note is, if your M4800 has an LVDS display panel then a Pascal GPU will not be able to drive it directly. You will be forced to use Optimus if you want to use the internal display. If your system has an eDP display panel, this should not be an issue. M4800's with 1080p or lower resolution display could have either type of panel, so you'll probably want to be aware if which yours has. -
M4800 Owner's Thread
Aaron44126 replied to unnoticed's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
Any Pascal GPU without engineering sample vBIOS is unlikely to work in Precision M4800 or M6800, at least if you want to run Windows, because of a BIOS bug you'll get an ACPI BSOD at boot every time (even if the NVIDIA driver is not installed). We only have working engineering sample vBIOS images for P3000, P4000, and P5000. (Any Pascal GPU should work with Linux, though...) Delta fans are indeed preferred. -
Yeah, again, we have yet to see Pro Max Plus which would be the replacement for what we consider "Precision" (7000 series). But yeah, looking at the prices for "Pro Premium" which I understand to be the more-or-less replacement for the popular XPS laptops... The cheapest is Dell Pro 13 Premium at $1,829.00 USD. For that you get Intel Core Ultra 5 "V" CPU, 16 GB of RAM, and 256 GB SSD, and a 300 nit 1200p display. Basically the minimum I'd consider to be passable for a current-gen "OK laptop" for like... web browsing and office work. (At least they didn't try to squeeze it down to 8 GB RAM.) Guys, guys, guys. Not to hawk Apple, but I always thought that Apple was seen to be charging a "premium" for the specs that you get on a MacBook, compared to the price of a "typical" laptop. But it looks like that has been flipped around here. You can get a base MacBook Air 13" with the same RAM/SSD, probably better CPU/GPU, and definitely better display. For $1,099! It's a steal. (I do find it interesting that Dell is not doing that "fake discount" thing they've always done, where they have a higher price struck out to make it look like you're getting a deal. Are we getting to the point where the price is the price? Or maybe that will show up later once they get the store in order.)
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Pro Max Plus still has not been announced. It should be available in 18". NVIDIA had their announcement, Blackwell / GeForce 5000 GPUs on the way, with the first desktop GPUs landing on January 30. Laptops with these GPUs will drop starting in like April? I think there is time for pro versions of the GPUs to be available just in time for an early summer Pro Max Plus launch. I don't think Pro Max (non-Plus) will need 240 watts...
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Just poking for information, it looks like Dell has made the announcement, and this is the first article I found. https://mashable.com/article/ces-2025-dell-ai-pc-rebrand-pro-max There are three classes of Dell PC in the rebrand: "Dell" "Dell Pro" "Dell Pro Max" (Err, there also seems to be some "Plus" and "Premium" tossed in for good measure.) Dell Pro laptops will be available imminently. Dell Pro Max 14/16 Intel version will be dropping in March or April. Dell Pro Max *AMD version* will also drop later in 1H 2025. (@Ionising_Radiation) (Dell Pro Max 18 is not mentioned here...?) [Edit] Realizing that none of this is "Pro Max Plus" which was the leaked Precision 7000 replacement. [Edit 2] Dell has a promo page up. https://www.dell.com/en-us/plcp/lp/dell-pro-max-pcs And a blog post. https://www.dell.com/en-us/blog/dell-transforms-ai-pc-portfolio-for-anywhere-productivity/ The blog post mentions Dell Pro Max "Premium" and Dell Pro Max "Plus" coming "later this year". [Edit 3] Dell Pro Max (non-Premium/Plus) will apparently have RTX Ada Generation GPUs, not new Blackwell ones or whatever NVIDIA is about to reveal today. Dell Pro Max = Precision 3000 Dell Pro Max Premium = Precision 5000 Dell Pro Max Plus = Precision 7000 Dell Pro (base) & Dell Pro Premium = Latitude Dell Premium = XPS?