johnksss

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

Congrats. Only one left, wow. Is there still problem get 5090's in US ? And what did you pay? Not sure what extra tariff/or tax you pay in California. Isn't it different from State to state? 

Did you shunt mod your card already or get the tools and vbios to unlock your card?

Intel is about to have serious problems as well. China is kicking them to the curb for local chip manufacturing. Guess they dont want US tech in none of their goverment machines anymore either.

51 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Congrats. Only one left, wow. Is there still problem get 5090's in US ? And what did you pay? Not sure what extra tariff/or tax you pay in California. Isn't it different from State to state? 

Of course we still have problems getting 5090's. LOL

3059.99 was the sticker price.

58 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Some of these AIBs have massive heatsinks or you block them and they are screaming for more power.

 

You can always shunt mod it to get it where you want to go but I'm hoping the XOC vBIOS eventually makes its way out. 4090 seems to get it pretty quick and it was fun to play around with.

 

Which version did you go with? Stand alone or Steam? I downloaded the latest stand alone version 1.3.7 to give a whirl later tonight or tomorrow.

 

LOL, coil whine will find ya! 🤣 

 

How high can you go for short benches? You seem to take my approach. I find a sane OC for D2D and then push it for benches. My 4090 for sane D2D OC was ~ +180 +1500. For benches it was +225 / +1600.

 

I just went into GPU Tweak III and pressed the default sliders for memory and clocks as is and left TSE 3Dmark on a loop for an hour and that was that but those settings are conservative I think so I'll want to see where it really falls off the proverbial mountain.

 

As for eBay in the US, it is ~13.6% without a store and with a store it is ~7.35% in the US, so even selling a single GPU, it makes sense to set up a basic store for ~$30 for the month if the GPU is >=~$500

 

 

Oh damn! Congrats @johnksss!! Blocking it eventually or running it as is?

 

And hey! Will ya look at that, NOT a Zotrash!

 

 

Thanks bro.

I'm not so sure Zotac is actually trash this go round. They have their own 5080 450W vBios and it's sitting pretty high up the ranks.

Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

Yes it’s fantastic!! And yes that is foreal. Most realistic shooting game I have ever played. If you die in a real raid, you lose your stuff unless you insured it, or if someone takes it and extracts, it’s gone. All weapons are real, all firearm parts and accessories are real life items that have been scanned. Not no name stuff. Some items of course are made up names but not the guns and gear. Like the in game Coca-Cola is called Tar-Cola. But all of the guns and suppressors and chest rigs and accessories are actual items in real life. Give the game a chance and you’ll love it. 
 

1 tap to the head with anything and the enemy is dead. So physics are good as well lol. 
 

When you go on a raid, make sure to pick day time. The time is in military time. If it’s night time you won’t be able to see crap. Unless you have night vision Goggles or a flashlight. 
 

They have been making this game since 2012. So the items are endless.. It’s really crazy. I just started playing it this month or late last month. Cant remember. 

Well alrighty "Mr You're gonna carry me" When do we start. 😂

18 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Speaking of ridiculous GPU prices..

I found my first GPU in Tarkov PC game! And yeah even in this game they sell for ₽124,000 Rubles which is equivalent to $919 USD, and it’s like an old Asus GTX 1070 😂. They are quite a valuable item though! I’m selling mine 100% lol. Gonna spend the money on ammunition and guns etc lol. 

Escape from Tarkov is amazing though. You can buy guns in pieces for less money, and put it back together and use it. Very cool. I went in to a raid once with no barrel. Oops. I was completely useless. 
 

Wait, is that for real? I was debating on starting to play that game as my buddy said it was pretty good.

On 4/12/2025 at 6:04 PM, jaybee83 said:

 

i dont get it....first @johnksss input on the dire 5090 situation in the US and now urs. prices are still dropping here in europe, ive even started seeing several shops list the Suprim at "acceptable" prices (i.e. within my preset budgeting limits). stock lasts for days, if not weeks in multiple cases. u can basically go and get a 5090 any time u want from reputable shops and even if u want a specific model ull hardly have to wait a day or two to get it in stock somewhere.

 

why this imbalance?

Does your country have a 150% tariff going on?

23 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Sorry for the delayed text message. Had a busy weekend. I know you are busy with work, so just reply to the text when it is convenient. No rush.

There is no real value in the AIB cards except for the fact that they are not the inferior FE design with separate parts cobbled together with cables like a stinking turdbook. The FE doesn't look bad and the form factor is useful for small builds, but I really despise the way the card is put together. Whatever person or group designed it as they did were taking some kind of scary drugs. It's quite the abortion. Everything is gimped, so even the expensive AIB cards are not offering anything in terms of performance. Even if they did offer enhanced performance, the difference is not in scale with the added cost.

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So, I made some hard decisions this weekend. Not only getting rid of external cooling loops and going down to just two desktops (primarly because of lack of space and my growing sense of claustrophobia the congested workspace is causing), but I also cancelled the X870E Apex order. The more I have compared differences between the all of the AM5 boards I have or did have (X670E Gene, X870E Carbon, X870E Taichi and B850 AORUS Elite) the more it seems like there is little or no differences in performance or overclocking potential. The CPU runs like the CPU is going to run and it doesn't care what motherboard it is installed in. Ryzen is a solid product, but limited by design and having a more robust motherboard makes hardly any difference in CPU overclocking, and minimal difference in RAM overclocking. This is in stark contrast to Intel, where it really does seem to make a big difference having a better motherboard.

 

So, the B850 board got a 9600X dropped in it yesterday with some cheap G.SKILL Flare DDR5-6000 (Samsung IC) I had in my spare parts and the GTX 1080 Strix. It is going to my grand daughters. It runs like a top. With the EK Nucleus AIO it maxed out at like 71°C in Cinebench with PBO 200 offset and CO 25 and a -0.050V vCore offset and maximum vdroop enabled. Like 1.075V on vCore under full title load. They will be in heaven with the upgrade over the X79/RX 580 build I gave to them not long ago. Plus, now they will both be able to play with their friends online at the same time. They will just have to fight over who uses the better rig, LOL.

 

I ordered an X870E AORUS Master because: (1) it has asychronous BCLK like the better A$$zeus motherboards that cost a WHOLE LOT more than the Master, and (2) it is the only logical option for PCIe bifurcation out of all of the models that exist. The only better option is the Godlike, but its ungodly price is just absurd and unacceptable. ALL (100%) of the A$$zeus ROG boards are totally effed up. I can fill all three of the PCIe X16 slots withoutout the GPU slot getting cut to X8. You cannot do that with A$$zeus crap boards because the engineers of the ROG boards were drunk or taking mind-altering drugs at the time they designed them. The two extra X16 slots on the AORUS Master are run off of the two chipsets and have no effect on the CPU lanes feeding the GPU. The middle X16 slot is PCIe 4.0 X4 and the bottom X16 slot is PCIe 3.0 X4. This is how ASUS should have done it. It's a shame how they botched thing up on all X870E boards. Idiots.

 

I will be building using the Master in the O11D XL EVO case with the new radiators I purchased. It will have the 4090 Suprim and liquid cooled RAM. The Gene will stay in the Antec C8 and will host the air-cooled 9070 XT.

 

As as side note, I have a bad feeling about the X870E Apex. Its launch has been pushed out multiple times (at least three times, maybe more) and the $800 pre-order price probably would not be honored even if and when it eventually is released. It was already not worth $800. Factor in the screwed up PCIe bifurcation and it's just not a good product and not worth owning IMHO. The PCIe bifurcation issues it has make it unacceptable. I also do not like the GPU release idea on the new A$$zeus boards. The release button is better, even if they managed to fix the GPU contact finger damage the original design was causing. I saw it listed for $1,999 USD on the US A$$zeus web store. They can shove that up their tailpipe and break it off. That's about $1,200 more than I would pay for it. Kiss my butt ROG scumbags.

You already know how to get a hold of me if I'm not active here. 🙂

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Trying to hang onto the money for my X870E Apex pre-order. That is, assuming the pre-order price remains the same. If not I may cancel it. Thinking about cancelling it anyhow. I doubt it will give me anything that that I don't already have in terms of performance with either the X670E Gene or B850 AORUS Elite (which performs almost the same as the Gene). So, I am starting to doubt that is is going to deliver enough bang for buck. In spite of the retarded $800 price tag it looks as though A$$zeus totally screwed up the PCIe lane allocation and wasted resources on things that don't matter, like USB4 and WiF7 and didn't include something useful like a slimSAS port. It's got a bunch or worthless PCIe slots that are only usable if you are OK with the GPU getting castrated to 50% (X8) bandwidth. The clowns at A$$zeu are truly idiots. About the only way I would be able to use it the way I want to is to buy an NVMe to PCIe X4 riser with a long cable to run my Sabrent quad NVMe card. Give up one NVMe slot and add four. 

 

I ordered a second Thermal Grizzly Mycro direct die block so I will be ready when I delid the second 9950X. I like that better than the TG IHS. I also ordered bunch of high CFM/high pressure fans, two Heatkiller radiators and an Alphacool X-Flow radiator to go inside of the O11D XL EVO case. I am going to sell the MORA radiator and go with an all-internal build in that case since it has tons of room for push-pull in every spot. The X-Flow will go in the back panel and connect the top and bottom radiators. I am going to use the EK manifold with QDC fittings at one end and ball valves at input side so if I want to use the chiller I can simply close the ball valves on the internal system to bypass radiators and plug in the QDC fittings from the chiller lines.

How much are you selling the Mora Radiator for?

13 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

What did you do to the 285K to make it score so much better? 

I guess the real question would be, better than what? LOL

As for this Firestrike benchmark. You have to find the right core count and get test one in the 400 fps range. Then you can run the full bench.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33211678

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33211691

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

My score is terrible. I get good performance in Fire strike GT2. But I cannot get any GPU usage to go up on GT1. Same thing with the physics test. It only uses like 30% of my CPU. And the combined test is even worse. I want to figure out why the benchmark runs so terribly. 

Makes no sense how GT1= 130fps@30% GPU Usage, and GT2= is over 370fps@100% GPU Usage.


NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME

Hummm, 28 cores. Try just disabling HT and see what you come back with first.

On 4/8/2025 at 10:26 AM, electrosoft said:

 

 

 

In an odd moment of uniqueness, everyone in this thread who has a 5090 has a different model lol.

 

Listed in order of acquisition:

 

@Talon = TUF OC 5090

@tps3443 = 5090 FE

@Papusan = Astral 5090 LC

@electrosoft = Astral 5090 Air

@jaybee83 = Suprim 5090

 

Did I miss anybody?

 

Maybe @johnksss will roll up with a Zotac....

 

 

Been camped out for 6 days and all I got was a Zotac 5080. The only 5080/5090 that showed up in 7 days.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

YUP!!! I’m gonna be more patient next gen. I was getting frustrated during this launch. But MSRP is the only way! I cannot afford AIB cards anymore 🤣

 

What an insane price!!! Wow. You’re very lucky to snag that beauty! Good find man!

 

Hummm, had to think about that for a moment.... I was in the store for something else and asked about 50 series cards. They said they had some 5070's and I was like. That's a hard pass. Went to online order line and a manager said John, we know you're looking for a 5090, but we have this 4090 sitting here. Do you want it? I thought for a moment. I was like, sure. Why not. I'll hold onto it for you guys for a few weeks. The actual price on the box was 1745.96 though

22 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Opened the box. The 4 small foams in each corners saved the inner box. And as you should know... Asus  offer cheapo glossy thin cardboard boxes. There is no class  with Asus. They go cheap where they can. Even for their flagship products. The box that come with the HOF is 100 times better. It's just a box... But I'm an collector and prefer to take good care of all my products and in an nice box. Cheap or expensive doesn't matter. A good quality box should be minimum to ask for when you pay this amount money for flagship cards...

 

And for the records... I would be equal happy with a 10 years card. But what I don't like... Pay xx80 prices for xx60 tier cards. Hence you'll never see me buy brand new cards from mid tier class.

 

 

 

 

 

The 5090 Astral looks like a small xx70 class card vs the monstrous creature 4090 HOF. 

 

 

Hmmm. Nope. It increased the value. Crocs ain't cheap here home😁 And it's time jou buy a pair. And in black😎

 

What reduce the value of an Asus Astral 5090.... Huang's autograph on the card. 

 

 

 

Hmmm. Loads of 5070's in the retail  here. Every single of them is massively overpriced. The so called market don't work. 

 

Gigabyte 5070 at $871.65 without tax. Or better say close to 59% above the MSRP. It seems 

https://www.proshop.no/Grafikkort/GIGABYTE-GeForce-RTX-5070-AORUS-Master-12GB-GDDR7-RAM-Grafikkort/3331090

 

Nvidia need to ship 10 times as many cards if the prices shall come back to more normal levels... And not only 5070's. 

 

 

Is  this Nvidia's answer on AMD's coming xx60 class cards? And will gamers buy 8GB xx60 cards in 2025? 

The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti and RTX 5060 have reportedly been delayed until mid-April and May.

Is the hype real or fabricated for the Astral?

20 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

 

Was it a good deal? MSI 4090 Suprim is literally still top notch performance. You probably won’t have any trouble selling it for more than you paid. 

Thats some nice wire management on the backside. I really like it. I want to try a 9950X. May get one in the future here soon. 

1551.99 + 149.99 Warranty so 1618.88 out the door. Normal price, 1833.89

And I would more than likly just take it back to the store for a full hassle free refund. 🙂

Still no 5090's readily available at my MC, but the manager came and found me in line and said I have a MSI Liquid Suprim 4090 if you want it for now. So I grabbed that for now.

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The Microcenter in Tustin had 3 ASUS Prime 9070 XT OC for $599.99 this morning and I almost reached out to @johnksss to see if he would be able to grab one for me. I'd buy them all day long for $600. That's a fantastic deal, but it's approaching the edge. I decided to not ask him to when I paused to consider CA sales tax being higher than normal and shipping would have to be added, so that would take it from being a pretty decent purchase to being a poor value prospect.

 

I think the value of this GPU is lost above about $700. This was built with the intent of it being a reasonably-priced average gamer GPU. It is not a flagship product. It's not an enthusiast or high end product no matter how you look at it, and should not be priced as if it were. I was satisfied with the 3060 Ti just for gaming. It was good enough. That is the category this product falls into... good enough, reasonable price. Being good enough is entirely predicated on the price remaining below the $700 to $800 range including tax and shipping. Otherwise, it is not good enough and not worth buying.

That would have been 646.49 out the door with no warranty and at MC regular store prices. I would have probably just traded on a favor. So less than 600.00 out the door with shipping I think. Not sure how much to ship to AZ.

@tps3443 You probably would have done better just running a 5070 ti. Maybe that is the 4090 Jensen was talking about on par and beating it because it sure does beat that 4090 hands down.

13 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

From what I see... Asus increased the prices for the 5090's upwards after the tax was preached (Astral went up quite a lot) and that is reflected in the Asus estore prices. Then expect the higher prices also should be included for the lower end SKUs.  

 

Maybe I'm wrong. But I think the prices is with the preliminary tax on Asus estore. So MC should be on same level.

You got me there brother. I was surprised they even lowered the prices back down in the first place since it was at loss to them.

11 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Now just is not a good time to spend money on computer stuff. Everything is a poor value, much of what is being sold is garbage and the desirable parts are either not available or marked up 50 to 100% more than their actual value, and marked up more than that with scalper scum.  It is happening only because people buying at those crazy jacked up prices are cooperating and allowing themselves to get screwed. Everyone is in business to make money, but not all businesses are on a mission to screw everyone dumb enough to go along with their price gouging program. Businesses that take it up a notch or two and charge the maximum amount that stupid people are willing to pay do not deserve to remain in business. The world would be a better place without them and the stupid people they call customers.

This goes for pretty much everything so everyone is pretty much stupid in today's world of buying anything not made by onesself.

Edit: This is like the only time I wish I would have bought a 3 year warranty.

5 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

I know. And I see it in the stores here home compared to other countries. What I meant... Is the $999 price also the same on the Asus US store? And from what I mean, MC don't increase over Asus store prices.

And now you understand why they are taking a loss. This may change in the near future, but those people that were able to buy at MSRP or near price were really happy.

Hmmm. Doesthismeans MSRP cards willbe $825 witht the tariff? And the custom Asus cards at $1000 will be $1250 without scalping?

Not sure, but if they have to pay more then the cost is 100% past on to the customer. How much to the customer is based on projected margins I would gather.

6 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Hmmm. Doesthismeans MSRP cards willbe $825 witht the tariff? And the custom Asus cards at $1000 will be $1250 without scalping?

You are forgetting. Companies are in the market to make money, not break even my friend. So they have their own base markup price. This seems to be the part everyone keeps forgetting about.

MSRP is also on a sliding scale. due to what is going on in the world. And people selling these things are not going to just constantly take a loss to please the masses. They have people to feed as well.

@Papusan I had quite the conversations with people in the know today and it was a bit enlighting. Also, Santa Clara store is on hold because of the city not honoring something the store had in place before they bought the building back.

8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Did Microcenter have it priced correctly(under $800) or are they selling it for 5080 MSRP prices since everyone is selling 5080 for at or above 5090 MSRP price?

The ones that were supposed to be marked at 749.99 were indeed 749.99 and they took a loss in doing so. They had cards in a few ranges below 950.00. Mine was 999 though. You can thank tariffs and how much MC paid for the cards for the price increase, but MC talked it over with corporate and went ahead and lowered certain cards back to what they were set for MSRP. Those cards sold around 5:30 am this morning. I was there for something else and they were like you missed it. LOL Then I came back for some other parts and one of the guys said a truck just showed up. So I asked and they gave me a voucher. Told me they only had the Tuff card. I said i'll take it for now. The guy behind me was like...Wait, what, they have cards. And quickly bought one.

Walked in about 4:15 pm and happened to grab this while getting stuff for my customers.

Edit: Well this card definitely has some overclocking room. I will stay that much.

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=sw P&cpuId=&gpuId=1696&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=