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Kind of confusing with the driver labeling here. I downloaded, checked the checksum and signature, and installed the 5.14.10.10 version from dell.com for my system. Rebooted, and the fingerprint reader now works again. Under device manager, the fingerprint reader however still shows driver version 5.14.1.1 the same as before.

Latest driver for the palmrest FIPS fingerprint reader appears to be https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=8chrt&oscode=wt64a&productcode=precision-17-7770-laptop 5.14.10.10, A26 Release date 07 Aug 2023 Mine was updated through windows update I believe and shows version 5.14.1.1 Date May 2023. I'm not sure if 5.14.10.10 is the same as 5.14.1.1 ??? Dell shows Other Available Versions 5.13.11.19, A2509 May 2023 5.9.8.17, A2002 Mar 2022 but no mention of the 5.14.1.1 version on Dell's site. I think I'll try updating to 5.14.10.10 and see if that makes a difference.

Yes, I did reboot both machines multiple times. No driver update shows in the last 3 days under Windows Update -> Update History -> Drivers section. The 7770 worked fine to login with fingerprint this afternoon. I turned it off, took a walk, and came back and it wouldn't read my fingerprint at all. I thought maybe I had done something to my hand so I tried the other machine, and the other Dell too didn't read my finger. My even older Dell does read my fingerprint ok, so at least my fingers are ok 🙂 I tried adding a new fingerprint on the 7760 and it doesn't indicate anything is happening on the screen where it says to lift your finger and press several times... like you've never touched it at all today...

Today, September 26, the fingerprint readers on both my Dell Precision 7770 and my Dell Precision 7760 stopped working to login to Windows 10. Both worked yesterday and neither works today. When I touch them at the windows login, it doesn't say wrong fingerprint, it doesn't do anything at all like I didn't touch them. Anyone else see this? This is with the palmrest integrated fingerprint readers.

Thanks very much! I'm thinking the difference in AdobeRGB (and DCI-P3 although I haven't used that color space) is actually quite huge between those monitors, with the 88.5% AdobeRGB dropping quite a bit of the extended blue green range AdobeRGB affords over sRGB. This hits me because I do quite a bit of photography involving water and green nature... I love my current Dell Premier Color monitors but they have some pixels and one has a smudge behind the screen somehow... but the color is better than the Dell monitors I can afford now (now a year after I started this thread.) Not sure if Dell will release new 2024 models this year... right now though it looks like the only Premier Color monitor is the 32" 8k which is still quite $$$$. Asus has a 32" OLED ProArt monitor too that looks interesting. My Dell laptop with an oled screen has really beautiful blues and greens... would love to compare that side by side with the current Dell offering. Wish Dell would offer a new Premier Color 4k monitor in the 30" range...

The 16 2-in-1 is quite nice. And the oled screen is beautiful! Thanks!

Are double sided SSDs supported, or are single sided SSDs required?

Any thoughts on Kingston's line of KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSDs? https://www.kingston.com/en/ssd/kc3000-nvme-m2-solid-state-drive

A better thermal solution would make a 7790 a good upgrade. Right now it's got great acceleration for short runs, but long tasks such as simple AV scan seems to result in many of the cores not running at 100% now so the last cpu generation didn't result in much of a speed up over the previous. If we could get a higher performance thermal solution, I think the existing cpu could have a nice performance increase.

OK, so old Windows 10 laptop wakes up if I touch the touchscreen, but not if I only touch the fingerprint reader. New Windows 10 laptop wakes up if I touch the fingerprint reader, but not if I touch the touchscreen. Any ideas on what causes one behavior or the other?

Or maybe a GL.iNet GL-MT3000. According to OpenWrt Firmware Selector you have the option to install the open source generic OpenWrt latest firmware on it. I don't know how much functionality would be lost by running the latest generic firmware vs. the GL customized firmware, but that might partially alleviate a concern with how up-to-date the software on (any) travel router is vs. windows for example.

Would a GL.iNET travel router such as the GL.iNet GL-AXT1800 ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B2J7WSDK/ ) improve security vs. connecting to unkown untrusted wifi networks with a windows laptop alone? On one hand, I imagine windows might receive security updates faster than a product such as the GL.INET router. So in a worst case the GL.iNET router might introduce an additional security issue by adding it to the mix. On the other hand, adding the GLiNet router would add a layer of nat security between the untrusted wifi and the windows laptop. What do you think -- would carrying one of these be a security benefit when connecting a windows laptop to unknown wifi, such as in an unknown airbnb in a foreign country?

On my latest DELL order, I wanted Windows Pro as the OS instead of Windows Home, and this requires DELL apparently to ship all the way from China! I don't want to get too far off topic in the forum here with "made in the USA" vs. "Made in China", but this has me thinking for sure. I guess having one worldwide shipping hub is most affordable for DELL, and I do like the low prices! But don't people in large countries such as the USA have enough volume of orders to justify a warehouse and configuration operation here? It would certainly make the order process a lot nicer. Is the real estate and labor cost just so high in the USA that it's economically infesible to even configure a notebook here instead of shipping them one by one all the way from China? For example, the estimated DELL delivery time was 13 days if you select Windows Pro. Then after ordering, it switched to 5 days estimated delivery which was great in the DELL order status! However, then customer service said it may take 7-10 days to get a tracking number from the carrier in a worst case, so it's hard today to say exactly when it will be delivered! I guess we've gotten spoiled to having a tracking number where you have a very good idea that the item is moving and when it will be delivered, so this feels very odd. I might have posted this before, but I'm a bit worried about the USA. I don't mind taking advantage of great cost savings manufacturing something, but it feels like we've gone pretty far from home when we can't even configure a laptop here any longer... Anyway, there's my yearly plea for made in, or at least configured in, the USA. Will continue checking the DELL order status, until I order the next one next year if I have the same experience 😉

Well, we will see how it goes. I don't really use dark mode now... I'm not sure many of the websites I visit will switch to dark mode easily (gmail for example doesn't seem to switch if I set windows to dark mode as a test now. Actually it seems like testing right now none of the websites I visit actually change their page color to dark mode just switching windows to dark mode, so the majoirty of the screen stays bright/white.) So I may regret my choice in a power outage, but I went ahead and went for the oled. They reduced the price by $400 yesterday so the oled UHD is the same price as the FHD version right now, and adds an nvidia geforce mx550 for better or worse (battery). With the standard FHD and Intel Iris integrated graphics it says the 16" 2-in-1 gets "Up to 18 hours, 56 minutes" MobileMark 2018 battery benchmark: Inspiron 16 2-in-1 tested with 13th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-1360P Processor, 16GB, 512GB SSD, FHD+ Touch 300nits Display, Intel® Iris Xe Graphics, 6-cell 84 Whr. Based on testing using the Mobile Mark 2018 battery life benchmark So we'll see how the oled + geforce does. During a power outage I'll be concerned with simply being able to browse the web for as long as possible, so hopefully it won't hurt me too badly. I couldn't resist the upgraded graphics card and screen for the same price!

I'm wondering how battery life might compare between an Inspiron 16 2-in-1 with either: (option 1) 16", FHD+ 1920x1200, 60Hz, WVA, Touch, 300 nit, ComfortView Plus and (option 2) 16", UHD+ 3840x2400, 60Hz, OLED, Touch, WVA, 400 nit, ComfortView Plus

Thanks! As a followup question, From an activation standpoint, does it generally work to install clean Windows 10 Pro on a Dell that comes only with Windows 11 Pro?

I almost wish I hadn't read this article: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/researchers-beat-windows-hello-fingerprint-sensors-with-raspberry-pi-and-linux/ Is there a way Dell or Microsoft can fix this with software or a firmware update? Also Researchers crack Windows Hello fingerprint authentication | TechSpot Microsoft’s Windows Hello fingerprint authentication has been bypassed - The Verge

How does Dell do the licensing for WIndows 10 / 11 -- I take it there is a unique chip on the dell motherboard that gets registered with Microsoft when the laptop is produced? Or ??? The reason I ask is that I've been trying to buy an inspiron 16 2-in-1 7630 for several days now, but the Windows 11 Pro config is "temporarily out of stock" while they have windows 11 home (only) in stock. You can't place an order or get in line to buy the windows 11 pro at this time. I've been waiting for the 11 pro to come in stock again because: 1.) I'd like the ability to clean install windows 10 pro on it if I don't like windows 11 pro. 2.) I don't want to create a microsoft account or have the laptop linked to a microsoft account - I'd like to have/create a local account only on my laptop. I think starting with 11 home and then trying to upgrade to pro would make both of these more difficult for me.

Yes! I hate it when working in a hotel room to not have page up, page down, home and end keys! (I use my F1-F12 keys). Why can we not fit these keys with all the space available! My last laptop with these keys was actually a Lenovo.

Overall I like the 7770 a lot. But I'll only buy another dell precision if they get the thermal improved. I bought the 7770 because of an issue with my 7760; I liked the style of the 7770's chasis a lot - the curves in the back make it look nice to me like a porsche 😉 I was disappointed however that the 7770 is about the same speed for me as the 7760 because even though there are more cores and a faster cpu in the 7770 it throttles and rarely uses 100% of the cores for very long, whereas the 7760 actually can use it's cores at 100% until the task is done. So before buying my next precision, I'll be reading reviews here closely to see how it benchmarks on real-world tasks.

If the charging moves form a DC plug to a USB-C only, I wonder if it will have extra USB-C ports to make up for the one(s) taken up by charging? Or will it still support both a dedicated dc power port and usb-c charging (hopefully)? To date, I don't really love the USB-C only charging. I guess it's the future, but to me it made more sense to have a power port be a power port - simple, cheap, reliable. I don't use a dock -- I can see the advantage of USB-C if you use a dock so there is only one cable to connect. Without the dock I don't love it; on my XPS, one of the four USB-C ports has a plug icon, which I believe indicates I should use that one to plug it in to the usb-c ac adapter. However, where there isn't excellent lighting, like in a hotel room, I can't see the icon (it's a 2-in-one so it's harder for me to remember which side the usb-c plug with the plug icon is on, since it's symmetrical) And every couple months it gives me a warning that there is a slow charger attached, even though I'm using the OEM dell charger. Never got that on my dell standard power adapter connectors. Likewise, on my lenovo with usb-c charging the inside of the one usb-c port that is to be used for the usb-c ac adapter has a yellow inside on the port, but very hard to see when the lights in the room are down, like in a hotel room plugging in before bed. In a best case, it seems like I'm occupying a data port for power, which seems kind of pointless if I'm not using a dock. Maybe going off topic, but I also worry a bit about the security of mixing data and power -- hotel rooms have usb ports in the rooms frequently now, but I don't ever plug my phone into that since it's both a power and data port because I don't know what's behind that port in the room. Could someone put something in the usb port like they put skimmers on gas pumps? Maybe I'm overly paranoid, but I wouldn't just plug a random flash drive into my device at this point in time, so I don't love plugging into those either.. I'd rather have an analog safe power source like a simple plug where the plug is just a plug. But now I'm going off topic...

I have a car with a 12v power outlet that is fused at 10a max (120w) and it's suggested to keep power use around 65w. Is there a way to trickle charge / slow charge a precision 7770 while I drive?

Thanks guys! I don't have a repair shop around me, but it looks like I can get a replacement panel new on amazon for $350 or used on ebay for $125. I found a video on youtube I can follow (have to repaste the cpu to do the screen swap, but should be doable in an hour or so.) It's still functioning perfectly right now, but the crack probably suggests that it won't forever... so might as well do it while parts are still available.

The front glass on my xps 15 touchscreen has a crack that runs all the way across from one side to the other. It works fine and straight on the image quality is perfect, but viewed from an angle you can see the glass edge on the curved crack. I suppose there is no way to replace this glass - is it integrated into the panel?

Can you swap the display from an fhd to a uhd touchscreen? Or would the uhd require different internals?