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Dell Fan Management — Software for controlling the Dell laptop fan speed
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Consistency mode has to wait until the EC lowers the fan speed and then lock it in. It will follow the "natural" system behavior until the thresholds are met. Run the system with a light load until it lowers the fan speed below 2400. (If this never happens for whatever reason, consistency mode will not work, at least not without changing the thresholds.) -
Dell Fan Management — Software for controlling the Dell laptop fan speed
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Huh, never seen that one before. It's trying to load the file "irrKlang.NET4.dll", which should be in the same location as the main program, and getting an error. Check and make sure that you have the file and that it has not been messed with or corrupted, I guess? The MD5 hash is e52968028c3c4c1b94576eae48ffe411. ...I tested on Windows 11 and didn't run into this, but it has been nearly a year since I have done so, and I don't have any (non-VM) Windows 11 machines sitting around currently. If my Precision 7770 shows up tomorrow as planned, it will have Windows 11 preloaded and I'll give this a try again. -
Earlier @Dell-Mano_G answered this question with "summer time"... Not sure if the situation with the 7X70's delayed launch has affected things but I would expect within the next ≈2 months. ———— I was thinking that FedEx might get my package over today and not tomorrow but it does not look like that is the case. It did not move out of Chicago last night. Dell did mark my order "shipped" about five hours after handing it over to FedEx. I haven't been charged for the system yet, but I imagine that will sort itself out in short order... So it looks like 17 days from "In production" to delivery in my case. If Dell is going to hit these August 22ish dates for the bulk of people's orders, seems like we'll have to start seeing them enter production by the end of next week at the latest...
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Dell hasn't marked it "shipped" yet BUT (≈200 miles away.)
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Sigh. I went through Dell customer support / order support and got a useless response, with the rep there saying that the system is still in the "final stage of production" (even though it has been in "Build complete" status for nine days now), blaming COVID and the global supply chain situation for delays, and saying that he would put in a request to "expedite" my order. I think he was just trying to placate me with a mostly canned response and get through his queue. Simultaneously, I contacted a Dell employee that I've seen posting on another site and he got me a more detailed status. The order is in "shuttle" state, moving from the factory to the U.S. to be tendered to FedEx, and is estimated to land in the U.S. tomorrow. So, just gotta keep waiting a bit longer. 😬 (This sort of information would be really nice to see on the order status page... or at least, the order shipping/delivery dates should update to reflect the reality that clearly Dell knows about. 😕)
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Dell has failed to "ship" the order by the given ship date, July 24. At this moment, the ship date has not been updated, it still shows July 24 as the estimated ship date on the order status page. I am nosing around to see if I can get someone to provide more information about where the system is right now. Someone inside Dell should be able to track the freight shipment containing my package, which is probably moving via DHL Air Freight. ...If they really are using DHL Air Freight for the shipment containing my laptop, no surprise that the system did not "ship" yesterday, as there were no DHL freight flights into Chicago. There was one already early this morning at 3 AM. Maybe it will "ship" today.
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Doubt we'll ever have a high-end GPU running externally at the same speed that it would internally. While Thunderbolt might get faster, internal PCI Express is also getting faster. Still, if a desktop 3080 can achieve 80%+ performance attached externally in most cases, it's probably still faster than a laptop 3080. (Source) ...Plus, running with an eGPU would remove power contention from the CPU, allowing that to run faster as well.
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I haven't heard of anyone trying this, so maybe? When I looked at comparison photos of the GPU it seemed like there was enough of a small difference (screw positions maybe) that would rule it out. Don't remember exactly, would have to pull the photos and look again. There is also the fact that 7X60 GPUs are PCIe4 and use one fewer DGFF connector than 7X50 GPUs so that throws cross-compatibility into question as well. ———— Today is the day that my 7770 order is supposed to hit "shipped" status. (Supposedly it has been making its way from the factory in China to the FedEx hand-off point in Chicago over the course of the past week; no way to track that progress.) It did not ship early and there is now definitely a chance that it will ship late. It's still pretty early in the morning here. I know shipment notices sometimes don't arrive until evening. We'll see.....
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There is a chance that 7X80 cards (NVIDIA Lovelace) will work in 7X70 if they keep the same chassis and don’t mess with the GPU card layout (very much). Wouldn’t plan on that being the case, and any upgrades beyond that would not be likely to work at all. 😕
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DGFF cards have generally not been compatible between different laptop models. The only potential working upgrades that I am aware of are what they offered officially for the Alienware 51m, and a Pascal->Turing option for Precision 7X30 systems using Precision 7X40 cards. You can look at the Precision 7X70 cards (service manual pics) and see that both the physical layout and data connectors are different than any previous DGFF implementation. Dell has typically not offered the cards stand-alone. Don’t really blame them — despite the interest from users on sites like this, the overall market for an upgrade like this would be quite small and it would be extra hassle for Dell to figure out how to support them for warranty purposes and so forth. However, you can’t even get them through the spare parts dept. if you know the part number (in most regions) — I wish they’d make that possible. Have to rely on eBay or other sites for stuff to show up, maybe several months after the system launch.
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Do you have a page that shows a good photo of the RTX 3080 card that you bought? (Someone can probably point out the vBIOS chip on the card itself, if it is present.)
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Haswell CPU layout is like this. Memory controller is on the edge on one side. There are CPU cores bordering the opposite edge. (Not sure "which end is which" compared to your CPU photo above.) CPUs do not heat up uniformly. The CPU cores will be where the bulk of the heat comes from. It "might" be OK to leave certain areas uncovered but you'd want to have a pretty good idea of why that's OK. I wouldn't chance it. Best to make sure the whole thing is covered with some sort of thermal transfer material so that the heat can spread evenly over the top as best it can. (GPUs heat up much more uniformly if only because most of the die space is taken up by "cloned" GPU core blocks that operate in parallel.)
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Saw this a few days ago and finally sat down to watch it. This is the coolest bit of hackery I've seen in a while. I don't want to say that much; for anyone who is familiar with Ocarina of Time, there are just a string of fun surprises that build on each other throughout the video all of the way to the end. It was done on real Nintendo 64 with an unmodified OOT cartridge to boot. Here's another one that explains how the whole thing works.
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Precision 7670 4K panel is OLED, 60 Hz, 16:10. Precision 7770 4K panel is LCD/WLED, 120 Hz, 16:9. (Yet another trade-off.)
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Precision 7560 & Precision 7760 owner's thread
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...Did the tech take the heatsink out to replace the display? You should just have to take off the display bezel and take out a few screws to remove the panel. The display cable detaches from the back of the panel. ...Or did you have your whole display enclosure replaced? -
Touchpad firmware update... That's sort of unusual. https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=J7FDY
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Precision 7560 & Precision 7760 owner's thread
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I was wondering about that. I'm planning to "collect" the 7770 vBIOS images as users stop by with the various GPUs. We'll see if anyone wants to try it. (7670 is "officially offered" with 240W PSU as well, indicating there are situations where the system might want to draw more than 180W; seems like it might be possible to push the power envelope up.) Curious what your CPU+GPU power draw looks like compared to before. When I put a GPU in my M6700 that was more power hungry than the stock ones, it caused the CPU to become power-starved and throttle in situations where both were loaded. (Dynamic Boost 2.0 in the 7560 might handle that better.) -
Eh. Dell's SSD prices are always high. Just look at price comparisons to Samsung Pro (on capacities where they match offerings); Dell charges around twice as much and I think most people would agree that Samsung is a leader when it comes to both speed and reliability. There is a place for QLC (when capacity & price matter more than speed). I also have a Samsung 8TB QLC drive that I use for bulk storage and it is fine for that purpose. I wouldn't use it for an OS/VM drive or something. Sabrent is less familiar to me as well. I've been using a 4TB Sabrent drive in my Precision 7560 for about a year and it's been fine. They've been pushing the boundaries of the NVMe 2280 SSD space for a couple of years now. They were the first to offer an 8TB drive (in 2020, starting with QLC). I think they have the only PCIe4 8TB drive on the market, and I know they have the only TLC 8TB drive on the market (and it's the same drive, Rocket 4 Plus 8TB).
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UHD+ will not be offered in the 7770. 7770 is a 16:9 chassis and 7670 is 16:10. It's a trade-off 😕. I'd hazard a guess that the same will be true for next year's "7780" and "7680" systems. (Dell likes to use the same chassis for at least two iterations.)
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7560 last year. Ordered & confirmed 6/17 (two days after launch) Production 7/4 "Shipped" 7/19 Tendered in Chicago 7/23 (...a Friday...) FedEx had it at a local facility by 7/24 and it was delivered 7/26. ...About 5.5 weeks end-to-end. What is missing is the "build complete" step, which isn't logged on the order status page for U.S. orders, if you don't happen to catch it when it happens. Can't really tell how long it took for them to get it from China to the U.S. after assembly was complete. (I don't think the "Shipped" step can be pegged down to a specific point in the process. Reading timelines on Reddit, I see that sometimes this happens on the same day that they get the package to FedEx, and sometimes it happens several days before that. I even saw a few reports where the laptop showed up at the doorstep before Dell marked it "Shipped".) Coincidentally, that one was delivered on 7/26, which is the same as the expected delivery date for my 7770, one year later. Looks like your 7760 from last year was more like 7.5 weeks. I know some others went on for over two months. I was hoping that things would move along a little quicker this year because the supply chain situation is somewhat relieved (but not all of the way back to normal). Previous launch Precisions I have been involved with (M6700 and 7530) arrived in about 2.5 weeks. Mine appears to be on track for that but I haven't heard of anyone else's moving to production yet...
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These four keys are what I hate most about Dell's modern keyboard layouts... This is your keyboard? It's even worse than the current Precisions (which have Home/End up at the top sharing with F11 and F12). I use SharpKeys to remap some of the keys and make it more usable. I have mapped "Right Alt" to PgUp and "Right Ctrl" to PgDn, for example, so those can be used without a press of the Fn key. (You can also use MS PowerToys which has a key remapping function.) You could "cross-map" the arrow keys and PgUp/PgDn/Home/End to effectively reverse which ones you need to press "Fn" for. (Map "Left arrow" to "Home" and then map "Home" to "Left arrow". Repeat for the other keys.) I imagine that'd be a pain whenever you want to use the actual arrow functions, though. ...Bit of a pain if you switch between using the laptop keyboard and an external/USB keyboard. The mappings will apply to the external keyboard as well.
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TL;DR: Well, I don't think so, but it could be "any day now". I was a bit optimistic about that when I first saw it, but have since learned more about the tail end of the order/shipping process... FedEx tracking does still say that the package will be delivered tomorrow, but they don't have the package in hand yet. I think that it was a default/garbage date that was generated when the shipping label was created. They will surely update it when Dell hands over the package. I was poking around Reddit threads yesterday, getting an idea for "how long between build complete and package handoff" or "how long between shipping label created and package handoff", and it is anywhere from a few days to a about week. (Even though the "build complete" step happened this past Saturday, I don't know if the package would have had any real movement during the weekend. If it has been flown out of China by now then it seems like a delivery within the next 1-3 days is possible.) The ambiguity here isn't really Dell's fault. I'm not supposed to "know" the tracking number yet (Dell has not provided it, I found it through FedEx Delivery Manager). Dell creates the FedEx label when the system build is done (presumably they go ahead and slap it on the box) but the anticipated ship date that FedEx is showing is not accurate, the system still needs to make its way over from China. I might have only about 18 hours "warning" between when the physical package makes its way into the FedEx system and when it shows up at my house. Both Precision 7530 and 7560 systems we got had the first scan into the FedEx system in Chicago happening late in the day (7-8 PM) and then the systems were delivered the following business day (FedEx stops by my house at around 1 PM). ...Hoping the handoff happens by Thursday evening so that I can have this weekend to play with it and get stuff set up. (FedEx will not deliver during the weekend.) But I'd settle for just knowing where the package is. Dell is still saying "shipping" will happen on July 24 (Sunday) and delivery by July 26 (a week from now). I'll just be checking every evening and wondering if today is the day...
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Obtained my service tag but any attempt to pull the parts list is kicking out an error, I guess it is still a bit too early...
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I went for Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus for 8TB drives. (Hope there's no issue with them in the 7770, either with capacity or with the fact that these are "double-sided" drives. We'll find out soon.) Sabrent drives have a five-year warranty if you register them. They also have Sabrent Rocket (not plus) which would be a bit cheaper but is just PCIe3, and Sabrent Rocket Q which would be a bit cheaper yet because it is QLC. PNY also makes some high-capacity drives with five-year warranty. There definitely have been improvements to the whole scaling situation since Windows 10 & Precision 7510 were first released (they came in the same year). I think the 2016 and 2017 updates ("Anniversary Update" / "Creators Update") in particular added some notable improvements. (Plus, developers have been improving their apps for high-DPI displays over time.) I do not think you will be disappointed... I've been gaming on a Quadro for ten years (K5000M and M5000M in Precision M6700) and it never seemed like I was missing out compared to GeForce of the same spec. ...For "work", I do some resource-heavy stuff (VMs & SQL database) but nothing that really stresses the GPU; I went with GeForce in the 7770 because I really just want it for gaming. Regarding what apps have been tested, you can search at http://precisionworkstations.com/software-certification-lookup, they have Precision 7X70 results that have not been published in the "final documentation" PDF files yet.
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