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52 minutes ago, ryan said:
ok. its settled. A770 + used i9. its funny how you guys go into depth on ram and motherboards ect, in the laptop space thats basically non exisitant these days, you don't pick your motherboard or PSU ect heck even cpus are hard wired along with dying mxm. Im nervous that i'll get it and It wont be as fast as I expect, but when I watch your videos and videos on youtube its exciting seeing framerates around 200fps at 4k ultra on some titles I play, a 4090-4070 can be such a big jump from the 3060 its actaully hard to believe its only been 3 years
Buy whatever float your boat. But avoid any of the gaming-books. A desktop build can in most instances being upgraded.
RAIJINTEK Arcadia III Mid-Tower in the test – This is how a budget case under 40 euros works!
PS. €40 is equal to $43.80 USD. New PC builds doesn't need to cost a fortune.
1 hour ago, ryan said:haha BRO. I will most likely sell or dare i say take my laptop back and just get a 4070 but with the supers coming out soon it seems like a good idea too get a 3060ti as a start then just sell it off at a loss.
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16 minutes ago, ryan said:
I was thinking of just getting a 4090 and hanging on to it for a few years and then just do an upgrade in 2026 when more games are out that need the power, but im sure by then 8k gaming will be in swing. im still leaning into a A770 and getting a desk with a OLED monitor/tv. would be more enjoyable visually and I can afford it if I take back my VIVOBOOK.
basically options are
2) no gpu best setup
3) A770 and i7 or used i9 with oled monitor
4) 3060ti and i9 sell and buy a 4090
5) save
I don't see 8K gaming will be a thing for now or near future. 4090's will be pushed down to 1440P gaming and Nvidia will push out new cards for 4K with the 5090. You don't kill your milking cow. Going down from 8K to 4K is something Nvidia wouldn't like. They don't want that you can keep your card until it's EOL with 4K gaming. Being pushed down from 4K to 1440P would help more on upselling new cards.
Nice sum up from arstechnica.2023 was the year that GPUs stood still
A new GPU generation did very little to change the speed you get for your money.
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8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
I will probably put the package up for sale in the Marketplace later today or tomorrow. I don't want to sell things piecemeal.
4 hours ago, cylix said:Even better sell 2 turdbooks from your collection and get a 4070ti super or maybe a used 4080 😃
Yup. And and there will be more options to go for after nvidia have put out the Super cards. Both in the used market as well from retail/system builders.
Isn't this disgusting? They (OEM/Nvidia) use the TDP/TGP as upgrade paths for the Jokebooks nowadays. In my world... This is pure scam. Pure evil. Or better say pure greed.
nvidia could offer a refreshed 4090 mobile with more Cuda cores, but those maxed out AD103 chips will go into 4080 Super. Or AI cards for the Chineese. But I expect the laptop gamer jockey's don't see the difference anyway. As long its brand new.... Have to be better than previous 4090 Jokebook mod3l🤯
MSI TITAN 18 HX RTX 4090/4080 gaming laptop comes with 270W mode and 400W power supply
The most interesting detail that was just revealed is the new 270W TDP mode for combined CPU and GPU power. In contrast to the previous TITAN’s 250W mode, this upgrade implies a 175W TGP for the graphics and a 95W boost for the CPU, a significant 40W increase from the default TDP. Importantly, this remains within the MTP (Maximum Turbo Power) limits set by Intel at 157W.
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6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
Damn close, that cd cover🙂 Blond as a viking female from Norway. The beauty come from the cold North😉
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2 hours ago, ryan said:
ha, yeah ah the ram is kinda glued in with metal lol. its the typical trash they push. not enough storage, 8gb ram, i5, heating issues, plagued wth bloat and custom bioses that force reinstall of bloat. I didn't get it for free, well technically everything is free for me but I spent the free money. its an ok laptop, good screen, decent battery life it has a backlit keyboard and its fairly light. it just needs 16gb of ram and a 2tb ssd. its mainly going to be used for geforce now. audio editing and casual youtube, basically going to be unused most of the time but it was cheap, 500usd. I will play a few hours of chess and then pool(2d) and be done for the day....rest of time its just music.
Hmmm. Swap out that letter for the Jokebook😀 $500 usd is a lot money. Even if you say it's free money. Yup, return to sender🙂
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16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
For now. Until they remove the option and force their ugly disgusting trash on all users. The alternatives also suck, in some ways just as much, but we should use them instead just because they are not from the woke idiot Alphabet A$$hats.
I forgot this one below. Why can't you be allowed to handle this by yourself in the settings?
As far as privacy is concerned, it is unclear how often Safety Check runs and how often Chrome reports back to the mothership. There is no option to turn this off.
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2 hours ago, ryan said:
I have a new as you guys call it a jokebook. it is pretty awesome for what it is. i5 12500h is a bit on the slow side and it only has 8gb ram...should i buy a 32gb stick for 8+32gb. or is that pointless on a ultrabook
im getting 9700 in cloudgate which seems low but thats not plugged in. also its asus so its a nightmare trying to install a fresh version of windows it keeps wanting to load the cloud version and its hardwired into the bios much like the asus keyboard i have, installs a ton of crap ware. suprised no one online is saying anything about it, no resistance then no change.
Hmm. You got it for free ... The Papusan way? Maybe see if you can find cheap 2x16GB kit. Then scrap the 8GB stick.
1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:Sounds like a good explanation to me of why we call them "jokebooks" and "turdbooks" LOL. I bet you can hardly wait to get a desktop and put that crippled nonsense behind you. I'm curious why you bought that. Or, was it a Christmas gift?
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Why change it only for the change? Some have discovered that the grass ain't so green on the other side. And some don't want to be tricked by Stupids that tells you that "newer has to be better". Yep, there is still hope for the humanity @Mr. Fox
Windows 10 holds strong: nearly 7 out of 10 desktops still powered by the older OS
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Is newer always better bro @ryan @Mr. Fox @Rage Set? Why make own products more and more ugly? For the attention it create?
I hate Chrome browser's new design with a burning passion. Here's how to revert to the classic one.
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18 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
Would you trade this for a Ryzen X3D setup @Papusan?
Hmmm
Edit. We can continue talk about HELL NO.
Nice winter weather here home. Already 11 minus and strong icecold wind that makes the temperature feels more like minus 20. And it gets worse. Much worse. I expect from 25-35C minus outside Papusan's plaza in the coming days. Then you have the wind on top. Yup, nice being stuck in the cold North. Once the cold is finished then we are back to rain and windy days again. Then it will switch over again. Oh'gosh I hate it.
It gets worse - then comes the Siberian monster
Snow and strong winds have ravaged Southern Norway in particular. When the low pressure is over - the monster cold comes from Siberia.In some parts longer up in north of Norway we may even see temps colder than minus 40. Pair that with fresh blowing wind and you will really feel your alive.
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59 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:
I'm not really too knowledgeable on power supplies, but I've heard good things from Corsair's RM series. I'm also a bit bias towards those PSUs as I installed an RM750e for a buddy recently and had an easy time working with it. If any of you guys have had good experiences with Corsair or other brands, let me know.
I try to get the most value I can out of everything, and even though I have spent a lot of time scoping this build out, I'm still unsure about certain parts. Not knowing everything about everything wigs me out a bit, so any input and experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!Hi. Desktop build is the only way forwards. Regarding AMD I can't help much. I prefer Intel systems. In same way as I prefer Nvidia over AMD. But for the PSU.... See if you can find a cheap second gen Corsair HX1500i (2022) or the newer refreshed HX1500i with Atx 3.0 specs (only ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 certified). Both is very good options as Corsair still haven't implemented 12VHPWR connectors on the PSU panel. Which is a good thing. Buy the one you get at best price.
PC Part Disaster: Disappointment PC Build 2023 (Worst Parts of the Year). As long new is always
betternewer it will sell regardless. All too much new tech have almost no value (in short... trash) or is just overpriced vs the offered performance.-
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On 12/31/2023 at 12:02 AM, Mr. Fox said:
It is a shame so many of the DDR5 kits being sold are garbage.
Yup, and the trend run in a pace we have never seen before.
Kingston Fury Renegade RGB DDR5-7200 48GB Dual-Channel Memory Kit Review tweaktown.com
Final ThoughtsA lot of their R&D money went into styling, which is obvious. Mixing matte black with brushed aluminum, machined FURY in the center, and brutish angles all over, even found in the diffuser, all come together to make an aesthetically pleasing presentation
For what RAM is intended, performance comes first for us, and the Fury Renegade RGB does not deliver as expected when scaled against other slower kits.-
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On a tight budget? Steam has tons of great games on sale for $5
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8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
ally... someone with clout is willing to call it for what it is. 12VHPWR is trash. He is saying exactly what I have said dozens of times. Sheesh. And, good technical info. Three legacy 8-pin power connectors would provide more than adequate power delivery, with room to spare. It was more than enough for feeding 1000W to the 3090 K|NGP|N. Very damning for the stupid idiots responsible for deploying it. The solution is to move back to 3x 8-pin or dual 12VHPWR like the Galax HOF 4090. Anything less is at risk of failure.
Main problem... Cheapo PSUs that only offer 150W from their 8-pin power connectors. They use cheapo parts and cables with wire gauge at 18 or even 20. Hence Nvidia offered the 4x8pin to 12VHPWR power connector to be sure even trash PSUs could be used with their flagship cards. Nvidia would never ever designed new cards with 4x 8pin power connectors. Only Galax made it correct with the 4090 HOF. But rest of their 4090 SKUs only got same single 12+4 pin connector.
Nvidia could also re-design the power delivery so the card could use more power from the PCIe slot. 4090s don't make much use of the power from that slot. Nvidia prefer to let the cards have all power from the slimy thin new modern 4+12 mini connector.
Add more failure points to already weak design and you have the complete disaster. This will hunt Cablemod years forwards. A real damage to the brand. Thanks to nvidia want slimmer PCBs for the whole range of graphics cards. And one connector fits all is cheaper than use up to 4x 8pin connectors/terminals.
u/GladGeologist4311 - 17 minutes agoOnce people have bought adapers they won't check if they are safe to use...Edit. What I'm afraid of.... Nvidia will be more restrictive with max TGP with next gen cards. This way they can offer higher safety margins for the 12+4 pin power connector/cables. Because they know people often go very cheapo on other hardware. Can also add in.... The next gen cards will probably be deigned smaller so people with mini-boxes can use the big boy cards. We see this already now with the release of the slim version cards.And the slimy Apple trend continue. And the quality follow same paths... 3 out of 5 stars is all too much. But sadly it will still sell as hot chocolate in a cold day if it fits into your filthy tiny trash box. Trash will make place for more trash if you understand what I mean.... "Garbage breed life into more garbage".Newer drive technology and the proliferation of devices that take smaller SSDs means that we will see more options in the future.-
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On 12/31/2023 at 12:02 AM, Mr. Fox said:
This second G.SKILL 8000 kit seems every bit as good as the first one in the other Apex. It worked great in the Z690 Dark as well. It is a shame so many of the DDR5 kits being sold are garbage.
Interesting. Binning memory ICs.
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On 12/30/2023 at 11:16 PM, Papusan said:
The stupids at Asus engineering team thought it was much better with an 8-pin instead for the 6-pin power connector for the board. And they offered same stupididity when they removed the Gen_5 PCIe add in board for the new useless M.2 Gen 5 slot right below the CPU.
I have no need for the M.2_1 slot. Useless. Give back the Add in board if I want to steal PCIe lines from the GPU.
* M.2_1 shares bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5)_2 and PCIEX16(G5)_1. When M.2_1 is occupied with SSD device, PCIEX16(G5)_2 will be disabled and PCIEX16(G5)_1 will run x8 only.
** USB Type-C® power delivery output: 5/9/15/20V max. 3A, PPS:3.3–21V max. 3A
16 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:The Gestapo is trying very hard to cram the new filth up our butts instead of letting us make our own decisions. ASUS is drinking their urine-flavored Kool-Aid.
Yup, we are forced on filthy because engineers think Unisex system is good. And the same happens also with modern processors nowadys. Because Jokebooks is their main cash-grab.
You know M.2 SSDs suck, right?
M.2's elevation
For some bono-headed reason, somebody decided that attaching an SSD directly to the motherboard was the best path forward. M.2 rapidly became the most widely adopted connection and to this day, almost every performance-based consumer SSD is a 2280 form factor NVMe M.2 drive.
The whole world is filled with STUPIDITY
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14 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
The menus are different and the F-key boot options at POST are also different on the Encore versus the original Apex. Not sure what is up with that. If you are wanting CSM for Windows 7, I will send you a link a utility that will allow you to run in pure UEFI with Adjustable Bar working. I installed Windows 7 using it no problem. Now I just need to buy an older GPU that has driver support. (I mentioned this in replyto Suzuki in the Apex thread at HWBOT. Worked perfectly.)
Edit: check your email. I just sent it.
The Gestapo is trying very hard to cram the new filth up our butts instead of letting us make our own decisions. ASUS is drinking their urine-flavored Kool-Aid.
Thank you very much my friend 🙂
For you and all my friends on Notebooktalk.....
I really hope 2024 will be a much better year than the year we now go out from. 2023 was a Annus horribilis for us here home so I really hope 2024 will be our annus mirabilis. Happy New Year!! 🙂
From Papusan's plaza🙂
Overclocker League (Enhusiasts) 2023.
5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:A couple of observations. This G.SKILL kit was white. The white color is low quality paint. The lacquer thinner used to dissolve the adhesives started stripping the paint. This has never happened with black so they must have used a very poor quality paint. Acrylic and Polyurethane enamels are not harmed by lacquer thinner. Second observation... appears they are binning these modules. There are handwritten markings on an IC on each module similar to what I saw on the 3090 KPE, which EVGA confirmed are from binning.
Yet another reason to avoid fancy and modern White color themed hardware. If they can't make it right... Maybe stop make/design products the "Dell Alienware" way.
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1 hour ago, ryan said:
of course im number 1. no doubt that im tops with team weggs. you have alot to learn grasshopper
LOOL. I'm not even close to match you my friend🙂 https://hwbot.org/user/papusan/
@Mr. Fox It seems CSM support is bugged in 0080. Not sure whats up. It randomly being disabled.
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3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
I did not realize I was going to lose 4 SATA ports. I had 8 on the Dark. So, now I am short four 1TB drives, so that kind of sucks. I don't know why this has only four SATA ports. Im glad I have six NVMe drives installed or the missing SATA ports would be an issue. It still kind of is, but I'll get over it in a day or two, LOL.
The stupids at Asus engineering team thought it was much better with an 8-pin instead for the 6-pin power connector for the board. Hence they removed 2 SATA ports to be able to have enough space on the board to provide more power for USB-C Storage. They mean desktops should have same features as Jokebooks "on the go". And they offered same stupididity when they removed the Gen_5 PCIe add in board for the new useless M.2 Gen 5 slot right below the CPU. Yup, they mean OC/gamer boards should only use 8-PCIe lines for the GPU.
I have no need for the M.2_1 slot. Useless. Give back the Add in board if I want to steal PCIe lines from the GPU.
* M.2_1 shares bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5)_2 and PCIEX16(G5)_1. When M.2_1 is occupied with SSD device, PCIEX16(G5)_2 will be disabled and PCIEX16(G5)_1 will run x8 only.
** USB Type-C® power delivery output: 5/9/15/20V max. 3A, PPS:3.3–21V max. 3A
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Yup. Voltage control work with GPUTweakll with newer nvidia drivers. MSI Afterburner.... Nope. But if I add voltage first with the Asus tool, then I can see the voltage slider in Msi Afterburner being maxed out. Nice. And the stupids at Nvidia still haven't fixed the locked down voltage for Maxwell graphics cards. When will they do the same for Pascal and Turing? When Blackwell is out? Hmmm.
GTX 960 @ryan do you know what the Norwegian word Gull meaning in English?😀
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On 11/17/2023 at 12:41 AM, Papusan said:
Here is more pictures for the pict jockey @electrosoft😀 Say hello to the MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING 100ME (Limited Edition) for my GPU collection. Fancy Green and I mean it have Samsung vram. I paid 200,- or $18.29 USD for this limited beauty so not a huge loss if it fails. And the card have still the void sticker on one of the screws so it probably need a re-paste. The nice part, this card come with a backplate opposite to the more vanilla (MSI) GTX 960 cards. Fantastic that MSI could afford that.
Here's the thing... I always try go the cheapo route if I can. No in Hell I would pay $150 USD as this stupid want for his 8 years old green goblin Edition on ebay. So no difference than with newer cards. No in hell I would paid I cent above $700 for Nvidia's $1199 4080 Scam.
Edit. Yup, never re-pasted. Same old dryed out stamp as most of the OEM prefer to use. And no thermal pads for the vram. Can't be cheaper doing it this way....
Finally had the time to take a look on the MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING 100ME (Limited Edition). Not a bad sample. Asic 80.8% and +295 on the cores in GPUPI without touching the voltage. And Samsung vram. Yup, not bad.
GTX 960 GPUPI - 3.2
https://hwbot.org/submission/5440347_papusan_gpupi___1b_geforce_gtx_960_40sec_350ms?recalculate=true
GTX 960 GPUPI - v3.3
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1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:
I have not installed it yet so I do not know what version it has. The decal on the box show a manufacture date of November 2023.
From every new patch note.... "Improved system performance". I can't grasp why etc Safedisk didn't want to explain what's improved in every new bios versions they throw out. So completely avoiding the topic. Oh'well, it's Asus and they don't want to tell more than needed (same with other OEMs). Maybe Intel also have something to say if Asus go own ways. Only those working closely with this brand (the elite and their friends) will have all this info.
On 12/26/2023 at 10:56 PM, Papusan said:The 4TB WD_Black SN850X Gen4 NVMe SSD, with read speeds of up to 7,300 MB percent and with Microsoft's DirectStorage support, is discounted at Amazon at its all-time low price of just $229.95.
Here home... Cheapo $372.40 USD. Or +140$ above.
I'm not sure you'll get the WD_Black so much cheaper....
SSD prices predicted to skyrocket throughout 2024
And the price hike will apply most of new tech. $664.39 for Core i9-14900. Hmmm, no thanks. The trend goes the wrong way.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
in Desktop Hardware
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@Mr. Fox what bios version and ME did you land on for the Encore? Look at this beauty. I switced to bios chip 2 with the realease bios 0220. Nice feature.
Edit. See also The big improvement on Encore bios 0070 and 0071 doesn't apply to most of us. Nice. Make beta firmware that match the LN2 needs.
TEAM T-Force Xtreme Narvic Black DDR5-8200 48GB Dual-Channel Memory Kit Review tweaktown.com
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10621/team-force-xtreme-narvic-black-ddr5-8200-48gb-dual-channel-memory-kit/index.html