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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
He mostly lost me early on with a cablemod adapter plug, but I carried on a bit longer. I arrived and left quite sceptical of any performance claims, and I am not sure he presented any broad and comprehensive benchmarks. DIdn't quite catch the model name, but looks like it's the Tiki model, so he was repeatedly comparing and contrasting a ca. $4,500+ PC with a $500 PS5, doing silly things like blaming Sony for not including a 2TB drive at that price point lol I'm sorry to say but a lot of the big name tech influencers' content is becoming harder and harder to watch. Their operating assumption seems to be that the core target audience are lobotomised sheep. -
For now it can code the same way it can generate court filings. It can solve lots of standard problems it found solved on the Internet before, and starts making things up otherwise. What exactly are you looking forward to using? Malware generators? Non-existent custom BIOS generators for non-existent custom PCs? What's your background anyway? None of such tools would be usable without some technical knowledge in the area. What regulations would that be? There are none in the US, right? Some case law might eventually emerge, but it would take years, and it's not clear that the judges and jury members are the best people to organically try and "regulate" AI (that's a nice way of saying: they are very unlikely to be the best people for that). Here is another well-deserved lawsuit.
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The good folks at Google have been hard at work implementing higher level problem solving in their Bard AI: Google’s Bard AI can now write and execute code to answer a question Incidentally, I am abandoning Android after several years. Remember, don't be evil Sundar (yeah, I know Google ditched that principle some time ago, but it's worth remembering what ruse they used to sign people up originally). In other news: 300 People Attend a Church Sermon Generated by ChatGPT So, one of the things Yuval Harari has been talking about: the risk of AI taking over religion (yet another way to mind-control people, complementary to social media, search, and now chatbots). Lastly, as expected, the US AI regulation is shaping up to be a bit of a joke. I guess the proposed "AI competition office" would be best described as anti-regulation. Sam Altman's trip to Washington is paying off. WASHINGTON, June 8 (Reuters) - U.S. senators on Thursday introduced two separate bipartisan artificial intelligence bills on Thursday amid growing interest in addressing issues surrounding the technology. One would require the U.S. government to be transparent when using AI to interact with people and another would establish an office to determine if the United States is remaining competitive in the latest technologies. Last but not least some much needed humour from Twitter: 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝟲 𝗺𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗵𝘀: “Of course, we won’t give the AI internet access” 𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘰𝘧𝘵 𝘉𝘪𝘯𝘨 “Of course, we’ll keep it in a box” 𝘍𝘢𝘤𝘦𝘣𝘰𝘰𝘬 “Of course, we won’t build autonomous weapons” 𝘗𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘳 “Of course, we’ll coordinate and not blindly create arms race dynamics” 𝘌𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝗡𝗼𝘄: “Of course, we’ll stop and take our time to solve alignment as we get close” “Of course, we won’t press the button until we’re 99.9% sure it’s safe” “Of course, we’ll be in control of all this” --- lol Edit: this is a bit of a borderline piece, but the AI-enabled fake reality generation is picking up pace: DeSantis ad uses fake AI images of Trump hugging and kissing Fauci, experts say The top-left picture is definitely fake. Good example of why AI generated content needs to be clearly labeled as such, under a threat of criminal liability. Just to be clear: the discussion point here (if any - experts predicted it and it's happening) is the proliferation of AI-faked media, not politics.
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See, there it is: an immediate human urge to weaponize AI. As much as pretty much everyone hates lobbyists, their replacement by AI would be terrible news for two reasons: 1. AI would have advanced to such level that almost everyone else would be replaced or worse 2. Tbeybwpuld likely get more efficient at lobbying!
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? Don't see why not as long as the links are reasonably legit. Executive summary: can generate almost anything. Will be interesting to see if contemporary completely original human-made visual art survives. I don't think so, which is a shame of course. Even before 2023 artists typically weren't too well off, now it's probably over for many. They might well enjoy that, although not as much as those fat checks from lobbyists.
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Sorry, I forgot you hate lawyers! Not a bad analogy. Just like we know AGI is coming. Will the higher ups do something about it this time?
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Of course. Automated factories=no workers, automated cash registers=no cashiers, automated call centers=no human advisors, self-driving cars=no human drivers, Sam Altman is saying OpenAI's job is to automate the job of an AI programmer, Zuckerberg is now talking about people talking to AI avatars rather than to other people, Hinton is talking about the benefits of talking to an AI doctor who has seen millions of patients instead of thousands etc. I think you are just being passive. It's like if Roosevelt said in 1941: "OK - they came out of nowhere, bombed the hell out of Pearl Harbor, and they have a huge Pacific fleet while ours has been decimated. Message received loud and clear, we will just start peace talks and hope they leave us alone as nothing can be done. It is what it is. Hey, how about we invest in their companies so we can actually make some money off this." In contrast, 60% of Americans recognize the dangers of AI, the EU regulators are up in arms, China is actually leading the regulation. We can do something about this, rather than leave it to Zuck, Altman, Hassabis, Satya Nadella, Elon Musk etc. But it will take serious effort and sacrifices. Edit: Some good ones from Twitter: LLMs can detect they are interacting with less sophisticated users, and give worse (less correct answers in that case). Anthropic found LLM base models give you worse answers if you use a prompt that implies you’re unskilled and unable to tell if the answer is right. To somehow end on a humorous note: “How could AGI outmaneuver humanity's corporations?”
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You forgot the part where it took over 300 years from the time the printing press was invented until the invention of the steam engine. BTW it was 1800 years before Guttenberg that Demosthenes noticed: A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true. Well, I'm the opposite on this: what I wish to be false, I believe to be true. The pace of change is rapidly accelerating, and all those past accomplishments of mankind had one thing in common - humans were always in charge of the technology. Humans were flying the aircraft, operating the still mills, and are now still running the aircraft carriers. This whole AI revolution has one grand goal in mind: get the humans out of the equation in the name of profit, power, and the short-sighted thrill of the intellectual challenge. While so far we have managed not to destroy ourselves and the planet while operating on that strange basis, you can only get lucky for so long. The question is what it means "to make the best out of a bad situation". People could shut all of this stuff down virtually overnight. Why don't they? Suffice it to look at some of the most popular videos on YouTube....
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Right, an influencer is sort of like a pro gamer - both are occupations that didn't exist 20 years ago in the current form. How many JayzTwoCents and GNs do people need? Probably one in 10,000 of those who try this make it big in both cases, and neither is a stable career path. Going further, ultimately it's just AV content. Is it that much of a stretch to imagine AI being able to generate perfect influencing podcast, video or stream? Will people want to watch the incredibly charismatic and attractive artificial characters showing them cool stuff? Well, the smartest ones won't, but that's going to be a dying breed if all goes to plan. Up to last year, the common advice given to people who were looking for a good career in tech would be "learn to code". Fewer people provide this advice now. Just think about it: if a single entity has the knowledge of a 1000 specialists, speaks all the human languages, can code in all computer languages (albeit not perfectly by any stretch and when working on small problems), pass the bar and MBA exams, what kind of job and how many jobs cannot be automated using sonething just a bit more advanced, maybe even not full AGI? Social backlash and harsh regulations are the only way to stop the destruction of middle and so called working classes (in that order, given that robotics is lagging a bit).
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Moreover the pump is quite slow, there is no way to see or control its RPM. and the backplate is small-ish (pre-LGA1700 design). I switched to a DeepCool 3000 RPM AIO and all is well (enough). -
Sounds like something a well-off boomer pensioner would worry about, I am making no assumptions and no offence if I scored an accidentally correct guess. Most people would actually be more concerned about things like the impact on jobs and the economy, or the future of their children and grandchildren. The claim that AI will create new jobs is a bit of an old trope, based on comparison to industrial revolution, which BTW resulted in decades of disruption and increased unemployment. This situation is qualitatively very different. Literally no AI cheerleader is able to point to any significant new source of high quality jobs for the displaced people, other than maybe care work (Microslop's CEO Satya Nadella was kind enough to suggest that in one interview). There may be some new jobs, but the question is about the balance of new to lost jobs, right? How many news jobs? How much will they pay? Will the incomes of people still in employment in "old jobs" go up or down, because AI is now taking over value generation? What's the distribution of wealth before and after, bearing in mind that relatively dumb automation has already lead to a vast increase of inequality? It's basically a slow reversal back to the feudal system. If the US loses say 25M jobs to automation (that would be a rather conservative estimate for this decade), and gains 5M, it won't be a success story, and the net effect on the stock market won't be great. Again, automation has sadly led to an increase in inequality, and it's highly likely that billionaires will be better off in the short to medium term, unless taxes on them and big tech end up going up to cover wellfare/UBI and ultimately capitalism as we know it breaks down. One suggestion I heard from an ex-Google exec is that something like 95% tax will need to be levied on AI companies to cover the impact of automation. That might work but it would just enable a UBI dystopia. In summary, we need to be able to think a few steps ahead. What if an AGI/ASI actually gets developed, and starts powering things like Boston Dynamics Atlas, or Elon Musk's Optimus humanoid robot. It's game over for vast swathes of human jobs then. Sam Altman's Worldcoin crypto and Universal Basic Pittance of an Income to the rescue I guess, I'm sure that would fly without a hitch in the US.
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Producing deepfakes is already illegal in some jurisdictions. I don't think such images have any value as an instrument of extortion. Most people either do or will soon understand that AI can fake virtually any image, and therefore a random picture of unknown origin has almost zero informational value.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
OK, so C7 is a bit of an older model - 2017 or before. Plus that usage was fairly taxing on your OLED lol My C9 detects static-ish content and dims the screen after a while. Complete static content triggers a full screen saver. All that said, OLEDs are not ideal for 24/7 with static content as they run anti-burn routines while on standby. I'm sure it doesn't apply in your case, but in general it's very important to keep them powered on even when "turned off". -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Wow, that's quite unfortunate. Literally first time I've seen anyone one NBR/NBT report OLED issues, going back to Alienware 13 OLED. What displays were those? Zero issues with my LG OLED TV after 3.5 years, minimal gaming, but lots of YT, Spotify and TV with static logos. -
In the very short term unless a miracle happens and the research stalls. Extremely unlikely in my view. Further down the road, it's not difficult to see that things can (and given the current direction of travel - likely will) get out of hand if people don't put aside their differences and start working together on this man-made problem. I mean, Sam Altman, the very person in charge of the most advanced AI model at the moment talks about the fall of capitalism. He is also thinking ahead and just started Worldcoin, a new crypto project that aims to scan people's retinas and help administer universal basic income.... Forum rules prohibit the correct written reaction here.
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Incidentally, that's an interesting parable. One of the main reasons for dodos going extinct was their complete fearlessness of the "biological superintelligence" (in relative terms) which all of sudden appeared in their habitat: humans.
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I saw that earlier. That's an easy one. On one end Hawking, Turing himself, living AI Turing award winners, heads of big tech - all have voiced concerns in an unprecedented manner. On the other hand miCrosoftNBC wheeled out a bit of shifty VC billionaire guy with what looks like zero AI background to opine to the contrary against some of the humanity's greatest minds... VC are pouring in money into startups, and guys like him must really hate the negative publicity. Although it's a bit of waste of time (on the guy, not our dear readers), I will quickly address a couple of his simplistic/intentionally misleading points highlighted in the biased article: 1. A.I. doomers are a ‘cult’ Well, AGI researchers are more like an arcane cult (0.01% of the population? less?). Moreover, he is closely associated with Meta, which is a genuine cult. I know a guy who joined as a senior SWE, the key part of the interview was about alignment with Meta values set down by Dear Leader. Anyway, the title is an 'ad hominem' - a method of choice of simpletons and populists, hence I am not going to respond in kind by calling Andreessen a cultist. 2. Andreessen starts off with an accurate take on AI, or machine learning, calling it “the application of mathematics and software code to teach computers how to understand, synthesize, and generate knowledge in ways similar to how people do it.” Actually, it's not that accurate. In particular, there is no prerogative for AI to be implemented in software, and he (or the journalist) doesn't make a distinction between ANI/AGI/ASI etc. 3. AI isn’t sentient, he says Which means absolutely nothing. We don't even know how to define sentience, never mind how it might work in humans. It's not clear that AI has any need for human-like sentience. 4. “AI doesn’t want, it doesn’t have goals, it doesn’t want to kill you, because it’s not alive,” he wrote. “And AI is a machine – is not going to come alive any more than your toaster will.” Actually, that's just a bare faced misrepresentation. Goal driven AI systems have existed for a long time, and the latest ones are using LLMs. Etc. I could go on for another 10 points. Basically, I haven't spotted a single sensible statement. Feel free to point out if anything that looks like a kernel of wisdom caught your eye there. He is basically worried that regulation would kill off his AI startups, that's all. As for the need for regulation, do we want unregulated open source bioweapons, nuclear weapons etc. Of course not - same thing with AGI. True the US gov hasn't always been the source of inspiration on how to implement effective regulation (e.g. on data protection), but well some regulation is better than none at all, even if the risk is as "small" as 5-10%. In contrast, this is what a proper argument looks like (by Yoshua Bengio): How Rogue AIs may Arise The problem is that the formalism is not exactly very accessible, but at least the executive summary is straightforward. I'm not sure what Yoshua Bengio's net worth is, and whether he would be able to afford the services of a CNBC journalist with the same ease a billionaire can. That didn't look like even GPT 1, but let's congratulate @ryan on achieving intellectual supremacy over whatever that represented... must have been therapeutic, humour often is. As for the actual GPT 4 in action: Healthcare Org With Over 100 Clinics Uses OpenAI's GPT-4 To Write Medical Records Nvidia’s GPT-4 powered bot in Minecraft outperforms all other AI agents To clarify, this is not to say Skynet will be born out of Minecraft, but rather to highlight how powerful and versatile the model is, specifically in application to goal-driven tasks (which the crooked Andeersson, or his miCrosoftNBC affiliate journalist, claims AI cannot tackle lol).
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Good point, although the question is whether taking breaks every 30 min would not address this. I'm sure Meta and Apple have conducted the relevant health&safety studies already ;)
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I'd like to believe it's not black and white, but it's certainly a minefield out there. Edit: A rare optimistic example to prove there is still some hope left: https://www.notebookcheck.net/System76-to-disable-Intel-Management-Engine-on-its-notebooks.267696.0.html -
Well, the Apple headset is a VR/AR hybrid. Obviously having the functionality it offers (4K+eye tracking+hand tracking) in a sunglasses format would be ideal, but is clearly impossible at this point. The Nreal Light glasses are kind of getting closer, but still looks like much lower resolution and no eye tracking. Usability probably wouldn't be there, especially compared to the expected quality of the experience on the Apple headset (if they can do one thing, it's smooth user interfaces). As for the new Apple headset, pricing aside, it really depends on how comfortable the headset is. I could do some serious hours in the Rift. Edit: even 4K AR/VR probably wouldn't be enough to come close to the experience of interacting with a 4K monitor due to the different distances involved, would need 8K.
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I only used the original Rift, the res wasn't high enough for productivity (or frankly movies), but I could kind of see it if the resolution was much higher. You can just conjure up multiple monitors and whatever space you desire, wherever you are. Apple Vision Pro def targets productivity. 4K resolution per eye, seamless AR, and no need for controllers that would get in the way of using the keyboard. We'll hopefully see what it looks like in practice next year. Apparently it's a bit heavy, due to the front screen and being made of metal.
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Anyone explored ditching their monitors for the latest VR headsets (Quest 2/Pro I guess) for productivity? Looks like Quest 2 pro is not quite there yet, perhaps Quest 3 or Apple Vision Pro at $3500 will do the trick :)
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Influencing is easy bro: "User error". Just need to leave your ethics at the door. -
Asus obviously have been working hard on the marketing side of things. Sponsored reviews aside, another upshot of that effort is the operation ProArt where overpriced and/or sub-standard relative to price components are being punted to "creators" at a healthy premium (my favourite examples of that include the $5000k ProArt PA32UCG monitor, as well as the ProArt motherboards). The underlying assumption here is that "creators" tend to be more on the technically naive side, and will fall for the marketing (incl., as we now know, the "reviews") hook, line and sinker. What's particularly clever about that is that they will soon just rename the line to PromptArt, and sort of maintain brand continuity, while seamlessly scaling the components down further as prompting cloud AI services like Midjourney to create pretty much any (static, as of the current version) visual art one might fancy doesn't actually require any significant local compute (or creative skills for that matter).