MyPC8MyBrain

i saw the benchmark result for the 4090 with the new gen cpu architecture its pretty impressive, but I'm still not convinced for the simple reason it is not showing us the real picture or actual gains it is showing an entire generation as a whole performing better, we don't know if its the cpu or the gpu that's giving these high scores and we don't know if these benchmarks are DLSS3 aware of these artificial frames being injected, that is not real performance but trickery performance, NVidia didn't put the 4090 with last gen cpu that's already been benched with 3090 and show us the delta of just the 4090 with and without DLSS3, why is that if they are so proud their achievements?

food prices will eventually go back down, gpu prices never go down its a one way nvidia street, they are just testing how much they can get away with,

you cant, and you cant also build your own cpu but you don't see intel charging an arm and a leg for it over the years, not to buy into the hype, it is so simple for these companies to raise hype with their capital on demand in our social media world, if they know they need to deliver value instead of hype we wouldn't see these greedy eye gauging prices, i didn't infer or call anyone ignorant! there is a huge difference being an ignorant to not being educated or knowledgeable in certain areas or fields, i am not an accountant but it doesn't imply i am ignorant or don't know how to do math,

its the greedy sales tactics and shady marketing behind it, when exactly did it happen that a gpu is x4 more expensive then a cpu, today it really doesn't matter what we think its what the young kids with zero understanding or technical knowledge that they are aiming after and marketing this for, those in the know will be fine navigating these technical waters those who don't are their bread and butter,

i completely agree, i also feel the prices are outrageous and out of proportion, for example at the time desktop rtx 4090 are available and selling at ballpark msrp $1500, i had to cough up over $2200 for a mobile 3080Ti, when i could have bought a 4090 with external enclosure and have change left for the price i paid for 3080Ti in a mobile chassis (though in due time it should be upgradeable for a hefty fee!), i just wanted base components that will be sufficient for the next few years I finally went for it, i was on the fence the past few years and eventually had to make the move almost 6 months ago! as it happened my old faithful M3800 was on its last leg and i had to upgrade my 10 year old laptop, it ended up that i got bad unit after the other for a total of 7 units swapped across almost 6-7 months, it was just last month that my 30 day evaluation for this final unit completed, I love the unit and need a mobile station, i also have a strong desktop (though not as powerful now as the mobile 7770 is atm), to clarify i posted my price and spec for comparison, though outrageous it is in the same ballpark for top end mobile components, latest gen might be 10% more expensive initially but still not cheap either way, Edit: allot of the fuss with the new 40xx series seem to be related to DLSS3 and based on frames gained in specific games, i don't game though i might occasionally play bit, i use dGpu for code processing and other processes that are not game nor DLSS3 related, i am not yet convinced the gap is that big outside the promoted DLSS3 to warrant these new or old high prices for these components, also we should note that these gains are shown with new gen mobile cpu so true dGpu gains are artificial and somewhat obscured,

Dell, Razer, Asus, MSI, HP, Lenovo, all have their direct sites you can order from, you can also use subsidiaries like Amazon Newegg B&H etc., or brick and mortar walk-ins like BestBuy but selection there will be limited,

i paid close to $4500 for my Precision 7770 with 12950HX, 3080Ti 16GB, 16GB SoDIMM ram, 256GB M.2, and 4k 120Hz, that's a very basic configuration maybe a month old by now (retail price for the unit is over $9k and also includes a 5 year manufacture bumper to bumper coverage),

clean both surface sides with 70% alcohol and let it evaporate, apply a layer of electrical tape as a protective layer on the cpu/dgpu silicon all around the die as close as you can, apply LM TIM on cpu/dgpu and the copper side on the heat pipe, and finally use the soft one side adhesive weather strip to create a protection wall around the cpu/dgpu right on the electrical tape application as shown below and above (cut it to fit your space its a bit wide, note i was lazy and didn't apply the electrical tape layer in these early images)

it really depends on how hard core you want to go, i would get a good set of pads in the right thickness you need (I wouldnt mess with phase change paste for pads in a laptop chassis), also id grab both Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut & cryonaut (its good to have both on hand, make sure you get a decent amount enough for few applications), use cryonaut on cpu and Conductonaut on your dgpu (if you want to go hard core go cryonaut on both cpu and dgpu), a more conservative approach is to apply Conductonaut on both cpu and dgpu, for a proper LM TIM application you want both these on hand too https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RZYY2T1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CSGEFU are you able to ballpark performance percentage you gained after the recent set of tweaks haul?

thank you for the update, glad to know you finally cracked your sought after 9k score 👍 once you get your re-paste and pads redone you could prob see 5-10% further increase, beside that there's more you can do but it sounds like your a happy camper atm,

@ryan did you ever deploy the few tweaks posted earlier?

sure you can you will need to either make the bridge yourself or get a splitter like this https://www.newegg.com/battleborn-131106131282/p/35Y-000B-00009?Item=9SIA85V3DG9612 as long as components don't draw power from both PSUs simultaneously you should be fine,

you should be able to use two power supplies, server cases are prebuilt with two power supplies, you mainly need a board supporting two power supplies less concern about the case itself, some consumer cases also have space, it will come down again to your board, for manual integration investigate how miners daisey chain their power,

i think the 4 fans in the back should provide some basic airflow until you decide to be nicer to your friends there 😉

what kind of a friend are you letting your only friends sit on the floor? 😮 i bet they will feel way more refreshed if they were raised with decent airflow below too 😉 in a pinch 4 matchboxes will do the trick even bottle caps will do more then having the board on the table,

one of our customers runs 2 x 3090, id imagine that physically 2 x 4090 can fit, but... second unit bus/lane speed, and power supply for 2 x 4090 may pose an issue,

@Papusan how convenient for Microsoft, they shaken their money tree to drop off few more millions in short few days and all they had to do is apologies? where do i sign up to do that, well worth it!

yes, D, E, and F are Samsung, C drive is OEM 256GB Xioxia drive dell ships with,

i like that 😉 no doubt! i have been using linux well over 30 years through its evolutions and flavors surging over time, i have most respect for linux and linux users, 100% the issues remains allot of users just don't know or its not intuitive for them to unleash the platforms full potential,

100% should been done yesterday!

@Reciever linux is not fun on a laptop its also not fun for desktops, it can be made tolerable but that doesn't make it user friendly, its designed to be a server not a personal station (unless you like to inflict pain on yourself), if you need to hone your Linux skills just side load any Linux flavor you like with WSL https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install its essentially windows native hypervisor you can run any systems you like side by side with windows as if it was a virtual container but its not a virtual container its just the ease of deployment and manageability is similar! it has full standalone dedicated hardware access not shared, while running side by side with windows,

@ryan you are derailing the thread to network and security topics, next post better be a bench with +9k or they will change the topic title 😅

i am aware, that is "same broadcast domain" as mentioned above 😉 for that to happen you had to execute malware locally first! (that packet cannot traverse anywhere beyond your logical broadcast domain which is essentially your local network wire connected to the same physical switch, unless you're physically in a hostile environment none of this matters when you're home behind your routers firewall and a nat environment)

that can only happen if one compromises the access point, physical wire, or if one is on the same broadcast domain of its victim! someone attacking or distributing malware on the same broadcast domain can be located in minutes, since TAZ days there's been allot of progress, data providers cannot afford to be hacked now days, firmware updated to address many of these holes, its very hard now days to find a new tcpip exploits that are untraceable or do not have a pre-recorded signature pattern,

that is correct expose no service there will be no open ends to attack, the rest is common sense just like when someone catches something you don't go near him until he is cured, you know better today not to repeat these steps, im sure you had your firewall and defender on when you got infected before regardless, downloading something or executing infected exe with malware on your own is not hacking, that's just not smart putting it politely, its ok to make small mistakes, we learn and improve from them every day, its like two sides of a coin.